One benefit of a natural free market is it lets businesses die instead of rewarding bad practice.

Natural free market? Hahaha, nice utopia.

No, no. There is no perfect system. I'm just saying that is one aspect of an ideal that I think is better than the alternative of bailing out corporations and then lying about it. I think that the turn over would be better in the long run. What would you suggest?

Suggest? For what? A market system or how to deal with the current “crisis”? The latter would be pretty easy in theory.

Oh and don’t me wrong, I don’t think that a free market is a bad thing but rather that it’s an oxymoron. For me “free” implies “unrestricted” and where that leads to was shown during the Industrial Revolution.

He´s american

Ah, a Spaniard. How’s the revolution going, comrade :B ?

I think that happens... so not sure what you were trying to say here with that example.

Last financial disaster I've seen a lot of banks with bad practice that went the "capitalize profit, nationalize loss" road..... except for Lehman Brothers who had to take the bite, almost all of them are on the same road again, rewarding the same culprits even more then before.....

Socialism is a gentle and soft term for modern communism. European countries are willing to censorship the Internet, to tell the owners how to run their facilities. And even more: sugar production is centrally planned.

Soon we will probably have EU army, EU constitution. Just like USSR but without concentration camps (yet!)

For example: EU has forbid selling 100W lightbulbs. EU forbids selling old-fashioned kinescope TV's. EU is willing to force EU citizens to change their water taps, to water saving taps.

EU is taking the freedom away , step by step, making taxes go higher and social benefits also.

For example, EU forced Poland to change scholarship programme to the favor of social scholarships. There will be less scholarships for those who are good students, more for poor ones.

And in my country, government special forces took one guy to custody, because he ran a website where he stored many materials that was insulting to president.

It's not socialist nation. It's fucking communism.

Plus, everything that my collegue from Poland said before.

the problem is the society not the banks doing the same thing over and over again. it ain't gonna change in just few years.
how that relates to the socialism of EU i dunno...

just proves that our government are as stupid as they always were.

Exactly. One purpose of a stronger government should be to keep big business in check, however both government and big business have become bloated and work hand in hand to further each others agendas. I think we would be better off cutting down on regulation (and thus government) that has been ineffective so far and taking away the corporation's federal backing. We should actually enforce the monopoly and worker's rights laws we have instead of bogging down small and growing businesses while they get strong armed by the mega corporations.

Say what you want about Americans and gun crime but this is why Thomas Jefferson supported the right to keep and bear arms. It was a different time when a few armed men could stand up to the government but what choice do you have when soldiers come knocking at your door? It scares me because there are people who would take away my kid simply because I'm Christian. It was not that long ago when a Mormon camp was raided and their children held for days w/ out any evidence. I think those guys are cooky too but no government should have that power.

Commence bashing.
NOTE: I'm not in a militia and don't own a gun. I'm just commenting on how crimes seen in China are similiar to those in 18th century Federalist U.S. and recent US politics.

In most contries of EU insulting a president is a crime.

And more, I have read that in Australia they already censorhip the web, do they? In Sweden gov. may take your child when:
- you criticise them
- you have no refrigerator (or how it's spelled...) in the house
- you live in poor conditions
- you yelled at child in public.

Remember. In modern communism your child is NOT yours. It belongs to the society. Here's one for you: In Poland only 1 person out of 1 000 has a gun (not counting Policemen). In Switzerland AFAIK the numbers are about 300/1000

QFT

Dude, you are being paranoid. Sure, the EU has a lot of problems (a democracy deficit being on of them) but overall this is a good way. Equal rights for all citizens. And arguing that the light bulbs and water taps indicate a road to communism? Come on. What are you complaining about next? Not being able to buy a deodorant with HCFC? Digga, please ...

The allegation regarding the special forces incident could be serious though. I’d need more information though. An insult is against the law after all.

While we probably agree on the goals I think your proposition is not the way to go. MORE regulations (or how about properly enforcing the existing ones?) for corporations, less regulations for upstart businesses. But yeah, almost every government on this planet is probably corrupt as fuck.