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I have been looking into Beamdog. The games activate on install and can then be run offline, similar to Steam. What I don't understand is this statement in their FAQ:
We are committed to thinking of our customers first, so if for some unforseen reason we are forced (yes, I say forced as we'll fight tooth and nail to keep the service going) to shut our service down we will remove all date based expiry in the system.
What does date based expiry mean? I would assume you would still need to activate on install and they won't be around, or does this mean a backup would work on new computers forever?
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Personally I wouldn't put any faith at all in what businesses say about what would happen if they went under. So I don't think it matters what they meant by that. It's obviously supposed to be a very vague reassurance which will probably be kept that way for legal reasons.

Ultimately it would be in the hands of the administrators as to what happened to the service.

Furthermore, what Bansama had to say about Beamdog:
Finally tried Beamdog with the cheap White Gold deal. Ugh. Not again. That client is a piece of fucking annoying as hell steaming turd.

No matter how many times I tell it to download and install to a specific folder on a drive other than C, it simply ignores the path. I've had it download within it's program files folder, somewhere within the appdata and to the root of the C drive, but it just won't go where I tell it to.
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StingingVelvet: What does date based expiry mean? I would assume you would still need to activate on install and they won't be around, or does this mean a backup would work on new computers forever?
I believe it's the same deal as GreenManGaming where the client will have to dial home at some point. There will be an unspecified time you can play games offline without net connection but eventually it will need one and if it can't you won't be able to access your games. If they go under they are saying that restriction will be removed.

No matter how many times I tell it to download and install to a specific folder on a drive other than C, it simply ignores the path. I've had it download within it's program files folder, somewhere within the appdata and to the root of the C drive, but it just won't go where I tell it to.
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Navagon:
Like Steam, Beamdog will only install games to the directory the client is installed to. I have it installed on a secondary gaming drive and that's were all the games go. Just for the record I have about 6 games with them and have no problems to report with it so far.
Post edited April 06, 2011 by Delixe
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Delixe: I believe it's the same deal as GreenManGaming where the client will have to dial home at some point. There will be an unspecified time you can play games offline without net connection but eventually it will need one and if it can't you won't be able to access your games. If they go under they are saying that restriction will be removed.
Right, but what if you need to install a game again from scratch?
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Delixe: Like Steam, Beamdog will only install games to the directory the client is installed to. I have it installed on a secondary gaming drive and that's were all the games go. Just for the record I have about 6 games with them and have no problems to report with it so far.
You can install Steam games where you want with a bit of trickery, but I get what you mean. Still, perhaps it shouldn't have the option to install the games elsewhere if no such option actually exists. It is still a flaw even if it's not much of one.
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StingingVelvet: Right, but what if you need to install a game again from scratch?
The game arrives pre-installed and ready to play there is no installer package to actually check for DRM. I would imagine you can simply make a back up of the install folder and the client will validate it.
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Navagon: You can install Steam games where you want with a bit of trickery, but I get what you mean. Still, perhaps it shouldn't have the option to install the games elsewhere if no such option actually exists. It is still a flaw even if it's not much of one.
True it is sloppy to have an option like that in the settings but then it's Beta so you can expect things like this. I would imagine it was something they were working on and either forgot to remove the option or they are still working on it.
Post edited April 06, 2011 by Delixe
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Delixe: True it is sloppy to have an option like that in the settings but then it's Beta so you can expect things like this. I would imagine it was something they were working on and either forgot to remove the option or they are still working on it.
It's still beta? Well fair enough, but still, removing the option from view until they do something with it would be a good idea. People aren't always going to be understanding when they've just paid for something and feel jerked around. Which again is understandable.
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Navagon: It's still beta? Well fair enough, but still, removing the option from view until they do something with it would be a good idea. People aren't always going to be understanding when they've just paid for something and feel jerked around. Which again is understandable.
I'm unsure if they simply can just remove it from a client based system like that. Probabably easier and safer for them to wait for a brand new client build which will either have a working option or remove it.
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Delixe: I'm unsure if they simply can just remove it from a client based system like that. Probabably easier and safer for them to wait for a brand new client build which will either have a working option or remove it.
The closest I get to programming is xhtml with CSS and a tiny bit of javascript. But I wouldn't have thought it was too difficult to render an option invisible. But then that would depend on how that option is presented in the first place.
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Navagon: The closest I get to programming is xhtml with CSS and a tiny bit of javascript. But I wouldn't have thought it was too difficult to render an option invisible. But then that would depend on how that option is presented in the first place.
I know bugger all about programming. Just speculating based on my experience with Steam and GMG. They didn't really make changes just updated to new builds. I know Steam would sit there for months with broken features that were never disabled from view. The broken early offline mode for example.
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Delixe: I know bugger all about programming. Just speculating based on my experience with Steam and GMG. They didn't really make changes just updated to new builds. I know Steam would sit there for months with broken features that were never disabled from view. The broken early offline mode for example.
I'm more inclined to chalk that up to Steam being Steam (as it was then) than complications regarding removing options from view. After all, don't forget that their client is updated all the time anyway. I think they kept offline mode as having it there meant the promise that they would fix it. Removing it could simply mean that it would never return.

After all, GOG removing several options pertaining to support at around the same time their support was dying on its arse did, and still does, make me wonder if we're ever going to see those options (or new and improved versions), make a return.
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Delixe: Like Steam, Beamdog will only install games to the directory the client is installed to. I have it installed on a secondary gaming drive and that's were all the games go. Just for the record I have about 6 games with them and have no problems to report with it so far.
Then why do they bother providing the option to specify install directory and download directory? Not that important mind. As I said, I've had the client install to three different locations around the C drive (only once within it's own sub directory even).
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Navagon: I'm more inclined to chalk that up to Steam being Steam (as it was then) than complications regarding removing options from view. After all, don't forget that their client is updated all the time anyway. I think they kept offline mode as having it there meant the promise that they would fix it. Removing it could simply mean that it would never return.

After all, GOG removing several options pertaining to support at around the same time their support was dying on its arse did, and still does, make me wonder if we're ever going to see those options (or new and improved versions), make a return.
My only real point is with the Beta tag companies can hide behind it. It's not right of course but nevertheless you should never expect a fully functional product with the word Beta attached.
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bansama: Then why do they bother providing the option to specify install directory and download directory? Not that important mind. As I said, I've had the client install to three different locations around the C drive (only once within it's own sub directory even).
I'm not on the payroll so I really cant say :p. Yes it's unprofessional to have an unusable function on display but it's likely one they plan to implement at some point. I just installed the client on my gaming drive first so it was never an issue for me.
Post edited April 06, 2011 by Delixe
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Delixe: My only real point is with the Beta tag companies can hide behind it. It's not right of course but nevertheless you should never expect a fully functional product with the word Beta attached.
Agreed. Although again it's notable that GOG got that wrong too. Coming out of beta doesn't usually mean replacing the stable tried and tested version with something completely new and clearly not very well tested at all. :P
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Navagon: Agreed. Although again it's notable that GOG got that wrong too. Coming out of beta doesn't usually mean replacing the stable tried and tested version with something completely new and clearly not very well tested at all. :P
Games companies do that all the time. They call them sequels.