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Posted February 25, 2014
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Enebias: As I stated in another thread, I will NOT boycott GoG, as they are no worse than any other digital distribution site. They are still DRM-free and their support remain excellent, though their last move has undoubtably been a bad one. I will simply avoid the regional priced games they offer until they charge no more than the same US price plus 22% (italian VAT).
Hopefully, those won't include games in the old catalog.
But still, do you trust more a known delinquent or a fake honest.
Not having other drm-free store doesn't mean that it's right to settle for the lesser evil when there's a chance to show them that it's not worth to follow that path. Otherwise the only choice is to continue to settle over and over for something less every time.
Posted February 25, 2014
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My last post was kind of childish so let me elaborate. I think throwing out a term like 'boycott' in this instance is extremely careless if for no other reason that GOG isn't forcing anyone to go along with this. If you don't like their prices then shop somewhere else and be happy with the fact that you can shop somewhere else. Also lets not forget that gaming is a luxury, one many of us (like myself) are addicted to, but still just a luxury. When I think 'boycott' I think life and death, human rights, global conflict, oppression.....not video gaming.
Posted February 25, 2014
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cmdr_flashheart: No, GOG didn't invent, nor introduce, regional pricing into the world.

As to the success of the game, the vocal minority always makes something seem like a bigger problem that it is, so who knows.
It is fair to criticize GOG for accepting to sell a game with regional pricing, specially with a $=€ policy. They can of course not be blamed for the developer to choose that pricing model, but they can be blamed buying into it.

As for the success, of course nobody really knows. However, I feel that people who would buy this are 1) fans of the old games, which happen to be the vocal minority for the most part, and 2) people who want their strategy fix with fancy graphics now, and typically this second type don't give a shit about DRM and will buy on their usual/cheapest store.

I bought Omerta on relase (or preorder maybe? can't remember) to support the coming of new releases to GOG. When I did, I didn't do it with this kind of release in mind, but then again that's just me.
Posted February 25, 2014
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Grargar: unless they try some funny shit like regionally restricting gift codes.
Won't take long. Age of Wonders 3 is 16.99 for Russians. It's destined to be abused...
Posted February 25, 2014
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Grargar: unless they try some funny shit like regionally restricting gift codes.
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real.geizterfahr: Won't take long. Age of Wonders 3 is 16.99 for Russians. It's destined to be abused...
And it should be abused by people.
Just checked he game price in China and its 40$. If that the fair regional pricing then I fully support "abuse" on users part.
Posted February 25, 2014
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MIK0: But still, do you trust more a known delinquent or a fake honest.
Not having other drm-free store doesn't mean that it's right to settle for the lesser evil when there's a chance to show them that it's not worth to follow that path. Otherwise the only choice is to continue to settle over and over for something less every time.
See my post just above (no.14)! :)
I really don't belive GoG has just "turned evil" in half a day: anybody needs to make compromises to survive. Maybe I'm wrong and I'm just swayed by their past exemplary behavior or infected by some kind of misplaced fanboyism; I'm just saying that, while I don't excuse their choice, I understand it. If I was GoG, I would have probably done the same, given the proper conditions: I'm sure regional pricing couldn't be avoided forever, anyway.

Edit -Message to anyone- Remember: it's not GoG that states the prices, but the right owners.
Post edited February 25, 2014 by Enebias
Posted February 25, 2014
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Enebias: While it's true that it was their choice, I'm not sure on how much free it was. Competition nowdays is unmerciful, and one has to adapt or "die". I really cannot blame them... but neither I will accept this kind of treatment just because I'm European. The blame should be on developers/publishers, not on GoG.
No, I put the blame on GOG here, because as far as I'm concerned they're basically giving up.

Competition is unmerciful, yes. Adapt or die, yes. However, giving up your niche and homogenizing rarely gives results.

Let's compare it to games, as I've done before and we should all know about it. How many games (franchises) have you seen ruined on the search for the wider audience, or copying the popular COD, only to discover (and fail) that COD fans play COD instead of playing games that look like COD? I really see the same thought process in play here.
Posted February 25, 2014
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Grargar: unless they try some funny shit like regionally restricting gift codes.
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real.geizterfahr: Won't take long. Age of Wonders 3 is 16.99 for Russians. It's destined to be abused...
The game is not region-locked on Steam, so I doubt it will be locked here.
Posted February 25, 2014
Don't think of it as a boycott. Think of it as me saving money in the foreseeable future and being genuinely thankful for it.
Posted February 25, 2014
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danteveli: ...
In your case: Heck, yes, "abuse" the shit out of it! 40 bucks in China sounds terribly wrong. But that's not the kind of abuse that I'm talking about... I'm talking about "smart" people who'll buy 20, 30, 40 keys, just to resell them for 20 bucks each. As a store you have to deal with them. And the easiest way to do this, are "Russia only" keys.
Posted February 25, 2014
I am so not boycotting GOG. That's just ridiculous. If you don't want the game, don't buy the game. If you don't want to shop here, go shop at the other DRM-free sites that cater to your needs. After all, there are so many, right?

This is a STORE. It is a BUSINESS. It is not a clubhouse and it does not belong to you or to me. It operates to compensate and enrich its owners who, as it happens, appear to be pretty hard-core in their dedication to reason, good business practice, openness, the cool side of gaming, and generous pricing. It is staffed by people who deserve to be paid for their time and efforts. They do not manufacture or own most of what they sell, so they don't get to make up magic prices or random rules about how everything gets sold.

And they do a damn fine job of it, if you ask me.
Posted February 25, 2014
I think boycott is overkill, however an informed store decision is not out of the question. HGiles had a really good suggestion on this http://www.gog.com/forum/general/announcement_big_preorders_launch_day_releases_coming/post3753
Posted February 25, 2014
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tinyE: My last post was kind of childish so let me elaborate. I think throwing out a term like 'boycott' in this instance is extremely careless if for no other reason that GOG isn't forcing anyone to go along with this. If you don't like their prices then shop somewhere else and be happy with the fact that you can shop somewhere else. Also lets not forget that gaming is a luxury, one many of us (like myself) are addicted to, but still just a luxury. When I think 'boycott' I think life and death, human rights, global conflict, oppression.....not video gaming.
Actually, a boycott hurts a company's bottom line, so it's exactly the sort of protest suitable for actions of a store. If it's human rights, life and death, oppression... you start writing politicians, take part in street protests, engage in acts of civil disobedience, go to court...
Posted February 25, 2014
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Ghildrean: The game is not region-locked on Steam, so I doubt it will be locked here.
Remember when Fallout Trilogy was free? People stocked up on gift keys and sold them. Didn't take long for GOG to invalidate them.
Posted February 25, 2014
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cmdr_flashheart: No, GOG didn't invent, nor introduce, regional pricing into the world.

As to the success of the game, the vocal minority always makes something seem like a bigger problem that it is, so who knows.
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P1na: It is fair to criticize GOG for accepting to sell a game with regional pricing, specially with a $=€ policy. They can of course not be blamed for the developer to choose that pricing model, but they can be blamed buying into it.

As for the success, of course nobody really knows. However, I feel that people who would buy this are 1) fans of the old games, which happen to be the vocal minority for the most part, and 2) people who want their strategy fix with fancy graphics now, and typically this second type don't give a shit about DRM and will buy on their usual/cheapest store.

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No, it isn't- when you're in a playing field and a bunch of other players have made the rules, you're not personally responsible for their behavior; please don't contort my analogy to talk about some ethical or moral dilemma, like with racism, that would be a bad comparison since we're talking about a non-human rights issue here :]

I disagree with your analysis about the game because I think it's a bad idea to buy a DRM version when there is a DRM-free one available, but whatever- time will tell. All we can do is watch the show.

e: for one thing, please let's not be inconsiderate of those who want such games here, but DRM-free.
Post edited February 25, 2014 by cmdr_flashheart
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