Wauw, that's some cold self assessment.

It was a joke! :D

Yeah, pad out their catalog with decent stuff, a few have mentioned the utter crap that does land on other sites, we don't want that here, I wholeheartedly agree. But the decent stuff that is out there DRM free already would be cool if they could source it and add it to their catalog.

I have stopped using Gamersgate as they do have a nasty habit of releasing unfinished non working games and support is an absolute joke. Greenman Gaming, I buy Steam keys from them only as I HATE their client with a passion but they usually have good deals on new Steam only titles.

Just as a daft example, Greenman Gaming has an Irem Arcade classics compilation which only requires Capsule to download but not run so effectively it is DRM free, it has 18 games on there including Kung Fu Master, Metal Slug, R-Type Leo and the likes. It would be awesome if GOG could get that title and the others that only currently require that client to download, so all they would need to do is change the installer to the GOG one and job done, release it to the masses.

I would love to be able to ditch GG, Desura and the likes and have my games in just 2 places, GOG for classics and the stuff they currently release and Steam for all the new stuff that developers won't budge on the whole DRM thing. Push the bar way up so others can only aspire to what GOG are doing, more titles, more customers, more money, become the one stop place outside Steam for all your gaming needs type of thing.

Another thing that inspired me to post this up which I forgot to mention in the original post, I have seen on numerous occasions over the past few months, when GOG has done a gem promo, later that day if Steam have the same game they will stick it on their daily deal. So it is obvious Valve have noticed what GOG are doing and are trying to counteract in one way or another, thing is though due to the huge user base many will get it on Steam for convenience and taking sales away from GOG.

I honestly don't want this thread to degrade into Steam, DRM etc like I said in first post, I just feel they need to up their game, by a little, not go moving mountains as slow and steady can win the race. GOG do great things and I have a lot of respect for them, I just feel if everyone else is pushing the boat out GOG need to try and follow suit in their own way of course so we still get quality and service and a larger and faster release schedule.

DotEmu already has that collection DRM-free.

I agree that GOG really does need to do some clean up with spam, think a bit about the forum structure, etc. It's the little things that make it seem less professional than other places. And I'd always be happy to have more games here.

That said, I'm willing to take a risk on games on GOG because I know they do testing and are careful with quality. So I can buy an unknown game here and not have to worry much about that, where other DD sites may leave me high and dry. That trust is a big part of what GOG offers, and I'm fine with a slow release schedule if that's necessary for quality releases.

LOL, I didn't realize I "spoke" for so many of you. Glad I do though :)

Actually, because I have a big mouth and have no problem using it (get your mind's out of the gutter :), I'm used to saying my piece and then having half the world come down on me like a ton of bricks. Nice to see this time it didn't.

That's also probably why I like GOG so much, as the vast majority of gamers on here aren't like the ones you find at many other gaming sites -- most of which I tend to avoid as the constant negativity and feeling of entitlement gets me down.


Absolutely agree with you on the downloader. It's about my only gripe with the site. It rarely works for me and, when it does, it will still sometimes only download a partial game, which then cuts out when I start to install it.

I do still use it more often than not as it's faster than a straight Windows download, but I would like to see one out of beta and one that actually works, as they seem to update it several times a week right now but yet it rarely improves. :)

LOL, couldn't have said it better myself.

Overall, I'm a pretty positive person, although I can bitch with the rest of them when I want to, but it's the constant banging on by so many gamers about what they hate about games, developers, publishers, digital download services etc and their massive feelings of entitlement that get me down. Wasn't there even some story about a developer actually getting 'death threats' last week because he made changes in a game? Jesus, people, it's a GAME.

I'm more of the mind, if I don't like a developer, publisher, game, digital download service etc. I'll mention it and why. Then I choose not to spend my money on it, but then move on to more important things as I don't feel like I'm entitled to anything more than a working game for the money I spend and good customer service if I have problems. Other than that, the rest is gravy.

And no, I'm not one of those rah-rah-developers-they-can't-do-wrong kind of people either, as I do expect a decent product for my money. Fan boys are as equally annoying as the complaining bastards :)

Yeah, that was COD Black Ops 2, they balanced a few guns on it and some users started giving death threats on the Twitter feed to the Dev that posted up the change log, then there's the whole thing with Phil Fish presently, few extremists slagging him off and it has put him off completely.

I hate Eurogamer for what you are describing, looking in the comments section there, you have a difference in opinion, even not a huge difference and many in the community down vote your post and have a right pop at you.

I certainly hope you are not referring to me with some of the comments you have made, I am not trying to start any battles with anyone, its just a thought I have and wondered what others thought. I am no fanboy or extremist, I love gaming, classic and new, I clock up many hours as I am 40 year old now and cannot work anymore due to the condition I have, so I lose myself in virtual worlds and enjoy the games. I even still play on my Spectrum, C64, Amiga and Megadrive from my childhood, I looked after my machines!

jamyskis was kind enough to point me to the title I used as an example earlier on Dotemu, that is the type of thing I am talking about. I would love to be able to come to GOG with a game in mind that I have seen wherever DRM Free and buy it from GOG rather having multiple accounts everywhere. I love buying games from GOG as they work, plain and simple and they are a bunch of great guys that care about what they are doing.

Thanks for the info -- I only read the headlines so didn't know which game developer was getting death threats or for what game, and found it so depressing I didn't want to read the articles about it to find out :)

And no, I'm not referring to you AT ALL with some of my comments. Overall, most of the gamers I'm referring to are not even on GOG, as we really don't seem to have that many people like that (The Entitled) on here (Thank God!) And overall, I always think you're a really upbeat and positive person anyway.

In fact, I didn't take this topic you started as a negative topic at all. I just have a strong opinion about GOG, that's all :)

One other thing in favour of GOG's more gradual release schedule is that it gives me time to consider the games. I doubt I would have picked up Cossacks or Gemini Rue or Eador: Genesis on another DD site, where they would be just another release in the tide. But the fact that GOG takes the time to package up each one, and that the forum folks here provide such good commentary on these titles, gives me the tools to find games that otherwise I would have passed by.

This is why I still prefer magazines to blogs and proper encyclopedias to wikis - content that is carefully assembled, managed, and curated trumps a bounty of mediocrity.

I think the 90s releases have largely dried up, and particularly non-RPGs. That's the reason I come here, and no one else offers that, so it's disappointing to see that fade from the marketplace.

Oh yeah GOG, and when purchasing lots of games at the same time during the busiest promo sales, I should be able to trust the purchasing process to work. "Work" meaning that it should _never_ charge me until it is 133% sure that I have the games in my GOG account.

"Do you think GOG need to up their game?"



Absolutely, the forum seems obsolete and somewhat amateurish. A little more feedback regarding the community wish list would also be great.

The prices are fine IMO and the recently offered free game is beyond anything I believed possible. Still, I need more titles, the selection is low to begin with and it's expanding at a too slow pace for me.

I love GOG; it is my DD service of choice and there is a lot of things that they get absolutely right. That said, nobody is perfect and nothing is ever so good that it can't be made even better. So naturally, there are plenty of things that the GOG team could do to improve the service.

I agree that more frequent releases would be nice. However, I do have to add at least two caveats to that:

- While restricting releases too much is a bad thing, so is completely opening the flood gates. Such an approach would result in GOG's catalogue being filled by a ton of junk software and would also make any sort of quality assurance almost impossible. Not only that, such an approach wouldn't be beneficial for the video game developers, since their releases would get quickly buried and potentially wouldn't enjoy any time in the limelight. So some degree of curation is necessary.

- As much as more frequent releases would be great, it's entirely possible that GOG simply doesn't get enough regular releases to increase the rate of regular releases. When it comes to releasing games, consistency is arguably just as important as the actual volume of releases; consistent new releases ensure that customers are always paying attention to the service. So the rate should only be increased if GOG actually gets enough releases to warrant it.

I also agree that there is much that can be improved regarding the forum and the website in general. But again, this suggestion comes with a caveat. While improvements should be made, I don't think GOG should stray too far away from its minimalistic approach. Infact, I can't help but think that this was a deliberate design decision in order to make the GOG website pleasant to browse even on older computers. So any improvements should be done with that in mind.

Lastly, an optional client/improvements to the GOG Downloader would contribute much to the service. While I personally wouldn't care for such a thing; I understand that there are a lot of people who value the convenience of a client. This isn't to say that a theoretical GOG optional client would have to be as feature rich as the Steam one (at the end of the day, I don't think most GOG customers really care about frivolous things, such as badges and Achievements). However, an easy way to update your games and manage your downloads would significantly improve the GOG experience for some people.

GOG doesn't (and absolutely shouldn't, in my eyes) have to be like other DD services. But that doesn't mean it couldn't be improved in its own way and/or that it shouldn't take inspiration from the positives of other services.