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Posted November 26, 2011
Borg: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Borg
Daleks: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Dalek
Who would win in a space battle in terms of weapons, ships, and personnel?
Posted November 27, 2011
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jdyer1012: Borg: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Borg
Daleks: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Dalek
Who would win in a space battle in terms of weapons, ships, and personnel?
Well, that would depend on what period and which group you're talking about, right? You've got the original TNG Borg, Lore's emotional Hate Borg (with their massively overpowered transwarp ship), and the movie/VOY-Borg led by the Borg Queen.

For Daleks, you've got a whole bunch of different types, including the rebel Daleks and the Special Weapons Daleks, from Classic Who, not to mention Steven Moffat's "Power Ranger/iDalek" Daleks from Season 5.

FWIW, I think the Time War/Cult of Skaaro Daleks are about as ridiculously overpowered as any movie baddie gets.
Posted November 27, 2011
The cybermen are more borg-like, really. I would go as far as to say the borg are kind of a rip-off of the cybermen. Who would win between them? Borg, easy... much stonger weaponry and technology.

The daleks... well... probably the borg again, honestly. Tougher ships, they can adapt to the dalek weaponry. It's not really much of a contest honestly. Imagine the Doctor fighting borg, an enemy that doesn't hang out waiting for him to do something amazing... wouldn't turn out well. The Doctor's enemies are kind of tailored to his style.
Posted November 27, 2011
But can they adapt to the PLUNGER?

Anything going to war with a plunger has to win.
Posted November 27, 2011
I would assume at least one or two Daleks would end up assimilated and then the borg would know how to defeat them.
Posted November 27, 2011
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jdyer1012: Borg: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Borg
Daleks: http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Dalek
Who would win in a space battle in terms of weapons, ships, and personnel?
The Tardis wiki lists the "VULNERABILITIES" of Daleks. It just happens that the Borgs have weapons and technologies that target those exact vulnerabilities. (i.e., Borgs have high-powered energy and sonic beam weapons, have technologies that create extreme temperatures and time vortex.)

And I do not see Daleks have anything that can target any particular "vulnerability" of the Borgs. I do not even think the Borgs have a vulnerability. Do the Borgs even have any vulnerability?

Seriously, Daleks would not even stand a chance. Seriously, the Borgs are way out of Daleks' league.
Post edited November 27, 2011 by ktchong
Posted November 27, 2011
Never watched Dr. Who, but borgs seem to generally look... well, cooler.
Posted November 27, 2011
Daleks would win as they are great fighters except the old models where stairs stopped them in their tracks. The borg trying to assimulate the daleks not a chance.

If Dr Who cant erradicate his old enemy nothing will.
Posted November 27, 2011
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aluinie: Daleks would win as they are great fighters except the old models where stairs stopped them in their tracks. The borg trying to assimulate the daleks not a chance.

If Dr Who cant erradicate his old enemy nothing will.
I agree. Daleks would win.
Post edited November 27, 2011 by macuahuitlgog
Posted November 27, 2011
Those dalek weaknesses are listed in old models, those new models of daleks (like Power Rangers Daleks) dont have those weaknesses. Hell they maybe dont have ANY weakness...and daleks are cooler :D
Posted November 27, 2011
Following the canon of both shows... the Borg have more numbers and the ability to assimilate all technology...

they can also rapidaly adapt to all beam weapons and any threat posed to them...

in essence all vulnerability are fixed... that is unless the borg queen is ever killed then the borg become small groups based off there local kings until a new queen is found and unable to speak with each other...

but the queen is highly guarded... and i doubt the dialeks would even survive long enough to learn of the queen...
Posted November 27, 2011
daleks are masters of time second only to time lords.
although borg can travel through time it is very difficult for them and they have limited ability to actually manipulate the time.

Daleks would wipe borg out of reality with simple time travel and borg cannot defend or assimilate that.

then again. if they do get on dalek ship and manage to assimilate their time travel technology it won't as easy for daleks. yet borg assimilation technology is not perfect. Something completely unknown to them is incapable of assimilation unless they put a lot of effort (read: time) into it. Even with dalek assimilated ship I would bet that they would not be able to use Daleks technology to full extent for quite long period of time.
Posted November 27, 2011
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lukaszthegreat: daleks are masters of time second only to time lords.
although borg can travel through time it is very difficult for them and they have limited ability to actually manipulate the time.

Daleks would wipe borg out of reality with simple time travel and borg cannot defend or assimilate that.

then again. if they do get on dalek ship and manage to assimilate their time travel technology it won't as easy for daleks. yet borg assimilation technology is not perfect. Something completely unknown to them is incapable of assimilation unless they put a lot of effort (read: time) into it. Even with dalek assimilated ship I would bet that they would not be able to use Daleks technology to full extent for quite long period of time.
The Daleks wouldn't let the Borg assimilate their time travel technology if there was a war between the two.

But there would be no war. The second the Daleks and the Borg encounter each other, the Daleks would go back in time, when the Borg were flawed and weak, and then exterminate them. Game over. The Borg would only be able to stand up against the Daleks if the doctor helps them but the doctor would never help the Borg.
Post edited November 27, 2011 by macuahuitlgog
Posted November 27, 2011
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lukaszthegreat: daleks are masters of time second only to time lords.
although borg can travel through time it is very difficult for them and they have limited ability to actually manipulate the time.

Daleks would wipe borg out of reality with simple time travel and borg cannot defend or assimilate that.

then again. if they do get on dalek ship and manage to assimilate their time travel technology it won't as easy for daleks. yet borg assimilation technology is not perfect. Something completely unknown to them is incapable of assimilation unless they put a lot of effort (read: time) into it. Even with dalek assimilated ship I would bet that they would not be able to use Daleks technology to full extent for quite long period of time.
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macuahuitlgog: The Daleks wouldn't let the Borg assimilate their time travel technology if there was a war between the two.

But there would be no war. The second the Daleks and the Borg encounter each other, the Daleks would go back in time, when the Borg were flawed and weak, and then exterminate them. Game over. The Borg would only be able to stand up against the Daleks if the doctor helps them but the doctor would never help the Borg.
A borg beams up countless drones on a dalek ship who would simply overpower after a while daleks inside and will give them time to start learning daleks tech. dalek won't timejump the first second they meet borg.
Posted November 27, 2011
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