Posted June 16, 2014
_ChaosFox_
Zero fox given.
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iippo
Slave of economy
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From Finland
Posted June 16, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYtvkoqTnSs
"chill"
...and really, their business models are far worse than what consoles have ever had. Apparently quite huge part of mobile gamers are "virgins" - in the sense that mobile is their first contanct with "gaming"....so the "please pay 10€ to play 5mins" marketing tricks seem natural to them D:
"chill"
Snickersnack: Actually, I think the IBM PC Compatible lineage of PCs may become too niche to support mainstream gaming in the next 10-15 years. Average people seem to be adopting tablet PCs as their primary computers. New development will surely follow their dollars. As Windows becomes less and less important, the platform erodes.
It's kind of sad. :(
weirdly enough, i too think mobile gaming (tablets / smartphones) are going to be on the rise in future as well. It's kind of sad. :(
...and really, their business models are far worse than what consoles have ever had. Apparently quite huge part of mobile gamers are "virgins" - in the sense that mobile is their first contanct with "gaming"....so the "please pay 10€ to play 5mins" marketing tricks seem natural to them D:
Post edited June 16, 2014 by iippo
Siannah
what?
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iippo
Slave of economy
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From Finland
Posted June 16, 2014
iippo: weirdly enough, i too think mobile gaming (tablets / smartphones) are going to be on the rise in future as well.
Siannah: Stardock seems to see that differently and claims: Our poorest-selling DLC for PC games generates more income than nearly every iOS or Android developer app "Despite primarily being a PC publisher and developer, Stardock did look into the mobile market. It’s just not viable, said Wardell. “Our poorest-selling DLC for PC games generates more income than nearly every iOS or Android developer app we’ve gotten numbers for.”"
well, not sure if thats really fair to compare though. I mean their "weakest DLC" is probably quite good seller... Meanwhile in mobile market majority make pennies and the few that sell - sell like water in desert.
amok
FREEEEDOOOM!!!!
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From United Kingdom
Posted June 16, 2014
Is it? That is certainly news to me. Last I heard it was doing great. A bit of an over-saturation, maybe, but if anything else that is a sign of a booming market, not one in decline.
Trajhenkhetlive
Blondie
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From United States
Posted June 16, 2014
Here is why PC gaming is not dying...
- Prices for games and peripherals are influenced by an open market of third party services and goods. Thus games will be cheaper or at least truer to what they actually cost rather than arbitrarily decided by one company.
- Latest and greatest graphics and sound cards will hit PC's first.
- Some games need a mouse and keyboard and most console makers don't embrace that input device.
- It was revealed at a gaming conference, that the OpenGL API has significant performance gains against comparable services especially direct X. That means developers can use a none proprietary API to make a game (with the best performance possible), and with a bit of tweeking, get it to work on a myriad of platforms without having to pay a fee to do so.
- Also it seems to me each year consoles approach the price of a low cost PC. If consoles ever get to be about 200 dollars more expensive then now, you can expect people to weigh getting a new PC with just as much graphical/sound ability against a specialized machine.
- One last thing. You can upgrade PC parts. You could spend 4-5 hundred dollars on a new system, or spend half that or 2/3rds that cost for a substantial graphics boost.
- Prices for games and peripherals are influenced by an open market of third party services and goods. Thus games will be cheaper or at least truer to what they actually cost rather than arbitrarily decided by one company.
- Latest and greatest graphics and sound cards will hit PC's first.
- Some games need a mouse and keyboard and most console makers don't embrace that input device.
- It was revealed at a gaming conference, that the OpenGL API has significant performance gains against comparable services especially direct X. That means developers can use a none proprietary API to make a game (with the best performance possible), and with a bit of tweeking, get it to work on a myriad of platforms without having to pay a fee to do so.
- Also it seems to me each year consoles approach the price of a low cost PC. If consoles ever get to be about 200 dollars more expensive then now, you can expect people to weigh getting a new PC with just as much graphical/sound ability against a specialized machine.
- One last thing. You can upgrade PC parts. You could spend 4-5 hundred dollars on a new system, or spend half that or 2/3rds that cost for a substantial graphics boost.
Post edited June 16, 2014 by Trajhenkhetlive
Smannesman
4-bit classic
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From Netherlands
Posted June 16, 2014
Crosmando: List of Dead Consoles 1973- (no longer being manufactured officially and sold):
huge list
PC (still being manufactured officially and sold).
THE IBM COMPATIBLE MASTER RACE SOLDIERS ON ONCE AGAIN
List of PC models no longer being sold, not enough paper in the world. huge list
PC (still being manufactured officially and sold).
THE IBM COMPATIBLE MASTER RACE SOLDIERS ON ONCE AGAIN
THE CONSOLE UBER RACE CONQUERS ALL.
OlivawR
New User
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From Italy
Posted June 16, 2014
700 games on gog alone. How many there are on PS, xbox, nintendo?
zeffyr
Meteorologist
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Wishbone
Red herring
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From Denmark
Posted June 16, 2014
jamyskis: Anyway, I do get the sense of late that while a lot of PC gamers were moaning about the quality of games being tied to console lifecycles, they may yet come to regret that sentiment. It was the stagnation in the console market that helped PC by making a low-end system a viable gaming PC.
With a number of next-gen focused releases (Watch Dogs, Wolfenstein, Dead Rising 3), the minimum specs for games have risen drastically, meaning that it is now again rather expensive to match current-gen console performance.
You're forgetting one thing: In every previous console generation, the latest-gen consoles were about a year ahead of state-of-the-art PCs at launch. In this generation they're about half a year behind (is the general impression I get). So while only the top 5% or so of current PCs can keep up with the next-gen consoles (I'm pulling numbers out of my ass here, you understand), that's still 2 years earlier than it took to reach the same scenario during the launch of the previous generation of consoles. With a number of next-gen focused releases (Watch Dogs, Wolfenstein, Dead Rising 3), the minimum specs for games have risen drastically, meaning that it is now again rather expensive to match current-gen console performance.
Basically, this generation of consoles have lost the competition with PCs before the competition even began. This means that this generation of consoles will have a much worse effect on the quality of PC games than the previous generation did, at least if it has as long a life cycle.
SpaceManThe
Gods Child
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Smannesman
4-bit classic
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pimpmonkey2382.313
You are obsolete. Delete!
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From United States
Posted June 16, 2014
What's next console manual burning?
Klumpen0815
+91
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From Germany
Posted June 16, 2014
/me hands out the matches
Gonchi
Incorrigible
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From Uruguay
Posted June 16, 2014
Did PC gaming die again? Fuck it, I'm not going to the funeral this time.