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General discussion (archive)Breaking News!! : Fallout 3 is Game of the Year!!(46 posts)(46 posts)
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Posted November 01, 2009
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anjohl: ...nostalgic fans who would rather bitch and moan than play an amazing game.
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Strix: Except it was not an amazing game - it was a boring one that has little depth. :p

I think I see your problem if you missed the depth of the world they made.
Posted November 01, 2009
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Syme: I think I see your problem if you missed the depth of the world they made.

Yeah really. It's hard for many to seperate nostalgia from rational discourse. It's too bad.
Posted November 01, 2009
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Syme: I think I see your problem if you missed the depth of the world they made.
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anjohl: Yeah really. It's hard for many to seperate nostalgia from rational discourse. It's too bad.

Fallout 3 was really really really really good. Sadly some people just have to go on about how it's not like FO1 or FO2. Well it's not SUPPOSED TO BE COMPARED TO THEM. It's a whole different kind of RPG.
Posted November 01, 2009
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anjohl: Fallout 3 *was* the objectively best game for 2008....but how is it even being nominated for 2009? I think sites avoided giving it it's proper trophy due to the split between fans of GOOD GAMES, and nostalgic fans who would rather bitch and moan than play an amazing game.

It had, objectively, the most nonsensical and worst ending of all time. I don't have the DLC, so that doesn't change anything about the ending I experienced.
*ending spoilers for vanilla Fallout 3*
Anything that requires a deus ex machina to actually KILL the player is horrible. I had a super mutant with me, but for some reason I couldn't ask HIM to go into the radiation filled chamber that he was immune to. I also took around 10 doses of Rad-X before I went in, so my radiation went up by about 1 point per second, which definitely shouldn't have been lethal. But, no, apparently the Fallout gods want me to die without reason.
Post edited November 01, 2009 by PoSSeSSeDCoW
Posted November 01, 2009
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anjohl: Fallout 3 *was* the objectively best game for 2008....but how is it even being nominated for 2009? I think sites avoided giving it it's proper trophy due to the split between fans of GOOD GAMES, and nostalgic fans who would rather bitch and moan than play an amazing game.
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: It had, objectively, the most nonsensical and worst ending of all time. I don't have the DLC, so that doesn't change anything about the ending I experienced.
*ending spoilers for vanilla Fallout 3*
Anything that requires a deus ex machina to actually KILL the player is horrible. I had a super mutant with me, but for some reason I couldn't ask HIM to go into the radiation filled chamber that he was immune to. I also took around 10 doses of Rad-X before I went in, so my radiation went up by about 1 point per second, which definitely shouldn't have been lethal. But, no, apparently the Fallout gods want me to die without reason.

I rarely give a rats ass about storylines in games, I actually prefer games that allow you to skip cutscenes. If I wanted to watch a movie, I would rent a movie.
Posted November 01, 2009
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: I had a super mutant with me, but for some reason I couldn't ask HIM to go into the radiation filled chamber that he was immune to. I also took around 10 doses of Rad-X before I went in, so my radiation went up by about 1 point per second, which definitely shouldn't have been lethal. But, no, apparently the Fallout gods want me to die without reason.

I did exactly the same thing thinking I was clever for letting the Super Mutant do it as he was IMMUNE. No such luck as that led me to the bad ending. At least they fixed it with Broken Steel.
Posted November 01, 2009
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anjohl: I rarely give a rats ass about storylines in games, I actually prefer games that allow you to skip cutscenes. If I wanted to watch a movie, I would rent a movie.

If you dismiss the story of all games, then I'm forced to consider you unable to objectively say which game was the game of the year.
Posted November 01, 2009
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PoSSeSSeDCoW: If you dismiss the story of all games, then I'm forced to consider you unable to objectively say which game was the game of the year.

Whaaaat? Game of the year voting isn't based on shiny graphics and hype?
/sarcasm
Posted November 01, 2009
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anjohl: Yeah really. It's hard for many to seperate nostalgia from rational discourse. It's too bad.

Or, you know, some people might dislike the game not because of nostalgia for FO1/2, but simply because they didn't like the game. Crazy thought, I know, but it might just be possible. I can't really weigh in on the matter myself as I haven't played FO3 yet (the large number of reported bugs kept me away when it first came out), but I can say that while claiming the game was bad simply because it wasn't a clone of FO1/2 is rather silly, claiming that anyone who dislikes the game only dislikes it because of nostalgia for FO1/2 is equally silly. The lack of rational discourse cuts both ways.
Posted November 01, 2009
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Syme: I think I see your problem if you missed the depth of the world they made.

OR maybe I thought that it was not enough?Did you ever consider that people might actually not like the game on its own merits -or lack there of- in addition to the fact that it's not a Fallout game?
Posted November 01, 2009
Have yet to play it -- waiting on this and Arkham Asylum to go on a decent sale before I do.
Posted November 01, 2009
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Syme: I think I see your problem if you missed the depth of the world they made.
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Strix: OR maybe I thought that it was not enough?Did you ever consider that people might actually not like the game on its own merits -or lack there of- in addition to the fact that it's not a Fallout game?

Yes, I do consider that. And it is also apparent that the world could not possibly be deep enough for you to like the game. If you don't like the game, that is fine. But if you say it lacks depth, you either didn't pay attention, or you are being willfully blind.
As for the claim that it's not a Fallout game, I'm not about to get into arguing against your proprietary definitions.
Posted November 01, 2009
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Syme: But if you say it lacks depth, you either didn't pay attention, or you are being willfully blind.

Or I did not think it had enough depth.
Posted November 01, 2009
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Syme: If you don't like the game, that is fine. But if you say it lacks depth, you either didn't pay attention, or you are being willfully blind.

Or perhaps people have different standards for what they consider depth? Really now, this is just getting childish. Someone didn't care much for a game that you liked. Get over it. Same goes for those that disliked the game.
Posted November 01, 2009
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DarrkPhoenix: Someone didn't care much for a game that you liked. Get over it.

That's not the issue I am actually concerned about. But I agree it's best to drop the whole thing at this point.
Post edited November 01, 2009 by Syme
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