I can't understand why it's so hard to accept that COD and Halo are actually good games. They certainly have their merits. I don't get all the hate on modern FPSes, seriously. It's ok if you don't enjoy them, but there is so much over reaction on this. People seem to think that COD is the responsible for everything that's wrong in the game's industry. If a game sucks, blame COD. I don't get it.

By the way i don't understand why linear gameplay is a problem. Unless i'm getting crazy or something, i think some of the most famous PC FPSes are just as linear as Halo or COD, like Half Life.

Well, i'm 4 hours into the campaign already and i haven't finished it. It may be 5 to 6 hours long, but not 4, unless it's a speed run or something. As for the AI, it's definitely decent, just like in previous Halo games. Yes, Cortana doesn't shut up. It doesn't annoy me, but i guess it might annoy some people. The story is more focused on Cortana this time, so it does make sense to see her talk more often.

Now, it certainly brings new things to the table, there's a whole new type of enemy to begin with. This is the first Halo that you get to fight something other than the Covenant and the Flood. This results in a few gameplay changes. You can't fight the Prometheans the same way you fight the Covenant. Also, there are many new weapons. The storytelling is way more mature than Bungie's games. It did change a few things, but it was expected that they wouldn't change the main formula that has always worked so well.

The only thing that remains pretty much the same is the multiplayer. The only difference is that you have to unlock stuff now like in COD.

I once tried playing the Halo pc port - it was the biggest WTF moment in my gaming career. Needless to say I'm skipping all Halo news through my ears and eyes like spam ever since, but I made an exception this time and posted lol

Ok, enought of elitism, for fuck's sake. I can understand why some people don't like COD, Halo and Battlefield. But claiming that they are bad games is just pure elitism. There's nothing objectively wrong with them. They're well produced, balanced, polished, the gameplay is tight and varied enough to keep the player interested.

You may not like the linear design and the way the game "holds" the hand of the player, but that's subjective.

By the way gaming has never been so great. There plenty of independent studios that still make old-school titles and there are many legends of the game's industry making a comeback through kickstarter. COD will not affect you or kill the industry, chill out.
No, it's not the rest of the campaign, it's the multiplayer. And unless i missed something you have to install it, you can't run it from the DVD.

When i fired up the multiplayer for the first time the game asked for the second disc and said that i could either install it or download it from Live. When i put the second DVD there was only one option on the screen: install. So i guess there is no way to play multiplayer without installing it.

no ones being elitist that's just my OPINION. theirs many games i like that, i know people don't like them. but i don't see the need too get all anal about it.

i like JRPGs i know a lot of people find them childish and boring but i don't let that upset me, might of went to far calling them a cancer. each to there own, be a pretty boring place if we all liked the samethings

I wish it was, since I still very much prefer using a mouse over a gamepad for FPS games. That hasn't completely stopped me from playing FPS games on (older) consoles, but so far there has always been an uneasy feel to it, a bit like if I had to play a flight sim with a keyboard only, or use the mouse with my left hand. I can get used to it, but still...

The lack of mouse would probably be my reason to "hate" console FPS games in general.

Back near the beginning of the generation it was everyone's favorite punching bag. Until CoD grabbed the genre by its ballsack, and they moved on to that.
That's basically the reason I haven't kept up with the Halo series. I suppose I could get used to gamepads if I wanted to, but there are tons of games on the PC I'm more interested in anyway, so there's no reason.

Yes... and you tried to make it into a statement of fact, which it isn't.

Wow, grow up dude. People have different tastes. Yours are not more correct, nor are they better.

A few people REALLY need to grow the Hell up a bit. Good grief.

Agreed, there's no way you can call that a 4 hour campaign, in 4 hours I was 1/3 the way through, and that's on Normal difficulty. Let's assume I suck, I don't really think I do, but for the sake of argument. Say a good player can get where I am on Hard in 4 hours. So... Legendary? Yeah, bullshit you can do 4 hours.

Oh yeah, free campaign missions online that extend the story. No project 10 dollar (no codes to play online). Content unlocks in Halo Waypoint. No cover based brown shooter?

The PC elitists complaining about Halo 4 really are hypocrites. It's "everything that's wrong with shooters today" except it does the exact opposite of the majority of the shit they are so fond of bitching about...

MS not only deserves credit for publishing a good game, along with 343 for developing it, they also deserve credit for not doing most of the bullshit that is common practice in the industry today.

Regardless of whether one likes it or not (hey if one can't stand dual analog shooters or something specific to Halo, fine, I get that) it is a great example of how I wish more games would be done these days.

I know this sounds bad, but orcishgamer stop picking on the PC Elitist its not their fault they have been denied of PC made games and shoddy ports. I mean look at the great games GOG has combined with Blizzard, Valve, Bethesda,Lucasarts etc. and look at PC gaming now, DRM,Shit ports,few single-player games, and disrespect from publishers because of piracy.

So far PC gaming has been saved by indies and few dedicated PC studios like Bohemia and CDProjeckt RED and GOG.

I mostly grew up with consoles, but I understand why PC elitist are like this.

I understand why PC gamers get mad (though they could behave better about it, oftentimes). But constantly saying the toys you want so badly are shit, regardless of their merit, gets old and isn't going to win anyone to their cause.

There still are great PC games if one refuses to play anything else, I'm not quite sure why PC only gamers limit themselves in some cases. So many good games everywhere...

I'll be buying Far Cry 3 on PC, I think, it looks gorgeous.

AND BACK TO HALO 4:

Halo Waypoint is addictive, this game has made it more so. Oh yeah, and I really suck at Halo multiplayer, I'd forgotten. Spartan Ops Campaign rocks my socks though!

I know that it looks gorgeuos along with Battlefield 3, Halo 4, and the upcoming Arma 3 and Crysis 3 and it makes me realize, how is Unreal Engine 4 is considered the Next Gen Graphics when these games are already breathtaking. :)

Well, looks as if Halo 4 is the first FPS to forever ban those with sexist talk and whatnot. I was wondering why the hubby said chat is pretty quiet on there esp. no trash talking and stuff.

http://www.cheatcc.com/extra/dailydispatch/halo4punishessexism.html?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_35822#.UJ28p4fBGSo