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Posted April 02, 2012
I still have the original version in a carboard box. It was not a bad expansion, it just could be a lot better. Faster walking was great, but I've never really liked to play monk. Barbarian was interesting, but I like casters more.
Its biggest flaw was it was developed and released by Sierra and not Blizzard. Blizzard would have made it much better I think.
Posted April 02, 2012
It was so bad that Blizzard aren't even recognizing there ever was a Hellfire expansion to Diablo these days.

Seriously, just play something else, unless you want it for collection purposes.
Posted April 02, 2012
Ahhhh Hellfire, It wouldn't have been so bad if it actually duplicated the patch fixes that LOD got.

Kinda sad that the only patch Sierra ever made for it was16-bit, so you can't even update the game on 64-bit systems.
Posted April 02, 2012
Thanks for the advice and replies folks! I just wanted it for "old times" sake. I have a lot of boxed copies of old games such as Baldur's Gate and Torment. Diablo sits happily alongside them. I'll hunt for it on eBay. Thanks again!
Posted April 02, 2012
It added the Monk class to the game, added some items (including new potions) a new quest chain.

And no ones mentioned it OH SO THANKFULLY speeds your character up in town. Between loading and the fact your character only walks at a snails pace in Diablo, bad enough in dungeon but at least the combat there can distract you. But even worse in town. Hellfire makes your character practically sprint around in town.

That being said, it did have a sort of generic feel to it. I was so pissed a few months ago I saw it in a used media store for 10 bucks didn't have the extra cash at the time for it. (I was there selling some books for gas money lol) went back a few weeks later and it was gone.

That said I have problems getting Diablo 1 to run right on Windows 7 anyways. I still in some ways feel Diablo 1 was more memorable than Diablo 2. I enjoy the music a bit more, that damn town theme will forever be etched in my brain. I enjoyed the conversations.. and Wirt, classic quest lines like The Butcher. Ah great game.

I unlike others though played it back in the day not on PC. But on Playstation
Posted April 02, 2012
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Sequiro: That said I have problems getting Diablo 1 to run right on Windows 7 anyways.
Install outside of system-wide folders, run with admin rights, run with 98 / ME compatibility mode, and have the Screen Resolution window open before starting the game (right click on desktop -> Screen Resolution).
Posted April 02, 2012
I've messed with it back in the days when I was *ahem* less interested in following the law. It adds 3 character classes, but two of them require some tweaking to find and just use the warrior and rogue character models. It's not bad, in that it doesn't make Diablo actively worse through installing it, but when you compare it to the general standard of quality that Blizzard adheres to it seems fairly obvious why they have never re-released it.

And for those saying they don't have the rights: Activision has the rights to all of Sierra's stuff and they also happen to own Blizzard. It would not be hard to re-release it. However, I somehow doubt that they ever will.
Posted April 03, 2012
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ArbitraryWater: I've messed with it back in the days when I was *ahem* less interested in following the law. It adds 3 character classes, but two of them require some tweaking to find and just use the warrior and rogue character models. It's not bad, in that it doesn't make Diablo actively worse through installing it, but when you compare it to the general standard of quality that Blizzard adheres to it seems fairly obvious why they have never re-released it.

And for those saying they don't have the rights: Activision has the rights to all of Sierra's stuff and they also happen to own Blizzard. It would not be hard to re-release it. However, I somehow doubt that they ever will.
Blizzard isn't activision they both have the same parent company though. Not that it's likely to change things as I doubt they'd have trouble securing licensing if they wanted to.
Posted April 03, 2012
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Sequiro: It added the Monk class to the game, added some items (including new potions) a new quest chain.

And no ones mentioned it OH SO THANKFULLY speeds your character up in town. Between loading and the fact your character only walks at a snails pace in Diablo, bad enough in dungeon but at least the combat there can distract you. But even worse in town. Hellfire makes your character practically sprint around in town.

That being said, it did have a sort of generic feel to it. I was so pissed a few months ago I saw it in a used media store for 10 bucks didn't have the extra cash at the time for it. (I was there selling some books for gas money lol) went back a few weeks later and it was gone.

That said I have problems getting Diablo 1 to run right on Windows 7 anyways. I still in some ways feel Diablo 1 was more memorable than Diablo 2. I enjoy the music a bit more, that damn town theme will forever be etched in my brain. I enjoyed the conversations.. and Wirt, classic quest lines like The Butcher. Ah great game.

I unlike others though played it back in the day not on PC. But on Playstation
Create a Diablo.bat file with the following contents in the game folder and run the game from this file instead the exe..

@echo off
taskkill /f /im explorer.exe
diablo.exe
pause
start explorer.exe
exit

It force closes Windows 7 Explorer which causes the issues because of incompatibility with the palette swaps the game uses.

This also works for any old game that has color issues.
Post edited April 03, 2012 by DodoGeo
Posted April 03, 2012
i recently re-played Diablo 1 with the Hellfire expansion. it's alright, but nothing spectacular. works in W7x64.

funnny thing is, however, that the Hellfire patch, issued by Sierra, has a 16-bit installer. the best way to install the patch on W7x64 is to download its contents from somewhere else and copy them into the Hellfire install folder.
Posted April 03, 2012
Until Blizzard even consider hosting their older games for sale (online or physical) we won't see them revisiting Hellfire at all.

Sadly they seem to not like their older games; Diablo has even been taken out of hte Diablo Battlechest. Warcraft 2 Bnet edition is out there in disk form if you're lucky. I honestly don't get why they won't release their older games as there is clearly a market for them
Posted April 03, 2012
In fact I do not think having not played Hellfire is a loss. It is probably still lying around somewhere in my cellar, but I couldn't care less. I'd love a modernized version of the original Diablo, though :D
Post edited April 05, 2012 by PaulDenton
Posted April 05, 2012
I was looking for other things and accidentally found this: http://diablo2.diablowiki.net/Cornerstone_of_the_World
It was another brilliant reason to have Hellfire back then - this Hellfire's "quest" allowed to transfer items between characters in single player mode! :)
Posted April 05, 2012
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overread: Sadly they seem to not like their older games; Diablo has even been taken out of hte Diablo Battlechest. Warcraft 2 Bnet edition is out there in disk form if you're lucky. I honestly don't get why they won't release their older games as there is clearly a market for them
The "why" seems fairly obvious to me: they don't have Mac OS X ports. Blizzard is big on the cross-platform bit, but Diablo and WarCraft II Battle.net Edition were Mac OS 9 apps.
Posted April 05, 2012
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overread: Sadly they seem to not like their older games; Diablo has even been taken out of hte Diablo Battlechest. Warcraft 2 Bnet edition is out there in disk form if you're lucky. I honestly don't get why they won't release their older games as there is clearly a market for them
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ATimson: The "why" seems fairly obvious to me: they don't have Mac OS X ports. Blizzard is big on the cross-platform bit, but Diablo and WarCraft II Battle.net Edition were Mac OS 9 apps.
That's a terrible reason to not release them. Now that OSX runs in AMD64 hardware running Intel processors, I see no reason for that to be the case. It's simply a matter of using the correct wrapper or using bootcamp to load it up. A dual platform game is far less important than it was back when those games were new.

Of course it's less than ideal, but still, a really stupid reason to refuse to sell the games.
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