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Posted January 12, 2013
PC gaming is better in every way. Case closed.
Posted January 12, 2013
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Neobr10: The trade-off of being able to upgrade a PC is that it will eventually lose compability with old games due to technical differences.
Honestly the number of even marginally popular/important games not playable on Windows 7 is amazingly low, at least in my experience.
Posted January 12, 2013
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jefequeso: but it's many times more backwards compatible than, say, a Playstation 3.
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Neobr10: But how? Early PS3 models had full backwards compability with both PS1 and PS2 games, there's no way of going farther than that, since the PS1 was the fist console by Sony. All PS1, PS2 and PS3 games are guaranteed to work out of the box on any of these PS3 models. On PC compability with older games goes on a case-by-case basis.
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jefequeso: Or, I could use an emulator and play some Megaman or Legend of Zelda. Then maybe a different emulator for Donkey Kong 64, then maybe some Pitfall. Then maybe some Shadow Warrior. I can jump around between generations and even platforms with a few clicks. You can't do that to the same extent with a single console.
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Neobr10: But there are emulators for consoles too, and they're not even new. Heck, there were plenty of pirated CDs filled with NES and Master System games for PS1. The first Xbox became famous because of the many emulators and homebrew apps it could run. Heck, even the PSP has plenty of great emulators (it's a portable you can take it everywhere, which makes it even better than PC), not to mention that it runs PS1 games officialy through Sony's own emulator. Even my GC could play emulated N64 games. It's just useless to bring up the emulation argument.

If i had to choose the best device for emulators, i would certainly go with the PSP due to it's portable nature.

Even my Xperia Play phone has plenty of emulators for it (and it supports PS1 games natively).
Well, if that's true, it would certainly make it less of a PC advantage. I haven't ever had the desire to try emulating anything on console, since I wasn't aware that it was practical to do so. I guess this brings up another question... how thriving is the console modding scene?

As far as the Ps3 goes... I was under the impression that the Ps3 was actually fairly inconsistent when it came to backward compatibility. Some Ps2 games would work, some wouldn't. But I don't have any firsthand experience in that area.

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Neobr10: The trade-off of being able to upgrade a PC is that it will eventually lose compability with old games due to technical differences.
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StingingVelvet: Honestly the number of even marginally popular/important games not playable on Windows 7 is amazingly low, at least in my experience.
Same here. Between GOG and DosBox, it's uncommon for me to come across an older title that will not play.
Post edited January 13, 2013 by jefequeso
Posted January 13, 2013
The only things that make consoles a tenable proposition are the large number of exclusives.They are also cheaper and are a great option when you would just like to get your mind off something. Otherwise pc gaming is way better -
Post edited January 13, 2013 by Lionel212008
Posted January 13, 2013
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Navagon: We seem to be fairly close to a new generation of consoles so now is probably the worst time to get one.
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orcishgamer: No, they're cheap as hell now and the libraries are huge. Even the best titles are for sale used and dirt cheap, used controllers and third party doo-dads abound, there is no better time to take advantage of current gen than right now.

If you're in the US your gold sub will make your XBox 360 behave pretty much like a Roku box, PS3 will do many of the same things.

The best console at the launch of this gen was easily the PS2 for the same reasons (vast library of cheap titles, cheap hardware, ubiquitous peripherals, etc.).
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jefequeso: It's a matter of personal preference.
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orcishgamer: It doesn't even have to be a choice/preference, both platforms can be had for so cheap, consoles especially so just now, with more titles than anyone but a kid on permanent summer vacation could ever get through.

You might as well have both, there's literally no reason not to at this point.
That's certainly the most elegant way of doing things, unless you're short on cash or just don't really care about the other platforms. I've got a 360 and a Wii in the house, but I don't really touch them anymore (unless my fiancee and I are playing splitscreen Halo or something). Aside from a few exclusives that I'm jealous of (most of which are sadly on the Ps3 :P), I've got basically everything I want on PC. I recognize that consoles have a lot of advantages, but there aren't really any that I personally value, whereas most of the advantages I see on the PC are things that matter a lot to me.
Post edited January 13, 2013 by jefequeso
Posted January 13, 2013
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jefequeso: That's certainly the most elegant way of doing things, unless you're short on cash or just don't really care about the other platforms. I've got a 360 and a Wii in the house, but I don't really touch them anymore (unless my fiancee and I are playing splitscreen Halo or something). Aside from a few exclusives that I'm jealous of (most of which are sadly on the Ps3 :P), I've got basically everything I want on PC. I recognize that consoles have a lot of advantages, but there aren't really any that I personally value, whereas most of the advantages I see on the PC are things that matter a lot to me.
Yeah, I'm not really anti-console I just prefer PC and don't have enough free time to add a whole other system. I am often tempted to get a PS3 but then I would have 30 more games to play when I'm already 100 behind.
Posted January 13, 2013
Consoles will always be superior to PC's in one respect, just pop the disc in, download a small update an your good to go.
Posted January 13, 2013
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jefequeso: Well, if that's true, it would certainly make it less of a PC advantage. I haven't ever had the desire to try emulating anything on console, since I wasn't aware that it was practical to do so. I guess this brings up another question... how thriving is the console modding scene?

As far as the Ps3 goes... I was under the impression that the Ps3 was actually fairly inconsistent when it came to backward compatibility. Some Ps2 games would work, some wouldn't. But I don't have any firsthand experience in that area.
Console modding isn't as strong as it once was, but is still possible. The most popular is the 360 as there is a hardware hack that can be done to run unsigned code. The PS3 is blown wide open, but to do so you have to have a PS3 that has firmware 3.55 or lower. If your console once had that version, you can get a hardware flasher to go back to it. Newer PS3s are out of luck. Wii is about as easy to softmod as the Xbox 1 was.

The peak of the console modding scene was with the Xbox 1 imo. The number of homebrew programs, ease of modding, and ability to install a larger internal hard drive made it a great machine. Most of the emulators haven't been updated in years, but what is there is bigger than any other console, even the 360/PS3.

For the PS3, there are 3 levels of backwards compatibility I think. The original that had the full PS2 hardware in it, which are also the systems most prone to YLOD. The next one with only the PS2 GPU in it that has less compatibility as the PS2 CPU is emulated. Then no PS2 hardware.
Post edited January 13, 2013 by Fictionvision
Posted January 13, 2013
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jefequeso: Well, if that's true, it would certainly make it less of a PC advantage. I haven't ever had the desire to try emulating anything on console, since I wasn't aware that it was practical to do so. I guess this brings up another question... how thriving is the console modding scene?

As far as the Ps3 goes... I was under the impression that the Ps3 was actually fairly inconsistent when it came to backward compatibility. Some Ps2 games would work, some wouldn't. But I don't have any firsthand experience in that area.
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Fictionvision: Console modding isn't as strong as it once was, but is still possible. The most popular is the 360 as there is a hardware hack that can be done to run unsigned code. The PS3 is blown wide open, but to do so you have to have a PS3 that has firmware 3.55 or lower. If your console once had that version, you can get a hardware flasher to go back to it. Newer PS3s are out of luck. Wii is about as easy to softmod as the Xbox 1 was.

The peak of the console modding scene was with the Xbox 1 imo. The number of homebrew programs, ease of modding, and ability to install a larger internal hard drive made it a great machine. Most of the emulators haven't been updated in years, but what is there is bigger than any other console, even the 360/PS3.

For the PS3, there are 3 levels of backwards compatibility I think. The original that had the full PS2 hardware in it, which are also the systems most prone to YLOD. The next one with only the PS2 GPU in it that has less compatibility as the PS2 CPU is emulated. Then no PS2 hardware.
Huh. Interesting. This is obviously something I don't actually know very much about.
Posted January 13, 2013
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xy2345: Well, that comparison isn't quite fair.

Playing an old game from the mid 90s on your N64 equals playing an old mid 90s game on your Pentium with DOS 6.2 and Win 98 installed on it. Of course it will work. It's their native system.
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Neobr10: It is indeed fair. Just think about it. PCs are upgradeable, which means users are constantly changing it to meet the ever evolving system requirements. No one keeps old PCs around (or at least the majority doesn't). The same can't be said about consoles. They are not upgradeable, if you sell your old console and buy a new one you know that you will lose all the games that you have for it, unless it's backwards compatible.

The trade-off of being able to upgrade a PC is that it will eventually lose compability with old games due to technical differences.

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xy2345: try running your old N64 game on a Wii.
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Neobr10: But the N64 and the Wii are completely different systems, with different architectures and everything. They are NOT meant to be compatible. A Pentium with Windows 98 installed and a Core i7 with Windows 7 are both PCs, the Windows 7 is meant to be compatible with software written for older versions, at least in theory.
You can't upgrade a mid 90s PC to a todays PC. You could keep the housing, but you would need another mainboard, graphics card, RAM, hard drive and of course a stronger power supply unit. The technology that is used in PCs changes too over time. Generally speaking whenever you have to replace the mainboard, you're not upgrading anymore, you're building a new PC.

A Pentium is as far away form today's PCs as the N64 is from the Wii. The only difference is that Nintendo doesn't bother with backwards compatibility, while in the PC segment some people still do and try and make old software run on new technology.
Posted January 13, 2013
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jefequeso: Well, if that's true, it would certainly make it less of a PC advantage.
It is true. Any device has emulators nowadays, especially the ones that use Android.

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jefequeso: I haven't ever had the desire to try emulating anything on console, since I wasn't aware that it was practical to do so. I guess this brings up another question... how thriving is the console modding scene?
It depends on the console. The Xbox, the PSP and the Wii still have an active modding community.

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jefequeso: As far as the Ps3 goes... I was under the impression that the Ps3 was actually fairly inconsistent when it came to backward compatibility. Some Ps2 games would work, some wouldn't. But I don't have any firsthand experience in that area.
Backwards compability depends on which PS3 version you have. The old 60GB, 20GB and 80GB (early ones) phat models have full backwards compability through hardware (these PS3 models had the Emotion Engine chip on them) with both PS2 and PS1 games. Later 80GB and 40GB models have backwards compability through software, since the Emotion Engine was taken out to reduce the costs. In these models, every game works, but some of them might have a few issues, such as low framerates. This is the one i have. Then in later models backwards compability was removed completely.
Posted January 13, 2013
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scampywiak: PC gaming is better in every way. Case closed.
If u are a graphic freak,sure it is. Consoles are better budget deals,you don't have to upgrade every 6-12 months and u can still play all the new releases. For me personally consoles have better exclusives (freaking The Last of Us & Beyond Two Souls)
And don' t jump on me I play on both consoles & pc. For some games I even prefer my tablet over the PC(bad controls on the pc - try Rayman Origins for example)
Posted January 13, 2013
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F1ach: Consoles have more games that interest me and some great exclusive titles, I also like playing games from my couch on a WS TV as opposed to hunched over a keyboard.
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StingingVelvet: This kind of statement always annoys me. I am not hunched over anything, I am relaxed and reclined in a very comfortable chair. Also my monitor is more "HD" than any 1080p television and larger too, due to my close proximity to it. And I don't have to fight the wife, kids or company for the living room.
Well, I was talking about me, but I'm glad you are comfortable with your set up :)
Posted January 13, 2013
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F1ach: Well, I was talking about me, but I'm glad you are comfortable with your set up :)
Yes but it's how you present it, how so many others present it. You make it sound like playing a desk is the most horrible thing in the world.
Posted January 13, 2013
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F1ach: Well, I was talking about me, but I'm glad you are comfortable with your set up :)
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StingingVelvet: Yes but it's how you present it, how so many others present it. You make it sound like playing a desk is the most horrible thing in the world.
LOL, ok whatever :)
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