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Posted July 15, 2013
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hedwards: So, I'm not really sure why taking an offer that seems to be too good to be true is somehow wrong.
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Neobr10: Because it's not an offer, it's a mistake. If you tried to buy it at 1 cent, fine, even though i'm not morally ok with it. The problem here is to seriously expect a store to honor this "deal" and get pissed about it.
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hedwards: What does honor have to do with this? Corporations take advantage of consumers all the time, they set up their stores and websites to fleece the unsuspecting customer.
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Neobr10: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_make_a_right
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Gonadius: I'd say it was far more honourable to not take advantage of a blatant error.
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Neobr10: Haha, it's funny to see he mention honor while defending taking advantage of an obvious mistake. Hypocrysy, really.
I'M NOT DEFENDING TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OBVIOUS MISTAKES, you twit. LEARN HOW TO READ.
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teshra: ...
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Neobr10: LOL. This, exactly.
Yeah, I should make good by giving Kabuto, a million dollars, cash, a new car and a video of myself on my knees begging for forgiveness because I accidentally raged at him. I said sorry. I meant it and that is enough.

Let's see how many other idiots crawl out of their holes to give me some butthurt replies...
Post edited July 15, 2013 by langurmonkey
Posted July 15, 2013
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Neobr10: Because it's not an offer, it's a mistake. If you tried to buy it at 1 cent, fine, even though i'm not morally ok with it. The problem here is to seriously expect a store to honor this "deal" and get pissed about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_make_a_right

Haha, it's funny to see he mention honor while defending taking advantage of an obvious mistake. Hypocrysy, really.
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langurmonkey: I'M NOT DEFENDING TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OBVIOUS MISTAKES, you twit. LEARN HOW TO READ.
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Neobr10: LOL. This, exactly.
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langurmonkey: Yeah, I should make good by giving Kabuto, a million dollars, cash, a new car and a video of myself on my knees begging for forgiveness because I accidentally raged at him. I said sorry. I meant it and that is enough.

Let's see how many other idiots crawl out of their holes to give me some butthurt replies...
Butthurt.


EDIT : Oh, just found an interesting point.
So you can say sorry but best buy can't?
Well you might pointing out some laws about deal and stuff so...so....
Well you might hurt his feeling and who knows he's not going to shows up in this community and stuff so...so....

Just because people made mistake, doesn't meant you can't.
Maybe it's that they want to make clear.
Post edited July 15, 2013 by varthshenon
Posted July 15, 2013
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langurmonkey: I'M NOT DEFENDING TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OBVIOUS MISTAKES, you twit. LEARN HOW TO READ.

Yeah, I should make good by giving Kabuto, a million dollars, cash, a new car and a video of myself on my knees begging for forgiveness because I accidentally raged at him. I said sorry. I meant it and that is enough.

Let's see how many other idiots crawl out of their holes to give me some butthurt replies...
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varthshenon: Butthurt.
Why? Did I ever say, buying a 1 cent game when it is obviously a mistake is not a bad thing? Why does attacking Best Buy for having no responsibility automatically make ME the leader of the take advantage of all obvious mistakes movement...

Yeah I can just say "SORRY". You know why? It's really simple. I didn't make a deal with Kabuto. I never said, he could have this game for 1 cent, then took his money, then later said, Sorry, you can't have the game.
Post edited July 15, 2013 by langurmonkey
Posted July 15, 2013
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Gonadius: I'd say it was far more honourable to not take advantage of a blatant error.
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hedwards: What does honor have to do with this? Corporations take advantage of consumers all the time, they set up their stores and websites to fleece the unsuspecting customer.
Because his foul-mouthed rant was about how his personal honour would demand that they honour the deal they promised via an idiot mistake.

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hedwards: So, I'm not really sure why taking an offer that seems to be too good to be true is somehow wrong.
I'll quote you a bit from a fantasy book (Waylander by David Gemmell) I re-read a few days ago:

"In a merchant's shop, the merchant gives you too many coins in change. You keep the coins, marvelling at your good fortune. But when you have gone he realises his mistake and is angry, both with himself and with you. So the next man who comes into the shop he cheats, to gain back his money. This man in turn realises later and he is angry, and perhaps takes out his anger on someone else. So the tide goes out, each wave affecting more and more people".
So by people taking advantage of an error, they are forcing price rises to cover the loses, leading to more people thinking its alright to take advantage of the company as its greedy, leading to more bad feeling on both sides.
Post edited July 15, 2013 by Gonadius
Posted July 15, 2013
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stoicsentry: Yep.
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langurmonkey: Coming from an idiot who can barely read, who has no understanding of personal responsibility or honor or anything that makes a person, a decent person and not a sack of shit, I should take this as a compliment. How many times, must I tell you. It's not about the game. It's about people keeping their word. It's about living in a world, where people don't just unleash diarrhea out of their mouths
Right, because unlike Best Buy, your words contain no diarrhea.

Most likely another butthurt post followed by asking your friends to continue downreping me. :)
I don't have any friends here. They're downrepping you because you're acting like an idiot, not because they're my friends. #TrueFacts
Post edited July 15, 2013 by stoicsentry
Posted July 15, 2013
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varthshenon: SNIP
Whether or not he dropped the wallet on purpose, you're still legally obligated to turn it in to the police. Whereas a shop that offers the wrong price is required to honor it until it's been changed.

What's more, BB confirmed the price.
Posted July 15, 2013
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varthshenon: Butthurt.
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langurmonkey: Why? Did I ever say, buying a 1 cent game when it is obviously a mistake is not a bad thing? Why does attacking Best Buy for having no responsibility automatically make ME the leader of take advantage of all obvious mistakes movement...
See? I'm just saying butthurt and you see it as a "hatred" post to you.
Dude/Mr./Lady/etc., chill out. I'm not against you neither with you. I don't even give a fuck about these hatred thread.
"Then why you bother to post here?" because it's fun. I can get no fun here, no? Then why these people can hate each other?
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Smiley so you can clearly see that I'm not jerking you off.
Posted July 15, 2013
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langurmonkey: Coming from an idiot who can barely read, who has no understanding of personal responsibility or honor or anything that makes a person, a decent person and not a sack of shit, I should take this as a compliment. How many times, must I tell you. It's not about the game. It's about people keeping their word. It's about living in a world, where people don't just unleash diarrhea out of their mouths
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stoicsentry: Right, because unlike Best Buy, your words contain no diarrhea.

Most likely another butthurt post followed by asking your friends to continue downreping me. :)
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stoicsentry: I don't have any friends here. They're downrepping you because you're acting like an idiot, not because they're my friends. #TrueFacts
No my words are real unlike yours. I'm not a bullshitting sack of shit like you. If I tell someone, I will do something. I do it. If I make a deal with someone. I honor that deal even if I fucked up and the deal will hurt me badly. Nobody said being a responsible adult is easy. Sometimes it means you have to suffer time to time... People don't choose the honorable path because it is the easy path...
Post edited July 15, 2013 by langurmonkey
Posted July 15, 2013
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varthshenon: Butthurt.
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langurmonkey: Why? Did I ever say, buying a 1 cent game when it is obviously a mistake is not a bad thing? Why does attacking Best Buy for having no responsibility automatically make ME the leader of the take advantage of all obvious mistakes movement...

Yeah I can just say "SORRY". You know why? It's really simple. I didn't make a deal with Kabuto. I never said, he could have this game for 1 cent, then took his money, then later said, Sorry, you can't have the game.
Oh so this is all about the money? Okay I get it.
The rest, I have no idea where my post stating that you're like what you posted.
Posted July 15, 2013
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hedwards: So, I'm not really sure why taking an offer that seems to be too good to be true is somehow wrong.
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Neobr10: Because it's not an offer, it's a mistake. If you tried to buy it at 1 cent, fine, even though i'm not morally ok with it. The problem here is to seriously expect a store to honor this "deal" and get pissed about it.
Doesn't matter, the law says that they have to honor the price. BB had the opportunity to check the prices that it posted for items, and didn't.

Ultimately, if they were permitted to change their mind, it would open up all sorts of opportunities to bait and switch. Considering that they not just offered the item at that price, but confirmed it as well, they are on the hook.

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hedwards: What does honor have to do with this? Corporations take advantage of consumers all the time, they set up their stores and websites to fleece the unsuspecting customer.
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Neobr10: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_make_a_right
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Gonadius: I'd say it was far more honourable to not take advantage of a blatant error.
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Neobr10: Haha, it's funny to see he mention honor while defending taking advantage of an obvious mistake. Hypocrysy, really.
There is no hypocrisy here. Just because in your imaginary world honor is rewarded, does not mean that the rest of us in the real world get rewarded for it.

In other words, precisely when do I get a check to cover the times when there was a mistake that was made in their favor? Answer, never, because they would never do such a thing.
Posted July 15, 2013
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stoicsentry: Right, because unlike Best Buy, your words contain no diarrhea.

I don't have any friends here. They're downrepping you because you're acting like an idiot, not because they're my friends. #TrueFacts
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langurmonkey: No my words are real unlike yours. I'm not a bullshitting sack of shit like you. If I tell someone, I will do something. I do it. If I make a deal with someone. I honor that deal even if I fucked up and the deal will hurt me badly. Nobody said being a responsible adult is easy. Sometimes it means you have to suffer time to time...
You dare challenge my honor? DRAW YOUR BAT'LETH AND PREPARE TO MEET KORTAR!!!!
Posted July 15, 2013
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langurmonkey: Why? Did I ever say, buying a 1 cent game when it is obviously a mistake is not a bad thing? Why does attacking Best Buy for having no responsibility automatically make ME the leader of the take advantage of all obvious mistakes movement...

Yeah I can just say "SORRY". You know why? It's really simple. I didn't make a deal with Kabuto. I never said, he could have this game for 1 cent, then took his money, then later said, Sorry, you can't have the game.
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varthshenon: Oh so this is all about the money? Okay I get it.
The rest, I have no idea where my post stating that you're like what you posted.
Look.
I raged at Kabuto because I misread his post so it is up to me to make good. I apologized and it was a sincere apology. And an sincere apology is enough to make good after you accidentally raged at someone. To expect more from me is unreasonable. It isn't like I accidentally ran his foot over with my truck.

If I told him, he could have a game for 1 cent, then took his money, then to make good, I'd give him the game because we made a DEAL. By raging at someone, I'm not making a deal with that person...
Post edited July 15, 2013 by langurmonkey
Posted July 15, 2013
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hedwards: So, I'm not really sure why taking an offer that seems to be too good to be true is somehow wrong.
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Gonadius: I'll quote you a bit from a fantasy book (Waylander by David Gemmell) I re-read a few days ago:

"In a merchant's shop, the merchant gives you too many coins in change. You keep the coins, marvelling at your good fortune. But when you have gone he realises his mistake and is angry, both with himself and with you. So the next man who comes into the shop he cheats, to gain back his money. This man in turn realises later and he is angry, and perhaps takes out his anger on someone else. So the tide goes out, each wave affecting more and more people".
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Gonadius: So by people taking advantage of an error, they are forcing price rises to cover the loses, leading to more people thinking its alright to take advantage of the company as its greedy, leading to more bad feeling on both sides.
No, by people taking advantage of an error, it ensures that the shop won't be able to advertise incorrect prices in the future.

That analogy is absolutely ridiculous. The cashier generally counts the coins, and the customer rarely bothers. So, by your way of thinking the merchant is somehow entitled to make up for his mistake by purposefully stealing from somebody else.

Bottom line is that BB is legally obligated to sell the copies that they offered for sale and confirmed as being sold. Just because you have these imagined responsibilities does not mean that law doesn't apply.
Posted July 15, 2013
As a business owner, it's a bit disheartening to read that people are okay with taking advantage of what should be a painfully obvious simple mistake like, say, pricing a new AAA title at a penny.

This is one thing holding me back from opening a web store to sell goods - misplacing a decimal point and putting it live on a retail website can wipe out months of hard work and potential income. More disheartening is that some folks would further think: "Serves him right, he's just a morally-corrupt and greedy businessman out to screw us over."

Sooo glad I'm not in retail, dealing with that thought process.
Posted July 15, 2013
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Neobr10: Because it's not an offer, it's a mistake. If you tried to buy it at 1 cent, fine, even though i'm not morally ok with it. The problem here is to seriously expect a store to honor this "deal" and get pissed about it.
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hedwards: Doesn't matter, the law says that they have to honor the price. BB had the opportunity to check the prices that it posted for items, and didn't.

Ultimately, if they were permitted to change their mind, it would open up all sorts of opportunities to bait and switch. Considering that they not just offered the item at that price, but confirmed it as well, they are on the hook.

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Neobr10: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_wrongs_make_a_right

Haha, it's funny to see he mention honor while defending taking advantage of an obvious mistake. Hypocrysy, really.
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hedwards: There is no hypocrisy here. Just because in your imaginary world honor is rewarded, does not mean that the rest of us in the real world get rewarded for it.

In other words, precisely when do I get a check to cover the times when there was a mistake that was made in their favor? Answer, never, because they would never do such a thing.
Precisely how often do you go through with a purchase that's inflated by 5000%? Because that's basically what happened here, only in reverse?
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