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General discussion (archive)Batman: Arkham City uses GFWL.(30 posts)(30 posts)
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Posted June 21, 2011
Yay! Hooray for anything Batman related (especially Arkham City)!
Posted June 21, 2011
With GFWL you can just create an offline account, turn off notifications and then you won't even notice that this "Live thing" is there.
Posted June 21, 2011
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Druidshinobi: You can bypass it? That sounds good, i do have a copy of dirt 2 on steam but haven't installed it due to GFWL, any links or google searchs on how i can find out how to do this?
Yes, you have to use the official loader to activate it the first time, but after that you can just use the .exe file found in the program's directory. At least I think you need to use it the first time you load up, I know that you definitely need to do that if you load any DLC.
Posted June 22, 2011
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hedwards: I'll keep this brief as the forum software has once again eaten my post.

You don't need the loader to play, you use it once, then you can bypass it by using the games executable file. I used to do that with FO3 when I was playing that.
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Druidshinobi: You can bypass it? That sounds good, i do have a copy of dirt 2 on steam but haven't installed it due to GFWL, any links or google searchs on how i can find out how to do this?
Yeah if you can put up with Steam I don't know why you'd have any problem with GfWL (considering you can largely ignore it). Obviously anyone having crashes due to either is going to hate it.
Posted June 22, 2011
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EndlessKnight: Many games have tools to remove GFWL. Batman is popular enough that it's likely to be the same.
Care to explain ? I have red Faction: Guerilla that uses it (did not install it) and I am interested in Batman AA but this GFWL thing annoys me. I could use an offline account, but what if Microsoft decides to stop supporting the app ? I like to replay my games even when I have them for a long time. Are there any way to avoid GFWL other than the offline account ?
Posted June 22, 2011
GFWL is the worst piece of s**t software I've ever had to put up with in 20 years of PC gaming. Makes StarForce and Securom look like a dream in comparison. I mean, at least they have a point, even though I don't agree with them.

I absolutely do not buy games that have GFWL jammed in there, not anymore.

At worst, it just plain doesn't work. For some reason, it's various components all seem to update independently of each other, and independently of Windows itself, which means lots of updating just to get it started. I've had it installed across three systems, using three different operating systems, which are 100% stable and reliable in every single operation but GFWL. On two of those systems, it would randomly refuse to run at intervals.

Even if it does work, it's still a pain in the ass. If I use it the way it's supposed to be played, during most games I'll get booted back to the desktop (without having a chance to save my game) if my girlfriend happens to boot up my Xbox downstairs to watch a movie. (Not an unusual occurrence.) I gather I'm not the only PC user who also owns a shared Xbox, from the sounds of it.

Yes, there are a dozen ways around it, but each one is an inconvenience. I don't buy games to be inconvenienced.

So, at best, I finally get it to work, then I have to create an "offline profile" to play with, at which point there's absolutely no reason for the damn software to exist in the first place, except to piss me off when it decides not to work. Even worse, all of the GFWL games I have been unfortunate to buy have all been bought from Steam, which does everything that GFWL does, only better, and a hell of a lot less intrusively.

So, there we have it. They've managed to create a piece of software that does nothing except piss people off.

I wonder how much it cost them to develop that?
Post edited June 22, 2011 by Buckid
Posted June 22, 2011
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orcishgamer: Yeah if you can put up with Steam I don't know why you'd have any problem with GfWL (considering you can largely ignore it). Obviously anyone having crashes due to either is going to hate it.
At least Steam updates itself properly. GFWL on some games means you have to start - update -start -update -start -update -start -update till it's up to date. Or do it manually.
Posted June 22, 2011
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Druidshinobi: You can bypass it? That sounds good, i do have a copy of dirt 2 on steam but haven't installed it due to GFWL, any links or google searchs on how i can find out how to do this?
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orcishgamer: Yeah if you can put up with Steam I don't know why you'd have any problem with GfWL (considering you can largely ignore it). Obviously anyone having crashes due to either is going to hate it.
Hehe trust me i only just about put up with steam, also it's nothing against GFWL but i really just dont want to install more programs to run games, i really wish i could get rid of steam but theres so many games i own on it already that i can't.
Posted June 23, 2011
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mushy101: Oh ok then. Any idea why the publisher changed hands?
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StingingVelvet: Warner Bros. Interactive just didn't want to do all the publishing work last time, they were still pretty small. This time they decided to do it all themselves, and generally are a much larger publisher now.
Thanks for the info, much appreciated. :)
Posted June 23, 2011
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sebarnolds: Care to explain ? I have red Faction: Guerilla that uses it (did not install it) and I am interested in Batman AA but this GFWL thing annoys me. I could use an offline account, but what if Microsoft decides to stop supporting the app ? I like to replay my games even when I have them for a long time. Are there any way to avoid GFWL other than the offline account ?
They may stop supporting the app, but not the service. Windows + Xbox 360 + Windows Phone gaming in being united into XBOX LIVE gaming. You'll get to keep your games no matter what happens to the actual client.
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Buckid: Steam, which does everything that GFWL does, only better, and a hell of a lot less intrusively.
First thing that Steam fails at is proper installation of the games. I'll stop here, no reason to continue if Steam is a piece of shit at this. :)
Post edited June 23, 2011 by KavazovAngel
Posted June 23, 2011
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Druidshinobi: No sale here then, Nothing personal against GFWL but i really don't want to install things on my computer and i don't see the need to use programs to load up games (i only use steam because of it's crazy sales). What wrong with just installing a game Via disc or digital download and playing it?

Well i might pick it up a few months after release for PS3 when it's like £10 or something.
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hedwards: I'll keep this brief as the forum software has once again eaten my post.

You don't need the loader to play, you use it once, then you can bypass it by using the games executable file. I used to do that with FO3 when I was playing that.
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that is the first time i hear about any loader for fallout 3...

what loader? i started the game normally from autostart and then just log into gfwl.
same with bats
Posted June 23, 2011
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lukaszthegreat: ?

that is the first time i hear about any loader for fallout 3...

what loader? i started the game normally from autostart and then just log into gfwl.
same with bats
I probably should have said, launcher, but I was thinking loader.

By default the game uses a launcher, if you look at the shortcut in the start menu, that's the one it uses by default.

But, if you go into the installation directory you'll find Fallout3.exe which bypasses the launcher as well as the CD check that the launcher performs.
Posted June 23, 2011
If its GFWL I'm not buying it, the first Batman gave me enough issues with wiping out my first 5 hrs of gameplay due to GFWL
Posted June 23, 2011
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KavazovAngel: First thing that Steam fails at is proper installation of the games. I'll stop here, no reason to continue if Steam is a piece of shit at this. :)
Yeah, having to wait an extra 60 seconds first time you run a game is much, much worse than not being able to play it at all, or being booted out with warning and no chance to save if somebody boots a console in another room.

..wait, what?
Posted June 23, 2011
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Buckid: Yeah, having to wait an extra 60 seconds first time you run a game is much, much worse than not being able to play it at all, or being booted out with warning and no chance to save if somebody boots a console in another room.
/care :)

My point still stands.

(I dislike GfWL for other reasons, by the way)
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