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Posted December 09, 2013
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nijuu: Skeletonbow is the new resident Bundlestars rep :P
LOL, no just a happy customer, quite satisfied with both the products and the service and support. :)

I give GOG good lip service as often as possible also, and am not on their payroll either. :)
Posted December 09, 2013
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skeletonbow: I give GOG good lip service as often as possible also, and am not on their payroll either. :)
O_o7
Posted December 09, 2013
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skeletonbow: I give GOG good lip service as often as possible also, and am not on their payroll either. :)
TMI
Posted December 09, 2013
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bundlestars: Bundle Stars does not engage in "illegal spamming", either in the one-year-old Facebook promotion you refer to, or in any way since. I'm sorry that we don't provide the kind of games that you personally prefer, and that you dislike Facebook, but please refrain from using slanderous accusations.
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jamyskis: Mentioning a veiled legal threat and that infamous Facebook stunt in the same sentence is not likely to get you taken seriously.

While not acting illegally, Bundle Stars/FHI is certainly a little overzealous in the way it promotes its site (on average two mails a week at last count), and that Facebook promotion still hangs over your reputation like a dark shadow - you'd do well to remember that.
Actually, in the US, where I live, companies are responsible for 3rd party spamming done on their behalf. So, they were causing the unsolicited commercial messages to go out. It's not like one of those optional campaigns where people can invite friends that might be interested.

Regardless of whether or not they are liable for fines under that CAN SPAM Act, it's pretty clear that they were in fact causing the spam messages to be sent on their behalf.

OTOH, if the requirement of sending out 10 spam invitations wasn't correct, they should get on the person that's claiming that it was a requirement as that's the individual that's arguably guilty of defamation.
Post edited December 10, 2013 by hedwards
Posted December 10, 2013
meh
Post edited December 10, 2013 by hedwards
Posted December 10, 2013
And they just create a GOG forum account just to reply...
Posted December 10, 2013
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hedwards: OTOH, if the requirement of sending out 10 spam invitations wasn't correct, they should get on the person that's claiming that it was a requirement as that's the individual that's arguably guilty of defamation.
That's the rub here, at least in terms of US law. Bundle Stars didn't spam within the meaning of the CAN SPAM Act because they requested permission beforehand, and it's applicability to public forums is dubious anyway. CAN SPAM is a shark without teeth in that regard. They did, however, post advertising to people's Facebook walls without permission or consent for everyone else to see, which led everyone else to believe that the users themselves were posting it.

Bundle Stars aren't guilty of spamming in the legal sense because advertising on Facebook is perfectly normal. But they have risked bringing private civil suits upon themselves for misappropriation.

(FWIW, Groupees are infamous for doing the very same thing, as they have pulled precisely the same stunt in the past - I can't tell if it still happens, because I blocked Groupees from posting on my behalf on Facebook)
Posted December 10, 2013
meh
Post edited December 10, 2013 by hedwards
Posted December 10, 2013
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hedwards: Either way, it's pretty clear that the people running the store don't have any scruples as evidenced by the posts they've made in here and the fact that they were requiring people to spam invites in order to join the alpha.
I joined the alpha, and neither did I spam any one, nor did anyone got spammed by me, so I am not sure where this requirement comes from...
Posted December 10, 2013
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hedwards: Either way, it's pretty clear that the people running the store don't have any scruples as evidenced by the posts they've made in here and the fact that they were requiring people to spam invites in order to join the alpha.
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amok: I joined the alpha, and neither did I spam any one, nor did anyone got spammed by me, so I am not sure where this requirement comes from...
You should fix your first post then to reflect that then. Which makes bundle stars' comments even more amusing seeing as they apparently don't have any problem with you posting that requirement.
Posted December 10, 2013
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amok: I joined the alpha, and neither did I spam any one, nor did anyone got spammed by me, so I am not sure where this requirement comes from...
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hedwards: You should fix your first post then to reflect that then. Which makes bundle stars' comments even more amusing seeing as they apparently don't have any problem with you posting that requirement.
I did... I edited in Nov 2012. It changed from needing to invite 10 friends to needing facebook only.

For the mention of needing facebook, , that was when it was in alpha, and it has moved on isnce then, and each bundle later has had its own thread. It was only the alpha/beta that needed it. Since there have been several thread since then, I never figured it was any point editing this as it was not in use anymore.
Posted December 10, 2013
meh
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Posted December 10, 2013
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amok: I did... I edited in Nov 2012. It changed from needing to invite 10 friends to needing facebook only.

For the mention of needing facebook, , that was when it was in alpha, and it has moved on isnce then, and each bundle later has had its own thread. It was only the alpha/beta that needed it. Since there have been several thread since then, I never figured it was any point editing this as it was not in use anymore.
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hedwards: The point is that as it reads now, that it required 10 invitations to be submitted in order to join. Which is spamming and apparently Bundle stars has no issue with people saying that they required spamming as long as they don't use the word "spam" when they do it.

Anyways, I've got better things to do with my time than to continue this thread. It's rather ironic that rather than just state that they never required people to issue invitations to people who hadn't opted to receive them which would have more or less settled it, they stooped to the level of issuing an idle legal threat and causing this to go on for nearly an additional page.
Considering that from what I have seen in this thread, the continuation is you rushing in making some wild accusations based on a 1 year old forum post when they still where in beta/alpha stages without even bothering to find out if they still do this (and part of what you accuse them of is edited in that same forum post)... Yeah, I think it is best if you do not continue the tread also.
Posted December 10, 2013
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amok: Considering that from what I have seen in this thread, the continuation is you rushing in making some wild accusations based on a 1 year old forum post when they still where in beta/alpha stages without even bothering to find out if they still do this (and part of what you accuse them of is edited in that same forum post)... Yeah, I think it is best if you do not continue the tread also.
Unfrounded accusations? They could have ended the thing by explaining how I had misunderstood the promo. And considering that you're the one that made the initial statement that they were requiring the spamming, I fail to see why I'm the one they take umbrage with. You're the one that said they were spamming, the fact that you didn't use the term is really not relevant.
Post edited December 10, 2013 by hedwards
Posted December 10, 2013
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amok: Considering that from what I have seen in this thread, the continuation is you rushing in making some wild accusations based on a 1 year old forum post when they still where in beta/alpha stages without even bothering to find out if they still do this (and part of what you accuse them of is edited in that same forum post)... Yeah, I think it is best if you do not continue the tread also.
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hedwards: Unfrounded accusations? They could have ended the thing by explaining how I had misunderstood the promo. And considering that you're the one that made the initial statement that they were requiring the spamming, I fail to see why I'm the one they take umbrage with.
please... point to the point in that post where it says you need to spam 10 friends...
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