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Posted June 04, 2014
All-new Witcher 3 gameplay trailer, pre-orders launch; GOG.com unveils GOG Galaxy, the DRM-Free Online Gaming platform!

All-new The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt gameplay footage, pre-order details, and a look at the exclusive content of the collector's edition. GOG.com unveils its upcoming new project taking a next step in the DRM-Free gaming revolution. All that and more in the CD Projekt RED & GOG.com Summer Conference. Watch it right here!
Post edited June 04, 2014 by G-Doc
Posted June 05, 2014
Any actual dates revealed when actual information will be revealed regarding GOG Galaxy? :P
Posted June 05, 2014
I just watched the presentation. So what's the story with the client, will it be open source or not? Will the API be open? If the API will be open and client will be closed source, community can create an alternative client at least.
Post edited June 05, 2014 by shmerl
Posted June 05, 2014
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Fallen_Zen: We're not forgetting Linux guys. We'll be giving more info later this year.
Galaxy is being done with PC, Mac and Linux in mind.
That's great. Do you plan to make it open source? If not, what about making an open API so community could create an alternative client?
Posted June 05, 2014
I noticed one apparent problem with 'GOG Galaxy': When they were talking about it auto-updating games and the host asked if there would be manual patching, it sounded like the GOG guy was saying that there wouldn't be patches, but that the latest version of the game would be downloadable. What does that mean, that if you don't want to use the client to update the games, you'll have to re-download the entire game every time it's updated? This is hardly unacceptable.

The main reason why I loathe steam, is that it forces the latest version of the game when you install it. This is based on the ignorant assumption that 'latest is always best'. This becomes a problem when a game patch ends up breaking something, and you can't roll back to the last working version. This happened in Skyrim, for example, and the game became unplayable for me for a whole patch cycle. If it had been a retail game, I could have simply reinstalled, and updated to the exact version I wanted.

This GOG system, if I'm understanding it right, would have the same problem unless they made each version of the game downloadable individually. If I install v1.3 of a game and realise it causes some kind of problem, will I be able to easily reinstall v1.2? Will it still be available if I didn't save a copy of the 1.2 installer? And I don't like the idea that I'd have to re-download the entire game instead of an incremental patch, just because I choose not to use the client.
Post edited June 05, 2014 by Oubadah
Posted June 05, 2014
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Oubadah: I noticed one apparent problem with 'GOG Galaxy': When they were talking about it auto-updating games and the host asked if there would be manual patching, it sounded like the GOG guy was saying that there wouldn't be patches, but that the latest version of the game would be downloadable. What does that mean, that if you don't want to use the client to update the games, you'll have to re-download the entire game every time it's updated? This is hardly unacceptable
Yes, that would be bad. Nothing prevents GOG from offering patches for download without the client to save time from those who already backed up the previous release.
Posted June 06, 2014
Vote for opening of the API and the protocol of the Galaxy client:
https://secure.gog.com/wishlist/site/document_the_protocol_and_api_of_the_galaxy_updater_client_to_enable_community_alternatives
Post edited June 06, 2014 by shmerl
Posted June 06, 2014
so it is a client. piotr you sneaky one.

the thing that I find most intriguing is the notion that you can play Steam client users with this. is that just for the witcher and the magic happens on your end or is that across the service for any game that supports Galaxy? is Galaxy just a subset or extension of Steam API? are Valve consulting with you on this? or did they sign off on it? this is something that I've wanted to happen but I never thought it would. this is pretty great for both the community. though, there is the fact that, in the latter case, ARMA could still exist now..

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skeletonbow: I'm not familiar with Original War, never heard of it. You could always call the game studio's 1-800 number and ask them though to avoid speculation.
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yyahoo: I have no speculation other than Bohemia is taking their toys and going to play with someone else.

My only suggestion was that the issue with Arma and multiplayer support couldn't have anything to do with why they are being removed from GOG because then at least they would have kept Original War here. Bohemia has other reasons for their actions.
yeah. Bohemia is taking ARMA and going steam exclusive. they could at least leave Original War here. but I guess then that wouldn't be as wonderfully exclusive then would it. or at least that is what you would probably hear.

buying ARMA is a tough sell right now.

oh well. still good stuff. now to check out the video.
Posted June 06, 2014
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JohnnyDollar: Maybe they want their games being sold to be fully functional? Original War has multiplayer too, I think. I assume the multiplayer works on Steam, but I don't know.
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skeletonbow: The GOG game card for Original War states "Multiplayer issue: multiplayer mode originally built into Original War game is no longer available. For details see: Support", so presumably it used Gamespy and that's probably why it's getting removed also.

Hopefully all of these Bohemia games get GOG Galaxy support later on and get re-added back to the catalogue.
Yeah, reading the game page I thought that perhaps that was the reason and that multiplayer is up and running on Steam. That is until I just read this post from Stucuk, OW's Maintainer.
Post edited June 06, 2014 by JohnnyDollar
Posted June 06, 2014
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Oubadah: I noticed one apparent problem with 'GOG Galaxy': When they were talking about it auto-updating games and the host asked if there would be manual patching, it sounded like the GOG guy was saying that there wouldn't be patches, but that the latest version of the game would be downloadable. What does that mean, that if you don't want to use the client to update the games, you'll have to re-download the entire game every time it's updated? This is hardly unacceptable
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shmerl: Yes, that would be bad. Nothing prevents GOG from offering patches for download without the client to save time from those who already backed up the previous release.
If you don't want to use the client to patch, I think what they are talking about is that you can use gog.com to download your files as normal. In most cases, currently, the game installers are updated to later versions without patches. Occasionally you do see a patch. This is probably not changing. It's not a gog galaxy issue, but a gog issue.
Posted June 06, 2014
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saluk: If you don't want to use the client to patch, I think what they are talking about is that you can use gog.com to download your files as normal. In most cases, currently, the game installers are updated to later versions without patches. Occasionally you do see a patch. This is probably not changing. It's not a gog galaxy issue, but a gog issue.
That's the point. Why should you download the whole merged updated version if delta would be enough for those who have the previous one backed up?

GOG can offer all of them - full versions and deltas without the client.
Posted June 06, 2014
Galaxy!

I've actually been wanting something like this from Gog.com!
Posted June 06, 2014
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Tychoxi: why not?? As long as it's made clear, I don't see the problem. Furthermore, it's not like AAA releases are not early access in all but name nowadays...
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Vainamoinen: wall'o'text
As appalling as Early Access is, I still want an alternative from GoG.
If only because there is lots of game being developed (from indies, sometimes also on KickStarter, ...) that only propose Early Access. No DRM-free version and such, Steam only.
Some do have a DRM-free option, but those that do offer alpha or beta as DRM-free (as opposed to EA) are very few and far between.

The way I see it, GoG could offer those devs another way to make their work known.
It doesn't to be Steam OR GoG for this, so if the devs can have both, more power to them.
Now though, it would seems there's a lot of abuse on EA, so GoG will just have to tighten the entry-point.
I don't know, something like not-ludicrous prices for a product than is not finished, having a properly working version (to some extent, of course)...

My main issue is that Steam's Early Access will continue to exist for a while, and that means some devs that don't know (or care) about DRM-free will be lured into that horrible ogre.
And even if they do know or care about DRM-free, they have an easier distribution system on EA than by themselves (more so if they're lazy... and I'm referring to some projects I saw on KS).

That's why I want a GoG equivalent of EA, the GoG-way of course, so devs don't get stuck in a one-way system (which I happen not to want to join as a gamer with principles).


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gamefood: Cool presentation guys! :)
In the video at 17:55 (ca.)... What stands on Guillaumes Tee? Can someone read? I can't read it, my PC s too weak ^^
You can download the FHD version (634MB for 02:22 !) here:
http://www.gamersyde.com/leech_32222_1_en.html
Post edited June 06, 2014 by Karboxyd
Posted June 06, 2014
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Oubadah: I noticed one apparent problem with 'GOG Galaxy': When they were talking about it auto-updating games and the host asked if there would be manual patching, it sounded like the GOG guy was saying that there wouldn't be patches, but that the latest version of the game would be downloadable. What does that mean
The guy says updates will always be optional, "Updates will never be forced onto you" are the exact words I heard.

This is great as often updates have a habit of breaking a persons saved games, especially if the games is freshly released.
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Mailanka: Galaxy!

I've actually been wanting something like this from Gog.com!
I agree
Post edited June 06, 2014 by Ebany
Posted June 06, 2014
GOG part was exciting. I can't wait to see GOG Galaxy! And signed for beta.
Posted June 06, 2014
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ThermioN: I have opened a support case with gog, asking them if they will offer an alternative to NWN.
I'll let you guys know if there's anything new.
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szparanGoG: Thanks! It would be great.
You will get a code to redeem. So, if you already own NWN, you can at least give to code to someone else.
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