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Posted October 06, 2013
I was sick of them a long time ago.
Posted October 06, 2013
Vampires are just beginning to slow down, just wait for 3 years and zombies will start going off too ....you can precipitate that if you force a new group in the pipeline. Dark elves should have their turn !
Posted October 06, 2013
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DieRuhe: I was sick of them a long time ago.
But you still haven't turned, so that's a plus...
Posted October 06, 2013
Not yet. There are at most 2 high profile zombie movies per year and I haven't been exposed to too many zombie themed games.

I classify zombie movies along the line of disaster/post-apocalyptic movies. It's about survival.

I do think that compared to vampires, zombies offer a more limited range of narratives so it's harder to be original with it though it does happen (you can say what you will about Warm Bodies' execution, the concept was original). I'm a bit jaded about it I guess, but not sick of it yet.

Heck, I'm not even sick of vampires yet, though I am bored with the limited range of narratives they extracted from it so far which is less excusable for vampires. Also, I do get tired of the "everything but the kitchen sink" supernatural mytho they give to a lot vampire movies or series. They frequently stick in witches, werewolves, a string of elder vampires, each more ancient and badass then the last one, plus sometimes ghosts, demons, faerie and whatnot to the storyline, to make up for their lack of storytelling prowess I guess.

That being said, I do filter out some of the stuff which gives my "sick with it" meter some added longevity. I haven't watched any of the Twilight movies for example.

Really, the crux of it is that any theme is lame with two-bit storytellers trying to cash in on whatever trend is cool at the present.
Post edited October 06, 2013 by Magnitus
Posted October 06, 2013
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Potzato: Vampires are just beginning to slow down, just wait for 3 years and zombies will start going off too ....you can precipitate that if you force a new group in the pipeline. Dark elves should have their turn !
Dark Elves already got their turn in the 90s, with teenie idol Drizzt Do'Urden spearheading an avalanche of utterly mediocre fiction.

I think it's high time that we're showing insect people some love. For decades they have been limited to cheap horror flicks ("The Fly") and creepy/crawly porn. The last author who respected their situation was Kafka in 1912. It's high time that we get some Beverly Hills 90120 spinoff that shows their day-to-day problems of using public transportation, finding partners for sex, and generally living in a world obsessed with personal hygiene.
Post edited October 06, 2013 by Psyringe
Posted October 06, 2013
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Psyringe: I think it's high time that we're showing insect people some love. For decades they have been limited to cheap horror flicks ("The Fly") and creepy/crawly porn. The last author who respected their situation was Kafka in 1912. It's high time that we get some Beverly Hills 90120 spinoff that shows their day-to-day problems of using public transportation, finding partners for sex, and generally living in a world obsessed with personal hygiene.
I'm fairly certain RTL already broadcasted something along those lines. If not, they're probably making plans for it.
Posted October 06, 2013
The next trend will be tree frogs with a speech impediment.


MAKE IT HAPPEN HOLLYWOOD!!!
Posted October 06, 2013
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Magnitus: I do think that compared to vampires, zombies offer a more limited range of narratives so it's harder to be original with it though it does happen (you can say what you will about Warm Bodies' execution, the concept was original). I'm a bit jaded about it I guess, but not sick of it yet.

Heck, I'm not even sick of vampires yet, though I am bored with the limited range of narratives they extracted from it so far which is less excusable for vampires. Also, I do get tired of the "everything but the kitchen sink" supernatural mytho they give to a lot vampire movies or series. They frequently stick in witches, werewolves, a string of elder vampires, each more ancient and badass then the last one, plus sometimes ghosts, demons, faerie and whatnot to the storyline, to make up for their lack of storytelling prowess I guess.
To be honest it's about maturity of the writing for the lack of a better expression or explanation. The problem is that some themes, like zombies or vampires, but other supernatural stuff too are all attached to pre-conceived notions so it's hard to try and come up with anything original without blowing it over instead of rehashing it but with a better, new style.

For example, just look like at Twilight. I wonder how successful (cash, not critical accalim) it would have been without the cliché romance that attracted so many young girls (or even older).

I would prefer if they focus on a deep storyline(s) without stereotypes with actual lore and explanations instead of "it's something mystical" or "unknownable". Supernatural documentary but with mature drama if you will. That is what I would want regardless of theme, even with zombies. Of course trying to pitch that to a capitalistic producer would be almost pointless.
Posted October 06, 2013
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djranis: as far as i see zombies became part of our lives, you see them everywhere just like your neighbour
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CharlesGrey: As a matter of fact, I even get those two mixed up sometimes.
good thing you dont live in texas + you dont have a shotgun or chainsaw
Posted October 06, 2013
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CharlesGrey: As a matter of fact, I even get those two mixed up sometimes.
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djranis: good thing you dont live in texas + you dont have a shotgun or chainsaw
As a former Texan, I reserve the right to be offended at that stereotype!

And even if there wasn't a stereotype, I'd like to advertise my birth town anyway.
Posted October 07, 2013
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Nirth: To be honest it's about maturity of the writing for the lack of a better expression or explanation. The problem is that some themes, like zombies or vampires, but other supernatural stuff too are all attached to pre-conceived notions so it's hard to try and come up with anything original without blowing it over instead of rehashing it but with a better, new style.
I find that the immortality and timelessness aspect of vampires has always been the most downplayed aspect of vampires in vampire movies and yet, in my opinion, it's the most significant aspect of vampires (even before the whole bloodsucking part).

It's always used as a plot element to determine why he shouldn't be with the human girls or why he knows that character from way back when, but little else.

For example, you don't get a sense of the great patience that a being that has lived several centuries and expects to live several more would have or the maturity and vast amount of knowledge that such a being would have accumulated. A vamp that is several hundreds of years old displaying issues that young adults have? Really? Please, think granpa on steroids in a young person's body.

Heck, I'd dig a series where you follow the evolution of a vampire throughout centuries of time (and I'm not talking about flashbacks, I'm talking about a series that starts in the middle ages and end in the present day or even later).

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Nirth: For example, just look like at Twilight. I wonder how successful (cash, not critical accalim) it would have been without the cliché romance that attracted so many young girls (or even older).
Yeah, they always go for the teenage girl or young women in her twenties even though they probably wouldn't click at all emotionally.

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Nirth: I would prefer if they focus on a deep storyline(s) without stereotypes with actual lore and explanations instead of "it's something mystical" or "unknownable". Supernatural documentary but with mature drama if you will. That is what I would want regardless of theme, even with zombies. Of course trying to pitch that to a capitalistic producer would be almost pointless.
Actually, I find they tend to overplay the lore and downplay the overall storyline.

I'd like more human moments in vamp movies/series and I'm not just talking the caricature of the tortured vamp seeking redemption (c'mon, if he's several centuries old, he'd either have gone over it, comitted suicide or gone completely insane by now).
Post edited October 07, 2013 by Magnitus
Posted October 07, 2013
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Magnitus: For example, you don't get a sense of the great patience that a being that has lived several centuries and expects to live several more would have or the maturity and vast amount of knowledge that such a being would have accumulated. A vamp that is several hundreds of years old displaying issues that young adults have? Really? Please, think granpa on steroids in a young person's body.
Indeed, but in a way it's fitting although not as much as they portray in typical fiction. Imagine losing your parents and friends then realizing you need to hurt people to survive so it becomes to easier to become a lone wolf (or let's say join a pack of others similar to you). Survival becomes much more important and deep rooted than typical existance, this is usually emphazised that the blood hunger is over-the-top all the time and fills you with a drug like effect so whatever horrible choice you have to make will be "gone" once you acquire it. In The Vampire Diaries they call it "switch off" or "humanity off". They gain some kind of ability to turn off their emotions, good and bad. I'm sure some similar effect exist in other fictional work to make the pain go away so they can continue do what they do. After all, as they're portrayed vampires aren't inherently evil, it's only in their nature.

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Magnitus: Heck, I'd dig a series where you follow the evolution of a vampire throughout centuries of time (and I'm not talking about flashbacks, I'm talking about a series that starts in the middle ages and end in the present day or even later).
I'm a sucker for flashbacks but I would definitely watch a show like that especially if they would be able to, well, sort of make a person abstract and complicated, kind of like how they did with Doctor Who but without the recycles but he will change part of his personality over time as he grows more experienced.

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Magnitus: Actually, I find they tend to overplay the lore and downplay the overall storyline.

I'd like more human moments in vamp movies/series and I'm not just talking the caricature of the tortured vamp seeking redemption (c'mon, if he's several centuries old, he'd either have gone over it, comitted suicide or gone completely insane by now).
Lore is required in some to establish the reason for why supernaturality exist in a fictional work in my opinion so some focus, not necessarily directly connected to the main storyline, will be needed. I agree about redemption stuff, that's overplayed.
Posted October 07, 2013
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Psyringe: Zombies? Sick?

Come to think of it, there's really a lot of zombies running around lately. And after my last visit to a zombie night club, I indeed feel a bit sick. I'm not sure, it feels a bit strange, but ... BRAIIIIIIINS!!!
That's a perfect comment with your avatar.
Posted October 07, 2013
I'm sick and tired of the entire undead fad to be honest. There's something unsettling in people's fascination with zombies. Where is this coming from? Do people feel so isolated and displaced from other human beings they see everyobne else as brainless masses out to get you?
Posted October 07, 2013
Semi-relevant (or at least the second half of the video is).
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