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I live in the United States. I like GOG.com. I have been a member for a few years. I have had three banks in that time. My first bank never gave me any problems buying from GOG.com. I moved.

Bank 2 hit me with all kinds of little charges that they could never explain, and finally (after much persistence) relented and took them off my account.

I had a few other problems with that bank, and switched to Bank 3. The people at this bank are generally very helpful and friendly.

However, I tried to purchase a game the other night and found I wan unable to do so. I went to the bank today and was told that I was probably not allowed to purchase from GOG.com because the country they were in was on a "restricted" list. I told them the company is in Poland. Nope, Poland is not on the list.

A phone call is made to a manager. They say that GOG.com is trying to process my payment through either Spain, Germany, or Russia, and that those countries are restricted.

Why are those countries restricted?

Because there is a lot of fraud in those countries, says the bank. And the bank can be held liable for any kind of fraudulent charges that occur as a result. But the bank can unblock my card for $50.

Oh, I say, does me paying $50 relieve the bank from liability?

No.

Then why am I paying $50?

That helps the bank recover any losses.

$50 isn't that much money to protect against losses.

*Blank stare.*

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It's becoming more and more commonplace for individuals to make financial transactions across national borders. Maybe it's just the area I'm in, but I would really hope that banks would be on top of this sort of thing since it is their business.

I really like the people working at this bank, but I was beginning to get aggravated. The person I spoke with was acting like I was in some kind of danger of getting my information stolen even though I told them I have been doing business with GOG.com for years and never had a problem.

In fact, I told them that I was at risk of someone stealing my information if I used their online banking system. Again, I was just met with the kind of stare from someone who doesn't have an answer. I know that stare, because I've given it before, lol. Difference is I then admit that I don't really know the answer. Here, I just keep getting talked into circles.
I would suggest using Paypal if possible. I've bought all my GOG games through them and have not had any issues.
I may have to do that, although I've avoided it because I don't want to link my bank account to PayPayl.

I have to ask, though, and hopefully someone from GOG.com will be able to answer this, are payments even processed through any of those countries - Russia, Spain, Germany?

Because the last time I had problems with a bank, I thought someone said that GOG.com processes payments through the UK.
We're a Cypriot company, so our transactions go through Cyprus. Unfortunately some banks block transactions from this country, but they shouldn't be able to deny you if you request that they make an exception in your case. They may try to convince you otherwise, but I don't believe they are allowed to deny such a request.

As kodeen mentioned, PayPal is a good workaround. If you experience issues using your credit card through PayPal, then the 100% waterproof solution is to use the "Add Funds" option, put some money on the PayPal account, and then use that money to make actual online purchases. This should allow you to bypass all and any bank-related problems and limitations.
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EdwardB: Because the last time I had problems with a bank, I thought someone said that GOG.com processes payments through the UK.
GOG is incorporated in Cyprus for tax reasons, and that sets off red flags for some banks because Cyprus is apparently a haven for fraud.

From what you've described, however, it sounds like you may want to get a different bank. Not only are they blanket banning transactions with an entire country, they're charging YOU to "fix" the problem that they created? Even if you use Paypal for future GOG transactions (which should work), this is very worrisome from a consumer perspective, as it indicates that your bank may have a large number of other hidden and silly fees. Most banks don't do these blanket bans, but for most of the ones that do, you just have to talk to the management and they'll approve GOG transactions for your account free of charge.

Semi-ninja'd by Firek.
Post edited December 13, 2012 by bevinator
Buy prepaid card.
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tajemniczybeton: Buy prepaid card.
He is in the US. Quite a few of their prepaid cards don't work internationally.
Unless of course you are suggesting a pre-paid card for use with paypal, in which case I think it should work.
I would suggest getting a pre-paid card as taj suggested. Since you're in the states, I use a Wal-Mart Money card, I load it up with cash when I'm in a spending mood. Originally they blocked my purchase, but a quick phone call and they added GoG to their safe list. Haven't had a problem since. There are a number of alternatives now with MasterCard, Visa, and American Express offering pre-loaded cards.
If you buy a prepaid card, you can then load that card onto PayPal?

If that's the case, it might be a workaround.

Because, yeah, I don't know if a prepaid card would work directly through the GOG.com site.

I intend to talk to my bank again tomorrow.
It sounds to me that your bank is in desperate need for some geography lessons if they think that Nicosia is in Spain, Germany or Russia (card statement says GOG.com NICOSIA).
This is interesting. I've noted recently my bank is charging me "exchange" fees which are small but still annoying, for GOG purchases. The fee is small enough I haven't felt like going through the hassle of arguing with them over it. I know it would be a hassle. Trying to get a bank to stop ripping you off always is. I've yet to do business with a bank in the United States that did not screw me over at one time or another. I really hate them. I'm tempted to take my chances and stuff my money (little that it is) under the mattress where at least I control it and it is all mine.

I had a bad experience with PayPal in the past too. I will never use them.

I might try switching to my local credit union. Maybe that would help.
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EdwardB: If you buy a prepaid card, you can then load that card onto PayPal?

If that's the case, it might be a workaround.

Because, yeah, I don't know if a prepaid card would work directly through the GOG.com site.

I intend to talk to my bank again tomorrow.
Yes. I've used prepaid debit cards online before and they worked fine with Paypal. You have to register them with your name and address then after 24 hours or so, you can use them for internet purchases.

Generally the fees run $4 for $25, $5 for $50 and $6 for $100 without any other fees after wards.

Edit: The first purchase with the card will cause Paypal to put a $1 fee on the card to make sure it is valid. This expires after 4-7 days or so. I dobut you could use a prepaid card directly with GOG though as laws were changed to prohibit them being used for international purchases after March 30th 2012.
Post edited December 13, 2012 by Fictionvision
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EdwardB: I live in the United States. I like GOG.com. I have been a member for a few years. I have had three banks in that time. My first bank never gave me any problems buying from GOG.com. I moved.

Bank 2 hit me with all kinds of little charges that they could never explain, and finally (after much persistence) relented and took them off my account.

I had a few other problems with that bank, and switched to Bank 3. The people at this bank are generally very helpful and friendly.

However, I tried to purchase a game the other night and found I wan unable to do so. I went to the bank today and was told that I was probably not allowed to purchase from GOG.com because the country they were in was on a "restricted" list. I told them the company is in Poland. Nope, Poland is not on the list.

A phone call is made to a manager. They say that GOG.com is trying to process my payment through either Spain, Germany, or Russia, and that those countries are restricted.

Why are those countries restricted?

Because there is a lot of fraud in those countries, says the bank. And the bank can be held liable for any kind of fraudulent charges that occur as a result. But the bank can unblock my card for $50.

Oh, I say, does me paying $50 relieve the bank from liability?

No.

Then why am I paying $50?

That helps the bank recover any losses.

$50 isn't that much money to protect against losses.

*Blank stare.*

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It's becoming more and more commonplace for individuals to make financial transactions across national borders. Maybe it's just the area I'm in, but I would really hope that banks would be on top of this sort of thing since it is their business.

I really like the people working at this bank, but I was beginning to get aggravated. The person I spoke with was acting like I was in some kind of danger of getting my information stolen even though I told them I have been doing business with GOG.com for years and never had a problem.

In fact, I told them that I was at risk of someone stealing my information if I used their online banking system. Again, I was just met with the kind of stare from someone who doesn't have an answer. I know that stare, because I've given it before, lol. Difference is I then admit that I don't really know the answer. Here, I just keep getting talked into circles.
I live in the United States too and had a similar problem, you want to know what I did? I called them, flipped the fuck out, and told them I'd move every cent to a different bank. I now have no problems. Mileage may vary.
Post edited December 13, 2012 by fortune_p_dawg
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EdwardB: ... But the bank can unblock my card for $50.

Oh, I say, does me paying $50 relieve the bank from liability?

No.

Then why am I paying $50?

That helps the bank recover any losses.

$50 isn't that much money to protect against losses.

*Blank stare.*
Seems extracted from a Mel Brooks' or Groucho Marx's movie.... ;)

I hope you'll find a suitable solution soon!
Post edited December 13, 2012 by Thespian*
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fortune_p_dawg: I live in the United States too and had a similar problem, you want to know what I did? I called them, flipped the fuck out, and told them I'd move every cent to a different bank. I now have no problems. Mileage may vary.
Hmm. I like that idea. My problem is, I don't have all that many cents to move so they probably wouldn't care. On the other hand though, it would be fun for me and feel good. :D
Post edited December 13, 2012 by dirtyharry50