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Posted May 18, 2013
I don't want Nintendo to die but I would like to see their software available on other platforms. Nintendo hasn't produced an appealing console to me since the SNES. :(
Posted May 18, 2013
Nope.

Keep Nintendo games on Nintendo hardware.

I don't care if you don't want to buy another piece of hardware to play Mario if you want to play Mario then you have to buy Mario's machine.

I'd rather see them take all their IPs to the grave then sell them off to other companies and seeing as how there hasn't been a good Sonic game since Sega went the software route I'd rather they not "pull a Sega" either.

Yeah, I'm a sucker for tradition. Nintendo always seems to pull through, though, so I'm not worried.
Posted May 18, 2013
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Shaolin_sKunk: seeing as how there hasn't been a good Sonic game since Sega went the software route
Not true, there have been quite a few good Sonic games since then.

As for the OP, no I don't want Nintendo to die.
Posted May 18, 2013
Hell no.

I enjoyed many of their products especially the Mario and Legend of Zelda franchises as well as their handhelds and many of their consoles. I enjoyed playing the Nintendo Wii and while I don't see myself buying a 3DS or a WiiU in the near future but I wouldn't sell them if I got them as contest prizes or gifts.

As I get older, I find myself less into video games than ever before so I don't play Nintendo games as much anymore but I would not want to see Nintendo die. I like the idea of three major competitors in the video game console business. I know that some people have some valid arguments for a single standard for video games similar to the single standard for DVD movies or CD players but it also undermines innovation and competition involving innovation.
Posted May 18, 2013
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Shaolin_sKunk: seeing as how there hasn't been a good Sonic game since Sega went the software route I'd rather they not "pull a Sega" either.
Do you have any evidence to support that alleged cause and effect? Seems to me there haven't been any good Mario games since the 1990s either and it would be difficult to pin that one on Sega exiting the hardware market.
Posted May 18, 2013
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Darling_Jimmy: Do you have any evidence to support that alleged cause and effect?
No.
Posted May 18, 2013
No, not in the slightest, and I don't imagine they will. They'd probably become a third-party developer/publisher before that could happen. One would hope that if they did go third-party, they wouldn't be Steam exclusive on PC/Mac/Linux, or entirely exclusive to any given distributor, for that matter. I'd certainly appreciate DRM-free NES, SNES, GB, GBA, and N64 games here on GOG. :)

One thing I worry about with Nintendo going third-party is the possibility of their newer content not having the same quality control or passion behind them. I hope that wouldn't be the case, but you never know...
Posted May 18, 2013
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Shaolin_sKunk: I'd rather see them take all their IPs to the grave then sell them off to other companies and seeing as how there hasn't been a good Sonic game since Sega went the software route I'd rather they not "pull a Sega" either.
You are very wrong there. Colors is good, Generations is the best since Sonic 3, All Star Racing Transformed is the single best mario kart game ever made.
Posted May 18, 2013
I don't want them to give their IPs to other people but I would like it if they stopped making hardware and made their games multiplatform.
Posted May 18, 2013
Not before releasing their entire back catalogue onto Virtual Console and trying reorganization that wasn't headed by a cripplingly old man.
Posted May 19, 2013
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Posted May 19, 2013
Nintendo is the most innovative console company, hardware-wise. For that alone I hope it stays around.
Posted May 19, 2013
No one should have to fork out hundreds of dollars to buy another platform/console just because there's a few exclusive games on it they want. It's nothing but stupid corporate politics which hurts consumers just so a company can have their own bit of closed hardware "turf". Let games and software stand on it's own and be judged on it's own, separate from whatever hardware it's played on, don't obscure it by promoting fanboy-ism and company mascot games (Zelda, Mario, etc). If Zelda or Mario games really are so great, then they would be great enough for anyone to buy/play them, even on PC.

My only position is that games should be universal and played by as many people as want to play them, instead of fragmenting the gaming community into little exclusive clubs based on what device/console you own, which does nothing but hurt consumers and damage gaming as a whole.

There's a heap of console games I would actually buy if they were somehow made available on PC via virtual emulation, or a direct port. Instead they aren't and I find myself having to sail the seven seas to TPB and using an emulator like Dolphin, ePSXe, Higan, etc. So it's these companies that are actively refusing to take my money (and the money of many other PC gamers) just to maintain their silly little hardware turfs.
Posted May 19, 2013
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RayRay13000: Since we're getting into what we would like from Nintendo here's what I would like from them personally:

-Drop region locking completely
-Give their other IPs (Mother, Metroid, F-Zero, etc.) some actual new games
-Or if that's not good enough or possible (for whatever reason) create some new IPs
-Localize certain games worldwide (X (Successor to Xenoblade)) without the need of something similar to Operation Rainfall
-Actually get third parties onto your platforms (no Ninty, we need more than the ones that are still with you like Square and ones that made a contract with you like Platinum)
-Remove hardware tied purchases and replace it with an account based system
-Keep backwards compatibility for future consoles and handhelds
-Actually figure out an online system for multiplayer without the use of Friend Codes or anything similar to that
-Stop the Content ID thing on YouTube

Feel free to add on to that. I like Nintendo and all, but I'm not blind enough to say they're perfect and have no flaws.
-Drop useless figureheads who do nothing for the company.
-Loosen the chokehold that NCL has on other regions.
-Don't make non-management into management. Iwata and Shigeru were just fine where they were before.
-Make your contracts a bit less draconian.
-Consider buying out companies that are clearly attached to you already. (Sega and some second party.)
-Consider dropping out of the stock market.
-You have a massive system to guarantee backwards compatibility and profit. Use the Virtual Console. And don't drip it either.
-Grow with your consumers. Using the Fleeting Demographic can only last for so long if parents don't think that Nintendo games are worth it, since they're the ones paying.
-Grow with your consumers. We aren't children anymore, and you are no longer a new entry to games. Stop treating both like children.
-Grow with your consumers. We wouldn't mind seeing more E10+ and above games, rather than the same 'safe for kiddies and christians' shlock. Live a little!
-Communicate with your consumers. Remember that awesome forum you had? That was better than Miiverse will ever be. Bring it back. You'll get more than the ear.
-Grow with your consumers. Don't hire a man that look like he fell out of the worse part of the 90s management and was raised in New Jersey.
-Don't falsely embrace the west. Speaking slow and broken engrish is cute, but you'd get the point faster in your own language.
-Don't meddle in the affairs of a country you have no idea of the culture of.

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ET3D: Nintendo is the most innovative console company, hardware-wise. For that alone I hope it stays around.
...I'm sorry, I'm afraid I'll have to reattach my bottom, it fell off during a spasm of laughter.

This is the same company embraces the idea of using lateral development, right?
Post edited May 19, 2013 by Darvond
Posted May 19, 2013
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timppu: I don't want them to die, but I want them to become a software company like Sega who releases their iconic games to other platforms too, especially the PC.
True, becoming a sotfware company was certainly good for Sega, just look at all the amazing games they made after the Dreamcast, such as, uhhhh, hmmmm, nevermind.
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timppu: EDIT: Yeah I see others already saying the same, not surprising. Stop using games as a way to push your hardware, push the games themselves instead.
Haven't all console companies been doing the same thing since the Atari? That's unlikely to change as long as consoles exist.

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Psyringe: Like others, I do not _want_ them to die, but I probably wouldn't care that much if they did. I also believe that they've made enough strategical mistakes in the past few years to kind of deserve it.
Stretegical mistakes like making the best selling console and the best selling portable of the last generation? Strategical mistakes like making the DS which is on it's way to be the best selling gaming device of all times?
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HiPhish: Why can't we play the princess again like in Mario 2?
Fun fact: Mario 2 wasn't designed as a Mario game. When the second Mario game was released in Japan, Nintendo thought it was too hard for americans and decided to take a random game and slap the name Mario on it. The japanese Mario 2 is actually known as Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels in the west, and was released as part of the All Stars collection for the SNES.

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silviucc: For F's sake, the PS4 will have the ability to record in-game footage and even stream in-game footage and Nintendo are doing the exact opposite. It's amazing how stupid people get elected in positions that allow them to make such decisions and also sad.
Are we still on that?

Let's make one thing clear, Nintendo hasn't blocked ANYONE from making LP videos, they'll just take the revenue from the ads. Guess what, whoever uses the PS4 share feature will probably not get any money either. Can you see that there's absolutely no difference?

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Ric1987: Not true, there have been quite a few good Sonic games since then.
True, but there's way to deny that Sega isn't as good as it was before. Don't get me wrong, i'm a huge Sonic fan, but Sonic Adventure is still the best 3D Sonic game in my opinion. And where are the great games such as Shenmue, Jet Set Radio, Panzer Dragoon, Shining Force, Phantasy Star?

Sega lost it's "magic" when it abandoned the hardware market.
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