Wishbone: Probably a bit of both. And also because people think that "the disc cases are too flimsy" is a ridiculously weak argument to back up a bold generalized statement like "consoles are pathetic".

Magmarock: Okay it looks like I'm going to have to clarify a few things since people seem to be taking what I said out of context.

tinyE: This console is anything but pathetic.

spindown: I feel like I lost a couple of IQ points from reading the OP.

Magmarock: Please let me be frank and disclose a few things.

I understand if this is preaching to the quire, but I still want to talk about. If you are still a console gamer yourself I have nothing against you personally only against the busyness model you subscribe to.

So I'm not going to go too much into the how the PS4 is just a better PS3 and pointless and I think everything has already been said about the Xbox one.

However, what I want to talk about it is the DVD cases of all things. I walked into EB games today and picked up one of the empty cases for the x box one and PS4 and I was surprised to find just how flimsy they are. I mean the 360 and PS3 cases were nothing special but it feels like a warm breath would melt these things. It makes me angry not just the fact that $99 games are sold in these things along with scratch insurance for an extra $5 but the fact that it displays the exact type of attitude this industry has for it's consumer.

I firmly believe that consoles are a waist of everybody's time and both the industry and the consumer base will benefit when these boxes that you plug into your TV to play games are a relic of the past like VHS.

That's my two cents and I just wanted to comment.

EDIT

Okay it looks like I'm going to have to clarify a few things since people seem to be taking what I said out of context.

So let me try again.

Yes I am complaining about the boxes that games came in; no I am not a trolling. I am also not talking about those consoles from over a decade ago so retro console fans you guys can relax.

I didn't bother going over the million other reason as to why I hate consoles so much because I didn't think I had to but now it looks like I might have to.

So what is a PS4 and what is an Xbox one.

To me a PS4 is just as slightly better PS3 what does it do that even remotely interesting or new. All Sony really did was sell it on the bases that's it's not as bad as the xbox. The systems themselves might be cheaper then a PC but a console gamers do not live a cheaper life. Studies have shown that console gamers spend far more money then PC gamers do. There is no master race nonsense here. Console gamers are being had that's all there is to it.

In today age consoles are like VHS and have no reason to exist at all. They are only regretted to work for a year and will probably break down before the new system is out. Exclusive are not a benefits to the consumer but to the manufacture of the console.

In short what is the point of spending so much money on a box to plug into a TV and can be dwarf by a half decent PC.

The main reason I talked about the DVD cases is because, I was surprised at just how cheep and these companies are and how many short cuts they will take.

PC games did come in flimsy card bored boxes yes, but that you held with things. They are more frail I'm telling you. Much like that box you call a console which will probably over heat and die before the new one comes out.

Magmarock: Okay when you charge $99 for a game put it into a case that doesn't protect it, and then charge for scratch protection, you don't think that's kind of a middle finger. Especially when you look at the plastic quality of the previous generations games. Point being, is that consoles, from their DRM to their over heating to even the cases that the DVD's come in can't be trusted.

Magmarock: ...

Neobr10: Why should i waste my time commenting on a failed trolling attempt when the following image sums up everything about this thread?

Magmarock: 360 was was around $600 with a 1 year warranty at first, long loading times and most games will last you around a five hours. Most of all had a faultily rate of over 60% yet people still kept buying it.

Neobr10: Why should i waste my time commenting on a failed trolling attempt when the following image sums up everything about this thread?

Fictionvision: The extra cost of a more powerful PC is erased fairly soon when you aren't paying $50 a year to play online and paying a good amount less for your games.

JohnnyDollar: Right, and despite what I've seen a lot of gamers say, you don't have to upgrade a pc 2 or 3 times a year, or once a year. Enthusiasts do that, but it isn't required. If you buy higher end hardware to begin with, then you can stretch that out over 3 to 5 years, or even longer depending on the hardware and the types of games you play.

spindown: I feel like I lost a couple of IQ points from reading the OP.