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Post edited July 16, 2009 by Ois
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darthcobley: yes but there won't be any annoying activations which is the core of the drm problem these days

Are you kidding me? The whole time you're connected is one continual activation! They are simply moving the DRM from being locked to specific hardware to being locked to a specific account.
i'll rephrase it could be worse it could be securom
It's different than requiring a CD/DVD, as that check is dependent on your local PC.
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darthcobley: yes but there won't be any annoying activations which is the core of the drm problem these days
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Arkose: Are you kidding me? The whole time you're connected is one continual activation! They are simply moving the DRM from being locked to specific hardware to being locked to a specific account.

That was my feeling (continuous activation), but I withdrew my comment before you, as I could not quite explain it how I liked.
I can accept this if it's part of a online DD service (steam etc...), but it's fairly rotten as a stand alone title.
If it still requires a permanent internet connection for single player when it comes out, it's a -1 sale from me.
Multiplayer games you play over a network.
Online games you play online.
Singleplayer games you either play offline without an internet connection or online, but not both at the same time.
I fail to understand EA.
They're a games publisher with a serious disliking of customers.
You want to earn money, do something for it.
As for C&C I've always looked forward to new C&C RTS titles till I got Generals.
That simply was not worthy of the C&C label.
C&C 3 was a good game.
I always thought of Red Alert being the best of the 2 series, but RA3 changed all that for me.
Having fond memories and dozens of hours of fun with both RA and RA2, RA3 was a huge disappointment.
It lacked the humor, fun and gameplay of RA and RA2.
Post edited July 16, 2009 by HertogJan
What a joke.
I wonder how this would play for people on dialup. If it's constantly updating your progress online, it sounds like you'd get poor performance out of the game.
Or, hey, people who are sharing an internet connection. You're playing Command & Conquer, and your roommate starts up a download. All of a sudden, your single-player game slows to a crawl.
Post edited July 16, 2009 by Mentalepsy
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Mentalepsy: What a joke.
I wonder how this would play for people on dialup. If it's constantly updating your progress online, it sounds like you'd get poor performance out of the game.
Or, hey, people who are sharing an internet connection. You're playing Command & Conquer, and your roommate starts up a download. All of a sudden, your single-player game slows to a crawl.

I actually doubt anything of that sort would happen as by the sounds of it, this is mainly statistics being sent which can easily be queued and sent as needed ( and possibly as others have commented here, a poor excuse for DRM and/or thinking of it as a service rather than a product you've bought). This probably means the data it is transmitting is probably miniscule and mainly from user to EA's server and would not be affected by little bandwidth. And as the game itself ( and all its computations ) are on your pc, that is what will decide whether the game slows to a crawl or not.
The bigger worry is what happens if you have patchy connection and it drops out. How will that affect the single player game? Lose all progress ? Pause the game indefinetely until it establishes connection? Lets just hope it ends up being another Spore :)
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Kyllingen: The bigger worry is what happens if you have patchy connection and it drops out. How will that affect the single player game? Lose all progress ? Pause the game indefinetely until it establishes connection?

And what happens when you want to play it in 2015 when they've shut those servers down? The only way would be for them to patch the update stuff out
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Kyllingen: The bigger worry is what happens if you have patchy connection and it drops out. How will that affect the single player game? Lose all progress ? Pause the game indefinetely until it establishes connection? Lets just hope it ends up being another Spore :)

That's it, though; if it has to sit and wait for periodic handshakes like that, a slow connection or choked upload bandwidth may well impede it .
Post edited July 16, 2009 by Mentalepsy
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HertogJan: If it still requires a permanent internet connection for single player when it comes out, it's a -1 sale from me.
Multiplayer games you play over a network.
Online games you play online.
Singleplayer games you either play offline without an internet connection or online, but not both at the same time.
I fail to understand EA.
They're a games publisher with a serious disliking of customers.
You want to earn money, do something for it.
As for C&C I've always looked forward to new C&C RTS titles till I got Generals.
That simply was not worthy of the C&C label.
C&C 3 was a good game.
I always thought of Red Alert being the best of the 2 series, but RA3 changed all that for me.
Having fond memories and dozens of hours of fun with both RA and RA2, RA3 was a huge disappointment.
It lacked the humor, fun and gameplay of RA and RA2.

red alert 3 had the humour but the gameplay was abit lacking thou i did like that you could build bases on water and not just land
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Kyllingen: The bigger worry is what happens if you have patchy connection and it drops out. How will that affect the single player game? Lose all progress ? Pause the game indefinetely until it establishes connection?
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Aliasalpha: And what happens when you want to play it in 2015 when they've shut those servers down? The only way would be for them to patch the update stuff out

Heh, don't worry about that. You'll be able to snag a copy with those "features" removed a few hours after the game is released!
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darthcobley: red alert 3 had the humour but the gameplay was abit lacking thou i did like that you could build bases on water and not just land

Building bases on the water was indeed a plus of that game and it's biggest too.
The humour was seriously less than that in it's predecessors.
The acting was worse too, with a clear emphasis on the female body.
Too bad as all 3 sides had great actors portraiting the leaders.
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darthcobley: red alert 3 had the humour but the gameplay was abit lacking thou i did like that you could build bases on water and not just land
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HertogJan: Building bases on the water was indeed a plus of that game and it's biggest too.
The humour was seriously less than that in it's predecessors.
The acting was worse too, with a clear emphasis on the female body.
Too bad as all 3 sides had great actors portraiting the leaders.

wasn't that the point that the acting was supposed to be terrible?
If the acting had to be terrible, then every actor from there deserves Oscar for such a great work, because the videos were very bad indeed.
Wasn't planning on buying it but this is even more of a reason to skip it. My internet randomly drops and this would be so frustrating it wouldn't be worth the hassle.
Post edited July 16, 2009 by Whiteblade999