Posted October 21, 2012

MarioFanaticXV
Tabletop Gamer
Registered: Dec 2011
From United States

bazilisek
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Registered: Oct 2009
From Czech Republic
Posted October 21, 2012
Err… Guess who was selecting music for our wedding? And guess what I picked for the main event?

Fenixp
nnpab
Registered: Sep 2008
From Czech Republic

bazilisek
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BlueMooner
Blue User
Registered: Jun 2012
From United States
Posted October 21, 2012
I'm sorry too. I had no idea people were actually making mix tapes and listening to them at work or elsewhere. That's very surprising to me. No. Any particular um... track I should listen to, or all of it?
hedwards: What's it to you? If you don't want to listen, don't download. Obviously, people want to listen otherwise they wouldn't be available at all. Easy... I was questioning, not attacking.
Not so. Movie music often includes lyrics, something game music rarely (ever?) does. IME game music has only been instrumental (though to be fair, I've only played older games). Further, movie music is often music frequently heard on the radio and may be strongly associated with a person, place, event, time, or generation. Further, these songs are heard by many, and so there's a communal aspect where many people share an understanding or feeling with a song, something not really shared with game music. Music videos can also help convey a message or imprint something on a community. Lyrics and context certainly aren't necessary, but I do feel they can potentially add to music. Some songs that have brought me to tears would not have done so sans lyrics.
My purpose certainly wasn't to criticize those who listen, or to suggest that GOG should stop doing it. I was honestly wondering about something that I didn't understand.
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I've certainly played games where the music really augmented the experience and made me enjoy the game, or even a certain portion, even more. However I've always considered the music as part of the game, and so if I really liked its music, I might want to play the game more. I don't think I've ever once thought of listening to game music out in my daily life.
Perhaps the closest is one theme from Temple of Elemental Evil which I found very soothing and used to listen to to go to sleep. But part of the allure was not the music, but where in the game the music was playing. So even if I had had the music as a separate file, I still would have run the game to hear it.
Another reason I found it curious is that, to my knowledge, game music is fairly easily accessible from the game files. Thus, it seemed to me that people were essentially asking for an extra copy of the music folder, which seemed strange. It's like asking for multiple exe files. Why? It made no sense to me.

Not so. Movie music often includes lyrics, something game music rarely (ever?) does. IME game music has only been instrumental (though to be fair, I've only played older games). Further, movie music is often music frequently heard on the radio and may be strongly associated with a person, place, event, time, or generation. Further, these songs are heard by many, and so there's a communal aspect where many people share an understanding or feeling with a song, something not really shared with game music. Music videos can also help convey a message or imprint something on a community. Lyrics and context certainly aren't necessary, but I do feel they can potentially add to music. Some songs that have brought me to tears would not have done so sans lyrics.
My purpose certainly wasn't to criticize those who listen, or to suggest that GOG should stop doing it. I was honestly wondering about something that I didn't understand.
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I've certainly played games where the music really augmented the experience and made me enjoy the game, or even a certain portion, even more. However I've always considered the music as part of the game, and so if I really liked its music, I might want to play the game more. I don't think I've ever once thought of listening to game music out in my daily life.
Perhaps the closest is one theme from Temple of Elemental Evil which I found very soothing and used to listen to to go to sleep. But part of the allure was not the music, but where in the game the music was playing. So even if I had had the music as a separate file, I still would have run the game to hear it.
Another reason I found it curious is that, to my knowledge, game music is fairly easily accessible from the game files. Thus, it seemed to me that people were essentially asking for an extra copy of the music folder, which seemed strange. It's like asking for multiple exe files. Why? It made no sense to me.

Psyringe
Vagabond
Registered: Sep 2011
From Germany
Posted October 21, 2012

I don't even know where to begin addressing this.
First, lots of movie soundtracks are instrumental. I don't know why anybody would debate this. Just take a look at any online shop that has soundtracks.
Second, what's wrong with instrumental music? Some people tend to like it. Many people actually _prefer_ instrumental music when they're playing it in the background, since it doesn't detract so much from whatever they are doing.
Third, a _lot_ of games have non-instrumental soundtracks. I already mentioned "Baba Yetu" from Civ4, this game has (off the top of my head) probably two dozen non-instrumental tracks. I've recently played GTA4, which has loads of tracks from The Who, Bob Seger, ELO, and more artists than you can shake a stick at. Especially choruses have been a staple of computer game musics for more than a decade.


_Especially_ for the older games that you seem to be talking about, extracting their music is far more elaborate than copying over some files. Rather, it's a jungle of proprietary formats, some even specific to just one single game.
Anyway. Sorry if this reply sounds offensive (I have a hunch that it might, but I'm really just astounded by the ... umm ... no, it's probably impossible to say that without it coming across as derogatory. Let's just say I'm astounded.
To end this post on a lighter note, and to show that video game music is a far bigger part of contemporary entertainment than you may have thought, here's a video that I like (the music is from Tetris, in case you don't recognize it):
Complete History of the Soviet Union

timppu
Favorite race: Formula__One
Registered: Jun 2011
From Finland

Psyringe
Vagabond
Registered: Sep 2011
From Germany
Posted October 21, 2012
Edit: Also, please note that many of the people who are interested in soundtracks, like to get them in a better format than that provided in-game. I often see people asking for soundtracks in FLAC format, for example.

Telika
Registered: Apr 2012
From Switzerland
Posted October 21, 2012
I'd suggest to play the game first actually (I generally prefer to discover soundtracks in context), it's one of the best videogames ever for many reason, its usage of background music is one. If not, I suggest the whole soundtrack, as it goes sort of crescendo (with the in-game fights, emotional stakes, and situations, getting more and more intense). It's a typical game soundtrack, whick means that most tracks are made to "loop", and so, have no precise beginning+end structure, but they are still great. Also, the game and the soundtrack end with a song.
As said by another, this is very wrong. Go see a movie. How many times do the background music have actual singing ? Most soundtracks are purely instrumental, songs are the exception.
Also, many people prefer music without (often poor) lyrics. Think jazz, classical music, etc...
As said by another, this is very wrong. Go see a movie. How many times do the background music have actual singing ? Most soundtracks are purely instrumental, songs are the exception.
Also, many people prefer music without (often poor) lyrics. Think jazz, classical music, etc...

Fenixp
nnpab
Registered: Sep 2008
From Czech Republic
Posted October 21, 2012

And there's also Warrior within soundtrack. See? Lyrics.
Post edited October 21, 2012 by Fenixp

SimonG
SimonG597
Registered: Sep 2010
From Germany

Psyringe
Vagabond
Registered: Sep 2011
From Germany
Posted October 21, 2012
In keeping with the more educational turn that this thread has taken, here's the "Baba Yetu" song from Civ4 (Attention! Lyrics! ;) ):
Baba Yetu
And the main theme of Morrowind, which for some reason still sends shivers down my spine although I have listened to it hundreds of times:
Morrowind Main Theme
Enjoy :)
Baba Yetu
And the main theme of Morrowind, which for some reason still sends shivers down my spine although I have listened to it hundreds of times:
Morrowind Main Theme
Enjoy :)

nmillar
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Registered: Feb 2009
From United Kingdom
Posted October 21, 2012
Yes, I like to listen to soundtracks while driving. :)

Hmm-Hmm.
New User
Registered: Dec 2010
From Netherlands
Posted October 21, 2012
Yes, definitely. There are plenty of excellent soundtracks out there worth listening. Bastion's soundtrack, for example.

Nirth
GFN / VR / Switch!
Registered: Oct 2010
From Other
Posted October 21, 2012
