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Posted February 28, 2010
I agree - some responses to newcomers (the "I'd like to see this game!" threads and other completely off-topic posts) are less gentle than before.
We definitely need to keep up the good spirits... we have a vested interest in making this a vibrant, friendly community.
These forums are living proof that CD Projekt has a viable business model, built upon honest users that want GOG (and the copyright holders of the games they sell) to succeed.
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Gundato: ANd of course he is a Steam-using <INSERT ETHNIC SLUR OF YOUR CHOICE>" is NOT appropriate.

"Why you stuck-up, half-witted, Steam-using NERFHERDER!"
"Hey! Who are you calling Steam-using?"
Post edited February 28, 2010 by domgrief
Posted February 28, 2010
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Gundato: He worded it really awkwardly, but he has a point. These forums are a den of GoG-fanboys. And anyone who hangs out at the Steam boards (or tries to maintain some degree of objectiveness) will think we are all a bunch of elitest pricks.

Very few people on the Steam forums think that. I know, seeing that I've been using those forums longer than I have GOG. But it is also a fairly well known fact on the Steam forums that they are a really bad place when it comes to "fan boy-ism", so much in fact, that the word "fanboy/fan boy" is censored over there.
So no, I don't think the point is all that valid. We should not refrain from discussing our honest opinions of something as that is just as bad. Would you rather have a discussion with people who refuse to say what they really feel -- because they are afraid of how others will react? I know I wouldn't. As you'd never really know what anyone in such a community is really like. Thus, you wouldn't be able place any trust in anything they had to say.
The real problem here, is the people who take everything as a personal attack, even when it's blatantly not a personal attack. Describing the poor state of a forum, which you've used for many years, is not a personal attack. Calling an individual user on said forum an idiot -- or worse -- would be a personal attack.
So yes, I agree, insulting individual users, is not appropriate. But then, avoiding voicing your real opinion on subjects (and not any specific user) out of fear of offending someone, is also NOT appropriate.
Post edited February 28, 2010 by bansama
Posted February 28, 2010
Lets keep in mind that people can maintain their helpful disposition for only so long after being asked the same question over and over and over again.
Every time a new poster asks when will this or that game become available it's almost like a race to find out who points him to the wishlist and how funny, rude or actually helpful that reply is depends on the poster and on how many times they've had to answer the question and how thin is their patience. There comes a point where the reply will seem rude because the clutter can get annoying.
But all in all, we still have a classy communitty. The religion thread, like someone pointed out is a great example. The only argument that arose there (at least in the beginning, i stopped checking it while back) was one of semantics and people answered and shared ideas openly without grabbing each other's throats. That doesn't happen everywhere and we should be glad for what we still have.
Posted February 28, 2010
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bansama: So no, I don't think the point is all that valid. We should not refrain from discussing our honest opinions of something as that is just as bad. Would you rather have a discussion with people who refuse to say what they really feel -- because they are afraid of how others will react? I know I wouldn't. As you'd never really know what anyone in such a community is really like. Thus, you wouldn't be able place any trust in anything they had to say.

Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you appear to be. So far I don't think I've ever seen an "STFU N00B" used here in any manner other than a joke
Posted February 28, 2010
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bansama: So no, I don't think the point is all that valid. We should not refrain from discussing our honest opinions of something as that is just as bad. Would you rather have a discussion with people who refuse to say what they really feel -- because they are afraid of how others will react? I know I wouldn't. As you'd never really know what anyone in such a community is really like. Thus, you wouldn't be able place any trust in anything they had to say.
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Aliasalpha: Better to be hated for who you are than loved for who you appear to be. So far I don't think I've ever seen an "STFU N00B" used here in any manner other than a joke

STFU N00B
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Aliasalpha: other than a joke

I mean it this time!
Posted February 28, 2010
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xa_chan: BUT I find the rudeness deserved if we have a "rookie" that blatantly ignores the rules of the community and starts his presence here by bitching about what GOG should or shouldn't do. Being classy goes two ways, and I feel there's no need to be classy to whomever doesn't want to be classy.
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DarrkPhoenix: On the contrary, being civil when other people are not is absolutely critical. Otherwise a classy community very easily degenerates into a bunch of bickering children. Someone perceives a newcomer as being rude, so they're rude in return, so additional people feel justified being rude, and it just goes downhill from there. On the other hand, responding politely even when the other person is being a dick will often inspire or guilt the other person into acting a bit better, or if the person is just a troll they're likely to get tired to trolling faster if they're not getting a rise out of anyone. Basically you have to ask yourself what kind of community you want to be part of, then contribute to that kind of community through your actions in all circumstances.

This is a very important point.
Posted February 28, 2010
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El_Caz: Lets keep in mind that people can maintain their helpful disposition for only so long after being asked the same question over and over and over again.

Well then i would much prefer that a user just ignores the question and moves onto a thread that takes their interest rather than leave a prickly reply to a question/topic that has been repeated before.
Less fussing and fighting and more group GOG hugs and maybe occasional fondle for the more frisky.
Posted February 28, 2010
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DarrkPhoenix: On the contrary, being civil when other people are not is absolutely critical.

YES. This is a goal we should all strive against.
A guiding principle that I find useful is Wheaton's Law.
Posted February 28, 2010
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robobrien: Well then i would much prefer that a user just ignores the question and moves onto a thread that takes their interest rather than leave a prickly reply to a question/topic that has been repeated before.
Less fussing and fighting and more group GOG hugs and maybe occasional fondle for the more frisky.

This! Just down-rate the OP and move on.
Posted February 28, 2010
I think we are very friendly, especially to all the one-post-newbies who don't have the courtesy to read the rules or use common sense when it comes to requests.
Posted February 28, 2010
Im a nice guy :|
Posted February 28, 2010
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robobrien: Less fussing and fighting and more group GOG hugs and maybe occasional fondle for the more frisky.

I'll admit this made me give out a low gutural chuckle. :-)
Truth be told, that's usually what I do. Not the fondling of course, I mean if something annoys me, I'm bound to ignore it or try some humor at it. We were all new once, it's not like new posters know any better. Sometimes you really like an old game and you really wish it was here and you really want to share how much you really like that gamne. And hey, sometimes it's a game you also really like. Really.
I'm not easily annoyed anyway and namecalling has never been my forte, but I also understand some posters losing their patience. I don't condone but I don't bother to condemn it either.
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ovoon: Im a nice guy :|

I've met you in Fallout 1 and I have to admit you're kinda creepy.
(Really, the first time I bumped into your avatar on the game I went 'heeeeeyy....' and now it's very hard not to imagine you with the same kind of personality)
Post edited February 28, 2010 by El_Caz
Posted February 28, 2010
All I do is link to the Wishlist when someone's begging for a game.
Posted February 28, 2010
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Andy_Panthro: It can be difficult to be civil when you get a dozen people saying "why isn't Game X here?" or whatever.
People don't take the time to read these days...
I do try and be helpful where I can.

Simple solution there: create a "GAMES YOU WANT" board. If you try to post anything you will be fowarded to the FAQ :D.
Dunno, I like this community. I don't see that much rudeness going on when compared to others. Like everyone says though, the bigger a place gets, the more inhospitable it becomes.
Posted February 28, 2010
Honestly, I think this community is so mature because the majority of members are all over the legal age to drink. Yes, there are people younger, but they are also in a mature community, and their behavior reflects the rest of the community.
Steam is the worst ever. The only time I ever fit in with them is when I was drunk off my ass and posting there, I sounded like a complete dick, or someone obviously drunk. And trying to get help there? You'd have better luck trying to squeeze blood from a rock.
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