Posted May 12, 2014
thief_gold
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hscott2hughes
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Fenixp
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Posted May 12, 2014
Yes. Yes, you do. We've all seen it for the longest time, and I'm just so sad to say it, but anyone who has not heard of Steam does no longer qualify for being a human. I think I should refer to you as 'it' from now on.
It can redeem itself tho. All it has to do is to give Star Trek: Online a shot, just alone, in single-player, and thank me later :-P
It can redeem itself tho. All it has to do is to give Star Trek: Online a shot, just alone, in single-player, and thank me later :-P
Elvis is Dead
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Posted May 12, 2014
I just hope the thread can close now, I think I set a record for the most "douche bag posts" by a single person in one thread. :P Of course you can't go back and edit them because it only pisses people off more.
_ChaosFox_
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Posted May 12, 2014
hscott2hughes: I am going to play the Trek game and it will doubtlessly entertain me. I'm not angry (not as angry as some because not being familiar with Steam is somehow a personal insult to them, and also somehow equates to trolling. Uh...wait, huh??) But I do miss the simpler days of gaming.
Well, on the actual topic of Star Trek: The Game - is it any good? A lot of the user reviews I've been reading have essentially been nerd rants about how it corrupts the purpose of the Star Trek universe yada-yada. I've seen the game for €15 in our local store for PS3 and have been curious if it can be seen as a straightforward, simplistic third-person shooter you can have a few hours of fun with.
When it comes to movie-licensed games, I'm very sceptical with user reviews, as it's the "cool thing" to rage against them nowadays.
Post edited May 12, 2014 by jamyskis
Fender_178
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Posted May 12, 2014
I dont mind Steam's DRM because I have seen other forms of DRM that did not work for crap as another person on here mentioned Secu-ROM which caused more problems than I could count on my fingers and toes. With Some computers Secu-ROM prevented legit users from playing their games because it did not like them having 2 optical drives and also it did not like daemon tools installed which is a virtual optical drive program. That form of DRM is very controlling on what you can and cannot have on your computer hardware wise which is a load of crap.
I like DRM-free as well because I like the manner of purchasing a game and being able to download it again unlimited number of times. Also You don't have to deal with the extra resources that the Steam Client or any other DRM based client needs to run.
One last form of DRM that I hate is limited number of activations on a game. If you purchased a game then you should have the ability to install or reinstall the game as many times as you see fit.
No need to apologize Steam is not everyone's cup of tea.
I like DRM-free as well because I like the manner of purchasing a game and being able to download it again unlimited number of times. Also You don't have to deal with the extra resources that the Steam Client or any other DRM based client needs to run.
One last form of DRM that I hate is limited number of activations on a game. If you purchased a game then you should have the ability to install or reinstall the game as many times as you see fit.
No need to apologize Steam is not everyone's cup of tea.
hscott2hughes
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Posted May 12, 2014
Fenixp: Yes. Yes, you do. We've all seen it for the longest time, and I'm just so sad to say it, but anyone who has not heard of Steam does no longer qualify for being a human. I think I should refer to you as 'it' from now on.
It can redeem itself tho. All it has to do is to give Star Trek: Online a shot, just alone, in single-player, and thank me later :-P
Hehehe, well, I have been called much worse. And in order to redeem myself, "I shall consider it!." (Quote from mirror universe Spock.) ;-)It can redeem itself tho. All it has to do is to give Star Trek: Online a shot, just alone, in single-player, and thank me later :-P
Pheace
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From Netherlands
Posted May 12, 2014
HypersomniacLive: Let's assume that regardless of the circumstances of Steam going down for good, they do what you suggest and that it works. What would happen if/ when a future Windows update breaks the client in some way? And what if/ when the client breaks on a later version of Windows and/ or other OSes? Would Valve update/ patch the client after Steam's no longer around? And for how long?
Personally, if Steam went down, or GOG for that matter, I'd start looking for a new place to have a digital library at. My days of storage are over, both physical and digital (locally). So at best, having an updated client would be a temporary thing, till I re-buy the part of my collection I still care about somewhere else. And probably for most of it, it'll be available for pennies on sale, and hopefully, in remakes or HD versions for whatever the new resolutions are at that time (or something exotic like VR even perhaps). I don't have stuff I bought 20 years ago anymore. Heck, I've rebought remake's/HD versions of games I bought in digital format in the last 5 years. I have no clue what the future will bring, but I do not doubt this same trend will continue in the future. And given I pick up a lot of stuff relatively cheap on sales anyway, I really don't mind.
Post edited May 12, 2014 by Pheace
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Posted May 12, 2014
OP, I ran into the same thing with Serious Sam HD. I went to great lengths to buy the disc versions. Bought at an inconvenient time so when I finally opened them, it was past the return period. Game installer simply launched a Steam installer. Found out all I bought was a Steam key in a box.
While my old age and change of hobbies has allowed me to accept more concessions than I would have liked in a previous time... I'm still not a fan of Steam. Bandwidth limits force me to turn off auto-updates (Steam doesn't allow you to do that ANY way other than one game at a time... WHY??????). On PLENTY of occasions, I get Steam errors, crashes, etc. that delay my game play, AND they don't support the games they "sell". Its all on you if the game doesn't work.
I'm optimistic that their "renting" policy is simply legalese to protect them from software pirates, thieves, and ill-meaning companies/customers... but I also don't like giving anyone the ability to exercise such decisions over my investments... it is for this reason that my Steam library MOSTLY consists of keys from bundles. I think I've only purchased 2 games directly from them. (the fact I even installed the Steam software has me shivering in my weaker moments ;) )
While my old age and change of hobbies has allowed me to accept more concessions than I would have liked in a previous time... I'm still not a fan of Steam. Bandwidth limits force me to turn off auto-updates (Steam doesn't allow you to do that ANY way other than one game at a time... WHY??????). On PLENTY of occasions, I get Steam errors, crashes, etc. that delay my game play, AND they don't support the games they "sell". Its all on you if the game doesn't work.
I'm optimistic that their "renting" policy is simply legalese to protect them from software pirates, thieves, and ill-meaning companies/customers... but I also don't like giving anyone the ability to exercise such decisions over my investments... it is for this reason that my Steam library MOSTLY consists of keys from bundles. I think I've only purchased 2 games directly from them. (the fact I even installed the Steam software has me shivering in my weaker moments ;) )
hscott2hughes
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Posted May 12, 2014
hscott2hughes: I am going to play the Trek game and it will doubtlessly entertain me. I'm not angry (not as angry as some because not being familiar with Steam is somehow a personal insult to them, and also somehow equates to trolling. Uh...wait, huh??) But I do miss the simpler days of gaming.
jamyskis: Well, on the actual topic of Star Trek: The Game - is it any good? A lot of the user reviews I've been reading have essentially been nerd rants about how it corrupts the purpose of the Star Trek universe yada-yada. I've seen the game for €15 in our local store for PS3 and have been curious if it can be seen as a straightforward, simplistic third-person shooter you can have a few hours of fun with.
When it comes to movie-licensed games, I'm very sceptical with user reviews, as it's the "cool thing" to rage against them nowadays.
I'm sure the Star Trek game will entertain me sufficiently.
Elvis is Dead
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Posted May 12, 2014
Hey Scott, what is your avatar? It's been driving me nuts since you joined. It looks like a Mercury or Apollo capsule but I can't be sure.
hscott2hughes
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Posted May 12, 2014
Post edited May 12, 2014 by hscott2hughes
Elvis is Dead
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Posted May 12, 2014
I'm guessing it's not the one that sank. :P
hscott2hughes
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Posted May 12, 2014
Actually, I better double check that, but I think it's Mercury.
mqstout
Pittsburgh cis-gay-male
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From United States
Posted May 12, 2014
Gandos: People constantly say that Steam is the least obtrusive form of DRM, but that's not actually true. The CD check version of SecuROM was the least obtrusive form of DRM to the point that it hardly qualified as DRM, since it didn't prevent you from doing almost anything you wanted with your game (whether it be to back it up, borrow it or sell it).
That's because it [disk check] is not actually DRM. (But yeah, Steam's an awful thing and I really wish it'd vanish.)