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anjohl: Theists believe without proof that there is a god.

Atheists believe without proof that there can be no god. Two sides of the same coin, not opposed.
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Darling_Jimmy: That is a misconception. You are confusing atheism with antitheism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNDZb0KtJDk
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As the old saying goes, calling atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair colour, or saying that "off" is a television channel.

Atheism can be either the belief that there is no God or the simple lack of belief either way. A child born with no knowledge of God or religion is an atheist. A person isolated from the world and grew up never encountering a religious idea is an atheist. It denotes the simple lack of belief, nothing more.
Post edited January 25, 2013 by Talby
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anjohl: Theists believe without proof that there is a god.

Atheists believe without proof that there can be no god. Two sides of the same coin, not opposed.
A lack a proof is not the same as saying that there is no evidence one way or the other. However, there is logical proof that God necessarily exists.

Belief is dangerous. Like arguments about music or politics, it can never be resolved or quantified, hence the eternal nature of our fight against it. Belief is the root of all evil, not money or people.
There are many things that we believe, some are good, some are bad. On the other hand, the love of money always leads to evil.
Post edited January 25, 2013 by Soyeong
I can't tell if you guys are aware that he's trolling again with the atheist thing
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Talby: As the old saying goes, calling atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair colour, or saying that "off" is a television channel.
Or abstinence is a sex position.
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CaptainGyro: I can't tell if you guys are aware that he's trolling again with the atheist thing
Killjoy :(
Post edited January 25, 2013 by Darling_Jimmy
Poe's Law is in effect, then.

BTW Darling_Jimmy, I knew that link went to Qualia Soup before I clicked on it. :P
It's funny how an unpopular opinion and/or dissent is classified as trolling. You can only BELIEVE there is no god, you cannot KNOW, so thus atheism is a BELIEF system that devalues observation and rationality, like all other religions.
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CaptainGyro: I can't tell if you guys are aware that he's trolling again with the atheist thing
http://i.imgur.com/fda0r3Q.gif
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CaptainGyro: I can't tell if you guys are aware that he's trolling again with the atheist thing
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kromcita: http://i.imgur.com/fda0r3Q.gif
Are you telling me to read thread before I post? Because I already knew he was trolling, and I already knew that some knew. It's not clear if everybody knew that he was trolling though
Post edited January 25, 2013 by CaptainGyro
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anjohl: It's funny how an unpopular opinion and/or dissent is classified as trolling. You can only BELIEVE there is no god, you cannot KNOW, so thus atheism is a BELIEF system that devalues observation and rationality, like all other religions.
Put some of those observational skills and rationality to work then, and read what people have written. :P
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Talby: As the old saying goes, calling atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair colour, or saying that "off" is a television channel.
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Darling_Jimmy: Or abstinence is a sex position.
Or 'not playing football' is a sport...

I don't really see why the religious get so funny with atheists. They are atheists themselves with respect to 99% of all the gods that have ever been worshipped. We proper atheists just take it one god further...

PS - Atheism is not a belief ;)
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htown1980: Some of your comments were not political in nature
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anjohl: Manifesto-ish/political?
First: YPB8?
I don't know if it was a type-o or what but one of em was just a bunch of letters and numbers and stuff... You should prolly proof read before you post nest tome
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Darling_Jimmy: Killjoy :(
I dunno man I personally find that killing troll threads is pretty entertaining in it's own way. Also see my title under my username
Post edited January 25, 2013 by CaptainGyro
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anjohl: It's funny how an unpopular opinion and/or dissent is classified as trolling. You can only BELIEVE there is no god, you cannot KNOW, so thus atheism is a BELIEF system that devalues observation and rationality, like all other religions.
When you break it down. You could argue that you can't really know anything...
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anjohl: - System Shock II is not as good as you remember it.
Blasphemy!!!