lugum: anyone who wants to discuss their story, as for me i am the outsider, in love with a person who can't say no, with someone who doesn't choose herself but always cares about what others think.
Brasas: Ouch Lugum,
Much as it hurts to say it, you should MOA. Someone that can't say no = someone that won't say no to you as well, so is he really consenting to anything you may think he is? Someone who always cares about what others think, sounds like someone that has their priorities well defined, just not aligned with yours apparently... MOA and look for a better match.
See? Nothing about right or wrong of poliamourous relations. I've kind of been in a similar situation, but YMMV. In my case I can say sincerely it almost killed me to try and make something work, when it wouldn't. Things ended quite badly, for both of us. After pushing things so far, friendship was pretty much impossible, too much ressentment and memories of good and bad all mixed up.
And Lugum, you don't need the ignorant other for this script. Whenever someone in a relationship wants to breakup, there is an "otherness" being chosen over you, even if that has no name nor body. Some would say that's even worse of course. ;)
Thanks, Thing is i am in a financial situation that i can't really meet other women, thus set my mind off things, but i can also understand its a part for her not choosing me.
And i do feel strongly she hasn't done anything for a very long period to have ever choosen me, like just simply meeting up, at a certain point she even said so she was afraid because of what might happen.
Certain things happened with her and now she denies any feelings she had for me, that she said certain things almost like she will have her perfect family now and wants to completely rule me out.
Even with or without any feelings still for me i think her marriage is a disaster waiting to happen because of several things.
But yeah we have come across that path of fighting, ressentments many times, and i am even at that path now and things are killing me too. We have tried breaking up even several times but we both couldn't, but it might be enough for eitherone sometime.
I am not sure what you mean with your last 2 sentences about breaking up and otherness?
xxxIndyxxx: Long story short: was in a relationship, I ended it (stupidly at that point), she got another, so did I. My relationship ended, we became good friends again. We still had feelings. She said she would end it with the other dude but this wasn't a good time... I started (against my principles) dating her again while she was involved (since she said she would end it soon). It just kept going on and on (everbody knew except for the guy, he didn't believe it, even an uncle of him knew and started a family argument about it, still he didn't believe it), I got quite depressed about it, ended it again. We are not on speaking terms any more and she married the dude and has children. NOT a fun experience, I got better out of it but it wasn't fun and I will never do it again. I am happily married know and if something should happen (i.e. i fall in love with somebody else) I will discuss it with my wife before doing something.
People just get hurt too much over these sort of things...
It hurts alot, it's just much easier i think if someone flatout says to you i dont love you anymore, i dont want you anymore rather then keep someone hanging on a wire, and get something from 2 people. And it might not be easy for the married one either but still.
Glad for you it worked out and you found someone.