The Trojan Horse was not built by Trojans. It was gifted to them by the Greeks outside.
The Greeks of the time didn't have so much the "city state" as the kingdoms. City states were "popular" a few centuries later. Yes, the Greeks of the time were not one state, but that doesn't really change anything. :)


Yes, and as I say, never trust anyone. Human or otherwise.

It's called a Trojan Horse, but it wasn't made by Trojans. :P

The Witcher 2 and Battle Worlds: Kronos both have automatic updaters. And guess what? You can still grab individual patches, and/or run the game unpatched.

You may be interested to know that UPlay currently goes that way. When running the game, if it detects a patch, it downloads it and offers to run it and/or save it. Then on the next run, if it detects a newer patch, it does the same. So for Assassin's Creed III, you end up with an installer and 6 patches, and 4 or 5 DLC installers. No automatic downloading of everything and keeping them up to date.

So, should GOG try to copy UPlay, or should it take the good parts and implement them as they should be implemented?


25 years. So 2014-25 = 1989. And you have no recollection of critical bugs that games were shipped with, that did require day one patching, but they ended up being month 6 patches, simply because there wasn't a method to distribute the files. Not to mention game breaking bugs, that the patch wasn't compatible with previous saves (Quest for Glory 4, I'm looking at you).

Why should I have to manually manage 100s of patches?

I hope for the client, GOG people don't listen again to the people who advised them on the previous "well received" changes.

2 days to go.

That depends on how many games you have. But right now, in order to conserve the essence of the DRM-Free movement, you need to install the patches or reinstall the game with the patches already done. However, on GOG, this is incredibly easy, download the patch, install it, delete the patch. That is literally all that is required. No configuration files, no temp files, nothing. And I still prefer this method to Steam.

Ooops... Sorry if I sounded more harsh than I wanted. Although the reply was made to your post, it was more related to the global trend of negativity you find on forums you find these days (GOG still being mostly a safe haven thanks to its great community - the people I may not agree with included obviously).

I 100% agree with you on the fact that you can have your point of view and I surely did not meant to say the opposite. My point is that maybe we should wait the announcement before being over-negative (once again, this does not specifically concerns your posts but is more a feeling after reading through the previous pages for this thread).

If the announcement is the "good" news that GOG will sell Steam keys, require UPlay, multiply its prices by 10 and ask our fingerprint to give access to new big releases like "Watch_not_running_on_PC_Dogs" or "Call_of_Beauty_10" (hum, ok, maybe this one will be interesting), I'll promise that I won't be the last to come with my pitchfork.

If a nice client game out I would be happy. keeping it drm free and the current system of course.

Will TW3 cost €44.99 ( $61.99 ) for the non russian EU customers ?

No problem :)

I thought he was referring to the time they announced GOG.com was closing down permanently. This turned out to be a PR stunt to get across the message that without DRM you could keep your installers no matter what. People weren't happy.

I think GOG's PR stunts have improved since then.

Since you yourself suspect some subjective bias, why not give it a try and see for yourself? You might as well like it. Of course if you didn't buy it yet it's some money, but GOG offers sales on the Witcher games and quite often you can get them very cheap.

Yes x 10000000000.

We don't need a client. Email works perfectly. And I honestly don't trust GOG coders with a client. Clients are *hard*. GOGs coders are obviously too incompetent/overworked to get their website working. I'm not going to install a client from them. But automatic email isn't that hard.

Actually, no one knows. The Trojan war is traditionally linked with the Troy IV site. The Greek in question were Mycenean, whose political structures are unknown. While a large state is clearly excluded, it's not clear whether they were organised in city states as classical Greeks were. Homer obviously transposed contemporary concepts into his story. As for Trojans, they appear to have been indo-europeans, their language thought to be close to Luwian (Hittite ). They might have been one of the "sea people" . Or, as some archeological finds suggest, link with Danubian / Carpathian bronze age settlements.