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Posted December 17, 2012
Reading through this thread I think I might be seeing a group of adults being sucked into teenage drama by a 14 year old who was just being a 14 year old.

I could be wrong but I think this thread should go to its rest now. It is holiday time for many of us, a time for peace and love. I think we ought to get back to that and all things gaming, fun and really pretty much anything else besides this.

If this doesn't mark vexxum changing behavior and demonstrating learning then clearly there is a problem but why not wait and see at this point? I can really understand views on both sides of the coin here, so I am not intending to be critical of anyone here but I think it would be good to just let this go for now. If things do not turn out well down the road, I guess more drama will ensue but I hope not.

Merry Christmas everyone and happy holidays to anyone that may celebrate another holiday special to them. :D
Posted December 17, 2012
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Miaghstir: GameRager and Roman15 are great examples here.
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Neobr10: Let this be a lesson to all of us.
Thank GOG for their time and attention.
Post edited December 17, 2012 by SimonG
Posted December 17, 2012
I actually have a message in my inbox from GameRager apologizing for some word clashing a good while back. That's what I like about this forum, people tend to apologize and they are good people even if they sometimes go a bit overboard. I hardly see that in any community, it's generally throwing accusations at eachother until someone gets bored.
Posted December 17, 2012
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Neobr10: Oh yeah, right Gamerager. Because begging for free stuff and making fake accounts is not being a jerk. That's some nice double standards right there.
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GameRager: Please don't put words in my mouth. OP may have been a bit of a jerk in the beginning, but he seems to have stopped now. As such I called those who were being rude on it. If I would've seen OP acting rude I would've done the same.

(And no, I don't think begging for stuff automatically makes one a jerk. To me it depends on other factors like how often one begs/how they ask/etc.)
If your standards are gonna be on "temporarity" i must ask: where excactly is the line? couldn't we just as well say "the "haters" have been assholes to the op but they seem to have stopped now (no new posts for 15min) so why should he complain?"

Such standards never work, as people will allways have differnet time aspects in which they put their arguments <<for>>

No! Let the people regulate, reward and punnish, and you shall have true democracy, vexxum&you might not like the effects of true democracies, but luckily this isn't a country and avoiding certain people are quite easy.

(and i still question this stupid rep focus, if you&yours feel its so important that vexxum gets high rep and can get free games, why cant you just change the rules of the giveaways that you&those that agree with you does?
That way every1 wins...
Posted December 17, 2012
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GameRager: You don't have to be so hostile/rude, you know.
You need a reality-check buddy. So a random guy comes into the forum, acts like a fucking asshole, and i'm the one being rude/hostile? Besides, how exactly am i being rude or hostile? So i can't downrate posts that i don't like because you don't want me to?

I don't even know why i still take your posts seriously.

If you want so much to know why i downvoted his posts, i'll tell you. I think that this thread is just a lame attempt at getting more rep, and for all the shit that this guy has done (even going as far to make fake accounts) that could very well be true. I might be wrong, but this is what i think.
Posted December 17, 2012
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GameRager: snip
Are you a social worker? Just asking 'cause you seem to jump in whenever people don't treat each other nicely. :D
Posted December 17, 2012
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GameRager: What reasons do you consider valid? If you downrated his apology posts just because you still don't trust him/dislike him then imo those aren't valid reasons.
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I agree one shouldn't just take his words at face value but that doesn't mean people should keep low rating his posts(His nice posts I mean.) and dumping on him(Even if you don't trust his words.).
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So that means his unoffensive, non begging posts should be downrated? Because of stupid shit he did in the recent past & because a bad egg scammed some people here recently? How does that make sense....and how is that an example of how a mature community like GOG should act?
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Imo asking for games isn't that big a deal(People can just ignore such requests and move on, can't they?)...or at least not a big enough deal to deserve so much negativity thrown at him......and that Boys vs Girls thread was a fun idea(Again imo....i'm willing to bet if someone else who's been here longer made a similar thread it wouldn't have gotten such criticism.). Funny how people tell him to participate in the community then when he makes a "game" thread to do just that some people still complained.

And I didn't mean you should uprate his posts/uprate him just for apologizing(I even said this several times in this thread.).....I said people shouldn't uprate him just for apologizing(If they didn't want to.) or downrate his posts in here(Unless they were truly offensive/deserving of downrating, that is.).
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And who is qualified, then? One's past actions shouldn't disqualify them from commenting on an issue if they feel the need to and it shouldn't make them automatically unqualified to speak on the subject.
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I also believe he has/will have to earn most people's trust over time and with actions, but I think his apology was a nice start imo & don't like it when people pick on him(via downrating his apologies) just because they dislike him or still don't trust him. Don't trust him even after he apologized? Fine. Then tell him your thoughts on the matter in a calm, civil manner or ignore him & move on. Don't downrate his posts out of spite.

And no, downrating him/continuing to mistrust him(and other newcomers) just because others caused trouble here in the past isn't understandable(at least to me).
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Rep shouldn't matter, but everyone is different. Things that don't bother some might bother others. This doesn't mean things are unimportant just because we think they are(and vice versa).
You keep telling us that we shouldn't judge vexxum's posts here because of his previous actions, yet you keep judging those who dare to downvote him. This smells like hypocrisy to me.

And for fuck's sake, rep is just a number, that's it. It doesn't measure how good you are or how big your penis is.

By the way, this guy vexxum really amazes me:

http://forum.canvasrider.com/topic33028.html

It must be him.
Post edited December 17, 2012 by Neobr10
Posted December 17, 2012
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Neobr10: You need a reality-check buddy. So a random guy comes into the forum, acts like a fucking asshole, and i'm the one being rude/hostile? Besides, how exactly am i being rude or hostile? So i can't downrate posts that i don't like because you don't want me to?
Yeah, let the anger out, smash his fucking face in!
Sorry, it's just fun watching you two "fight". It's like Spiderman and The Punisher arguing over some low-life that supposedly wants to redeem himself. :D
Posted December 17, 2012
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tsgnurk: If your standards are gonna be on "temporarity" i must ask: where exactly is the line? couldn't we just as well say "the "haters" have been assholes to the op but they seem to have stopped now (no new posts for 15min) so why should he complain?"

Such standards never work, as people will always have different time aspects in which they put their arguments <<for>>
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No! Let the people regulate, reward and punish, and you shall have true democracy, vexxum&you might not like the effects of true democracies, but luckily this isn't a country and avoiding certain people are quite easy.
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(and i still question this stupid rep focus, if you&yours feel its so important that vexxum gets high rep and can get free games, why cant you just change the rules of the giveaways that you&those that agree with you does?
That way every1 wins...
I don't think he should complain anymore, and should move on now that he said his peace. (Saying anything more will just upset those already upset even more and likely won't change their minds.)

Sadly, some people just can't over such things......I hope he can, though, and that he stays on the forums and starts to become a productive/kind/liked forum member.
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No what he(and to some extent I) don't like is those using such democratic tools to grind axes and hold grudges. Also a question: If avoiding people is easy then why do some here find it hard to avoid the posts of those they don't like? People saw this was a thread by someone they didn't like, yet they entered it/got upset/downrated posts because they don't like the OP.

(I'm not saying everyone is like this, but the posts where he apologizes and says nothing else should illustrate i'm not just talking out of my proverbial ass here.)
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I never said he should get or be given high rep(To get games or otherwise)....just that people shouldn't downrate his posts unfairly out of spite for his previous actions or because they just don't like him. This seems fair, doesn't it?

It'd be like if(IRL) people called us names once, so we started calling them names and doing other nasty things to them repeatedly to get back at them instead of letting it go or handling the matter more maturely.
Posted December 17, 2012
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Neobr10: http://forum.canvasrider.com/topic33028.html

It must be him.
Good catch. Well, I'd say vexxum can go fuck himself now.
Posted December 17, 2012
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Neobr10: Does rep even matter that much? I got a few downrepped posts for stupid reasons, yet i'm not bitching about it. It happens, there are users who downrep posts just for expressing a different opinion. Just move on.
Well, I don't care much about it now either, but it does matter in your first days on forums.

Having -1 rep is a civil death here ;P
Posted December 17, 2012
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GameRager: snip
Well, I'd say you should let go now. It really looks like this whole "apology" is just a pathetic new approach with the goal of getting free games. It really seems that vexxum posted that request for free Steam games just hours before or after he posted this apology here. It seems that he didn't and won't learn.
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keeveek: Having -1 rep is a civil death here ;P
Well, considering that vexxum begged for free Steam games about the same time he "apologized" here he deserved that sentence. :P

Edit: Sorry guys. Obviously I mixed up the dates. Guess there is indeed a TINY chance that he has redeemed himself since then. :P
Post edited December 17, 2012 by F4LL0UT
Posted December 17, 2012
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Neobr10: By the way, this guy vexxum really amazes me:

http://forum.canvasrider.com/topic33028.html

It must be him.
lol, I would bet money that is him. Look, he is begging on another site for games and that was after trying to be nice here. Also note, he needs more games to validate his steam account...yeah that is someone I will not trust with a ten foot stick.

Most likely he has multiple accounts on multiple sites begging so no matter what words he "writes" its most likely all an attempt to get free crap although to be fair, I do not even get why to go through all this effort as no one is going to give him expensive free games that he is looking for...a lot of work to get very little in the long run.
Posted December 17, 2012
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F4LL0UT: Well, considering that vexxum begged for free Steam games about the same time he "apologized" here he deserved that sentence. :P
That was in November.
And now the Rager will come and explain that as Vexxum apologized since that doesn't matter.
Posted December 17, 2012
So now that everyone's feeling warm and fussy and have started sucking each others' dicks, is anyone willing to buy Hitman: Absolution for me?
http://impulsedriven.com/products/ESD-IMP-W3865

It's not available in my region. I will remunerate you with something of your choice of equal / similar value.
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