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Compared to....say, SecuROM, how bad is Tages?
Will it fuck up my computer horribly, cause I REALLY want to play XIII on my computer knowing that it wont get destroyed in the process.
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captfitz: Arkose in 3... 2...

I WISH!
The biggest problem with TAGES is the fact there is no revoke tool and they don't plan on making one. If a game is supplied with limited activations like Riddick then those three activations are all you are getting. Don't bother asking for more.
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Delixe: The biggest problem with TAGES is the fact there is no revoke tool and they don't plan on making one. If a game is supplied with limited activations like Riddick then those three activations are all you are getting. Don't bother asking for more.

Yes there is no revoke tool, but most companies providing TAGES DRM also allow you to request more activations (at least the ones I know about - Anno 1404 for example). I believe TAGES also has regenerating Activations, where after a certain period of time you regenerate activation 'tokens'
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carlosjuero: Yes there is no revoke tool, but most companies providing TAGES DRM also allow you to request more activations (at least the ones I know about - Anno 1404 for example). I believe TAGES also has regenerating Activations, where after a certain period of time you regenerate activation 'tokens'

Depends on the publisher. Tages can be customized. I'm not sure about Far Cry 2 but I know there was a shitstorm over Riddick: DA as Atari enforced 3 activations only.
Post edited April 14, 2010 by Delixe
From what I remember, at least for the Steam version of Riddick, one activation gets revoked automatically every 30 days. So if you already used 2, 30 days after the first one, the first one will be refunded.
At least that's in theory, I haven't tested it since I haven't uninstalled the game yet.
It also depends on the shop selling the game. Gamersgate for example make it very clear that if you need extra activation they will make it for you.
From what I now, the only DRM that can actually harm your PC is Starforce.
I am not knowingly buying anything with it.
Post edited April 14, 2010 by trusteft
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trusteft: From what I now, the only DRM that can actually harm your PC is Starforce.
I am not knowingly buying anything with it.

I struggle to even think of any publisher still using Starforce. Ubisoft were the last big publisher to drop it completely.
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trusteft: From what I now, the only DRM that can actually harm your PC is Starforce.
I am not knowingly buying anything with it.
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Delixe: I struggle to even think of any publisher still using Starforce. Ubisoft were the last big publisher to drop it completely.

RU versions of some new games still use starforce, afaik.
(can't think right now of which games exactly this is about)
Post edited April 14, 2010 by KavazovAngel
So DON'T worry about Tages?
Problems with TAGES:
1. If there are activation limits that aren't automatically refunded then activations won't be refunded under any circumstances. Contacting the publisher won't achieve shit.
2. Even their basic disc check can cause problems with more recent versions of Windows and stop the game from running when even a 'fixed' version works fine. This is especially problematic if you've got Windows 7.
3. Unlike Starforce, it's never updated so the above problem will never be resolved without a visit to a torrent site.
4. This is not including mention of the usual horror stories of TAGES buggering things up, because those are largely unsubstantiated and might be coincidences (Windows is hardly bulletproof).
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Navagon: Problems with TAGES:
1. If there are activation limits that aren't automatically refunded then activations won't be refunded under any circumstances. Contacting the publisher won't achieve shit.
2. Even their basic disc check can cause problems with more recent versions of Windows and stop the game from running when even a 'fixed' version works fine. This is especially problematic if you've got Windows 7.
3. Unlike Starforce, it's never updated so the above problem will never be resolved without a visit to a torrent site.
4. This is not including mention of the usual horror stories of TAGES buggering things up, because those are largely unsubstantiated and might be coincidences (Windows is hardly bulletproof).

True about that Windows 7 problem. I had constant driver issues when I installed The Witcher, and had to mess with the registry to fix the damn problem. The TAGES developers provide an uninstallation tool, but that did not work for me.
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trusteft: From what I now, the only DRM that can actually harm your PC is Starforce.
I am not knowingly buying anything with it.
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Delixe: I struggle to even think of any publisher still using Starforce. Ubisoft were the last big publisher to drop it completely.

DCS: Black Shark uses it. Makes me question buying the Direct2Drive version while it's on sale, but word is that it's not the old, shitty version of StarForce that Ubisoft used on Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory and some other games from around that timeframe-the kind that used the kernel mode drivers and all, had a reputation for killing optical drives, and of course, making your system extremely unstable.
Anyway, now that I know why people hate Tages, I'm starting to regret buying XIII from GamersGate during that sale, but at least it works for now. (And if they DON'T give me more activations, I'm cracking that shit, because I refuse to be screwed out of my hard-earned money!)
Crack it and you will have no problem whatsoever. You can buy the game to support developers, if you feel so. But you can crack it anyway.
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Rohan15: Compared to....say, SecuROM, how bad is Tages?
Will it fuck up my computer horribly, cause I REALLY want to play XIII on my computer knowing that it wont get destroyed in the process.

I bought Age of Pirates 2 and I couldn't play it because TAGES isn't compatible with Vista. Yes, I've tried upgrading the TAGES software. It still gives me goofball error messages. So I ran over the game with my car and that solved the problem.