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Posted February 19, 2009
[url]http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/02/19/feline-way-avoid-nasty-eulas[/url]
Weird but might be legally binding
Posted February 19, 2009
I read about that a few days ago. Amusing, but not something that has any serious chance of holding up in court.
Posted February 19, 2009
Hmm, I think that this is cool. But what about the cat's rights? Also, I drop a coin on my mouse button, so the coin clicks on the mouse, instead of me. I also do not agree to anything.
Posted February 19, 2009
Something you own (cats aren't persons, they're just things) does something you instructed it to do... ahem, that's a very clear case.
Posted February 19, 2009
She seems like someone who likes cats so they should lock the cat up and see what she says then. It may not be completely legal but it could be funny.
Posted February 19, 2009
Most legal systems don't work on a "what the judge thinks will be funny" principle.
Perhaps they should :)
Posted February 19, 2009
It might not be legally binding, but I don't think that was the point. (Okay, after reading the original essay, it clearly wasn't the point at all.) But what about the implications for non-download software? After all, if you buy software in a box -- the fabled "Brik N. More-Tor" seems to be a common source -- you can't even see the EULA until you open the box, and if the terms are unacceptable, too bad. A lot of retailers won't accept opened returns. So why not return absurdity for absurdity by having your beloved pet accept the terms? Everyone's happy...ish.
Now, if your pet figures out how to work the computer on a more complex level, such as pirating software (with a cute little skull-and-crossbones hat to match), or typing in a very precise string of characters followed by delete -- THEN I'd worry.
Posted February 19, 2009
Well, there's always PawSense. :)
Posted February 19, 2009
I think the case of a lure here, causes the cat to be your own action.
However.
What about a more intelligent animal, like a bonobo to which in various parts of the world groups try and get recognised as a "Person". True, I'd need one of these guys handy each time I install something.
Posted February 19, 2009
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Calli: Now, if your pet figures out how to work the computer on a more complex level, such as pirating software (with a cute little skull-and-crossbones hat to match), or typing in a very precise string of characters followed by delete -- THEN I'd worry.

I'm just imagining a LOLcat with a pirate hat saying "I can haz torrentz?"
Posted February 20, 2009
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Aliasalpha: I'm just imagining a LOLcat with a pirate hat saying "I can haz torrentz?"

Arrr!
(wow this forum needs an image tag)
Posted February 20, 2009
EULAs don't have a legal status in all countries.
As far as I know at least in several European countries, among others The Netherlands where I live, they are not legally binding.
That's because they are in conflict with several laws protecting consumers.
Posted February 20, 2009
I don't think any end user would be found guilty of violating anything but the most obvious parts of a eula anyway, unless they got a twat of a judge. I suspect that they're written specifically to befuddle the average consumer and no sane person could expect someone to scan all the nuances of the agreement (which you don't see until after you pay for the product and usually can't return afterward) before installing something as basic as a game.
Posted February 20, 2009
They're written in such a way the publisher and developer can't be held liable for anything.
Based upon some sentences in the U.S. I heared about over the years I think you'll find such judges in the U.S.
If a woman in the U.S. can get millions of dollars from MacDonalds for burning herself on hot coffee see accidentally poured over her lap, I'm quite sure the same judge can confict you for violating a EULA.
Posted February 20, 2009
There have been several challenges to EULAs over the years, though I don't think there's been enough of them (or enough consistency in rulings) to create precedent. There was a big fuss a year or two back about a guy named Timothy Vernor who sold Autodesk's CAD software on eBay, and getting sued because the software wasn't his to sell because of the license. The judge ruled in Vernor's favor. Granted, that pertains more to the first sale doctrine, but if there was language in the EULA prohibiting resale, then that's clearly been shown invalid.
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