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Posted July 02, 2013
The Pit goes on even deeper now!

Sword of the Stars: The Pit: MindGames DLC, an expansion pack adding two new playable characters, new insane-er gameplay mode, new locations, and new gameplay features to the challenging Sci-Fi roguelike, is available for only $4.99 on GOG.com.

[url=http://www.gog.com/gamecard/the_pit_mindgames_dlc]Sword of the Stars: The Pit: MindGames is a shiny example of DLC that truly deserves to be called an expansion! MindGames adds so much new content and features to Sword of the Stars: The Pit, that it can significantly change the way you play the game. You get two new playable characters, one of which--the telekinetic Psion--is the reason for the pack's title. The second one is the first playable alien--the Tarka Ranger. Two new play modes are being added, one of them allows you to play indefinitely, the other--aptly called "Seriously? Mode"--delivers even higher difficulty level to the hardcore gamers that find the "Insane Mode" falling short of their masochistic expectations. There are ten new levels waiting to be explored, including the new vast biosphere environments. Even the gameplay mechanics experience an overhaul with the addition of XP and item "banking" system, allowing some boost for the starting characters. If you thought you knew The Pit, think again!

For more challenge and depth in your favorite Sci-Fi roguelike, grab Sword of the Stars: The Pit: MindGames DLC on GOG.com for only $4.99. You know you need it!

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This version of the DLC works exclusively with the GOG.com DRM-free Sword of the Stars: The Pit game.
Post edited July 02, 2013 by JudasIscariot
Posted July 02, 2013
I'm not against DLC (at least not if is of a certain quality, which this one is without any doubt), but it really should be integrated into the original game card of the base game and not get a seperate entry in the catalogue. Would be really great if you could change that, GOG.

Wishlisted for now, will probably buy it when I finally find the time to really play Sword of the Stars: The Pit.
Posted July 02, 2013
"and how exactly is GOG supposed to know that? usually the development of DLC is dependent on the game's commercial success. if a game doesn't sell well enough, no DLC will be made. in most cases, GOG wouldn't be able to get an answer from publishers as to whether DLC is coming or not."


I agree completely with this point, I am just relaying what most people who argue like that are saying.

As far as the whole it is just video games thing, that is stupid. You may just as well as respond to someone complaining about a book they bought having one in every 15 pages missing that "It is only a book".

"that's actually a good point. but then again, this is exactly what PC gaming used to be like; you installed the base game, then half a dozen patches on top of each other, then expansions and patches for the expansions. GOG is just staying retro all the way."

Well hopefully the industry is learning from its past mistakes. In this day and age of autopatching, etc That is not how things should be done.
Posted July 02, 2013
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Kristian: What he is saying is that if he knows a game will have DLC he will refuse to buy it unless and until all the DLC has already been released.
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Fred_DM: ugh...
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Kristian: He wants a heads up on a games page informing people that DLC is coming/planned so he and people like him can avoid the game until that point.
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Fred_DM: and how exactly is GOG supposed to know that? usually the development of DLC is dependent on the game's commercial success. if a game doesn't sell well enough, no DLC will be made. in most cases, GOG wouldn't be able to get an answer from publishers as to whether DLC is coming or not.
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Kristian: He wants to avoid accidentally buying a game with upcoming DLC.
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Fred_DM: yeah, that would be terrible...
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Kristian: I believe I once bought a game in a bundle on Steam that uses GFWL by accident.
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Fred_DM: how dreadful. come on. you're talking about videogames here. it's not going to scar you for the rest of your life.
Many developers/publishers already have in mind to release DLCs while the main game isn't released, independent of success. Omerta wasn't a success so far but there are already 4 DLCs. The Pit main game was released in february and and gets now a big DLC which seems to be more like an expansion. In such cases I see no problem to add an information about upcoming DLCs on the gamepage when gog gets informed about it. It's maybe not a problem and not relevant for you, but it would also not hurt you and I think it would be a nice customer service.

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Starmaker: I am once again completely baffled as to why one wouldn't want moar content for games they like.
Nothing against "moar" content, but why not inform the people early as possible so they can decide when they should buy and play it? Again, I have no problem when gog wants to sell dlcs and it's also not the end of the world if they just release the dlcs as they're doing right know, but I would really appreciate it if they could give some informations early as possible.
Post edited July 02, 2013 by DukeNukemForever
Posted July 02, 2013
Interesting. I might give it a looksies once I get around to actually playing SotS that I just bought in the summer sale. Definitely need to find out if I like the game enough to warrant to buy more of it.

While typically not a proponent for DLC, it is nice to have the option, and this may actually be worthwhile. That said, I agree with the others that there should be a better integration of DLC with base game on GOG. Right now it might not be such a big problem, but as time goes on it could quite easily get out of hand.
Posted July 02, 2013
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Dear god. More DLC? On GOG?!?! Oh noes, WE'RE ALL DOOMED! DOOMED I TELL YOU!! CIVILISATION AS WE KNOW IT IS CRUMBLING! BEFORE WE KNOW IT, CATS WILL BE SLEEPING WITH DOGS AND GENERAL MAYHEM WILL ENSUE!

You people are worse than Hitler. Actually, no. Hitler may've killed millions of innocents just because he could, but at least he didn't put something as vile and disgusting and downright disgraceful as downloadable content on a site as holy as GOG. You people are literally taking a shit on everyone's faces right now. Yeah, literally.
Posted July 02, 2013
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Hesusio: Dear god. More DLC? On GOG?!?! Oh noes, WE'RE ALL DOOMED! DOOMED I TELL YOU!! CIVILISATION AS WE KNOW IT IS CRUMBLING! BEFORE WE KNOW IT, CATS WILL BE SLEEPING WITH DOGS AND GENERAL MAYHEM WILL ENSUE!

You people are worse than Hitler. Actually, no. Hitler may've killed millions of innocents just because he could, but at least he didn't put something as vile and disgusting and downright disgraceful as downloadable content on a site as holy as GOG. You people are literally taking a shit on everyone's faces right now. Yeah, literally.
And now the discussion quality went completely down under, hi drama queen ;-)

It's maybe not of your interest, but you should maybe read the postings before getting into drama mode, so far the discussion was very polite and folks like me just asked if gog can add some more information. Doom is btw welcomed as long we talk about the franchise...
Posted July 02, 2013
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Hesusio: *Drama Queen rant deleted* ;-p
I don't see any complaints about about the DLC coming here. Some people seem to complain not being told about it in advance so they don't accidentially buy "incomplete version" of the game. My suggestion for them is that if the game is new release, wait a year and see if any info of possible expansion/DLC pops up by then. If no info is released by then, they're probably safe to buy it, or if they want to be extra carefull wait another year or ten.
Posted July 02, 2013
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Hesusio: ...Yeah, literally.
http://xkcd.com/725/
Posted July 02, 2013
To play the base game first, or to add the DLC?
Posted July 02, 2013
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ShadowWulfe: To play the base game first, or to add the DLC?
It makes more sense to me to see how much you enjoy the base game first before deciding if you'd like the additional stuff.
Posted July 02, 2013
While this DLC looks good, I find it pretty amusing that it costs the same as the base game itself. I know, I know, the game is currently on sale, but still...
Posted July 02, 2013
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One thing I'd like to add to the discussion is that our WebDev team is still working on a better, more seamless and friendly way of incorporating DLC to GOG.com page.

*sigh*

Actually, there's a second thing: the assumption that GOG.com always knows if a developer is planning on producing a DLC for their game or not is unrealistic. Sometimes we know, sometimes we don't, sometimes we ask and hear "yes", or "no", or "we don't know yet"! There are very few things set in stone when it comes to indie development, and--in my opinion--for the most cases it's actually a very good thing. Adjusting your plans for your game to meet the gamers' expectations is something all devs would greatly benefit from. Flexibility and communication generally tends to produce good content, as opposed to content that nobody needs nor wants but still gets made due to lack of the aforementioned.

This, I would imagine, is an example of additional content that's going to be warmly welcomed by all SOTS: The Pit players, as it caters to actual needs and likes without cutting any corners in the way. Solid work, worth its price as an expansion if you ask me.

Just my personal observation. Move on ;-)
Post edited July 02, 2013 by G-Doc
Posted July 02, 2013
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KarmaTV: But why don't you just call it an expansion? Many people around get their skin with itchy rash when they hear about "DLC" word.
Because it's "Content" that you have to "DownLoad". Simple as that, really. Granted everything in the catalog qualifies under that definition but changing the term just because a couple of people whine very loudly about the fact that things change is just silly, honestly.

Hm.

Maybe I'm wrong :P
Posted July 02, 2013
Uh I need glasses. Read first that it was The Pit: Minigames.
Posted July 02, 2013
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KarmaTV: But why don't you just call it an expansion? Many people around get their skin with itchy rash when they hear about "DLC" word.
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Shaolin_sKunk: Because it's "Content" that you have to "DownLoad". Simple as that, really. Granted everything in the catalog qualifies under that definition but changing the term just because a couple of people whine very loudly about the fact that things change is just silly, honestly.

Hm.

Maybe I'm wrong :P
Actually, I think that calling it an expansion would be highly beneficial. DLC has developed a highly negative connotation over the past couple years in more than just "a couple people's" minds. Even I can't help but think of Horse Armor when I see the letters "DLC".
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