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mystikmind2000: Never in my life have i purchased a 'brand name' desktop, doubt i ever will (Usually i buy on Ebay from an Ebay store). I did purchase a Toshiba laptop, (Qosmio), it has been an exceptional machine so i convinced my boss at work to switch to Toshiba from Dell and they are just so much better. I used to assume Dell must be better because of the advantage they gain from skipping the middle man, but i have come to learn that they are not passing on any of that advantage to their customers at all, never were.

Edit: Do Toshiba make desktops? i would trust that machine!
Has Toshiba fixed their overheating problems with their laptops. Ever person I've ever known with one of those has it die soon after the warranty.
And people complain about Sony, but I have had no problems with mine...even handing old ones down to family that still work to this day. Unfortunately Sony is getting out of the laptop business, so I am not looking forward to my next purchase...Just bought this one Aug 2012. Another two years out of this one and then I have that to look forward to.
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mystikmind2000: Never in my life have i purchased a 'brand name' desktop, doubt i ever will (Usually i buy on Ebay from an Ebay store). I did purchase a Toshiba laptop, (Qosmio), it has been an exceptional machine so i convinced my boss at work to switch to Toshiba from Dell and they are just so much better. I used to assume Dell must be better because of the advantage they gain from skipping the middle man, but i have come to learn that they are not passing on any of that advantage to their customers at all, never were.

Edit: Do Toshiba make desktops? i would trust that machine!
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jjsimp: Has Toshiba fixed their overheating problems with their laptops. Ever person I've ever known with one of those has it die soon after the warranty.
And people complain about Sony, but I have had no problems with mine...even handing old ones down to family that still work to this day. Unfortunately Sony is getting out of the laptop business, so I am not looking forward to my next purchase...Just bought this one Aug 2012. Another two years out of this one and then I have that to look forward to.
Oh that would be such a shame if they stopped! Their laptops have such a supreme reputation..... and I have never heard about any heat problem at all? But yes i have noticed our Toshiba laptop does get hot - presumably because it is so much more powerful (if not on paper then in 'real' performance).

Another thing, two years ago my wife spilled a whole glass of water on the keyboard of our Qosmio laptop. I told her to turn it off immediately and wait till the next day, the next day it was completely dead. I looked on YouTube and got a video on how to take it apart, i did so and found water trapped under plastic sheeting here and there. Cleaned it up thoroughly, put it back together (not expecting it to work) and it worked just fine! I had expected it to fail at some point after that but it has been running perfectly ever since!! Now if that is not a good testament on the quality of Toshiba laptops, i don't know what is!
Nevermind, website doesn't ship to AU.
Post edited March 19, 2014 by YellowAries
I'd honestly say to order parts online and build it yourself. It's tons of fun!
If you want to try building a PC yourself, feel free to PM me on GOG for help with finding parts and what not. I've built plenty of custom PC's (~8) and I know my stuff.

List of AU sites to try.

https://www.pccasegear.com
http://www.scorptec.com.au
http://au.pcpartpicker.com
http://www.jw.com.au
http://www.mwave.com.au
http://www.centrecom.com.au
http://www.pcmarket.com.au
http://www.techbuy.com.au
Post edited March 19, 2014 by YellowAries
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YellowAries: If you want to try building a PC yourself, feel free to PM me on GOG for help with finding parts and what not. I've built plenty of custom PC's (~8) and I know my stuff.

List of AU sites to try.

https://www.pccasegear.com
http://www.scorptec.com.au
http://au.pcpartpicker.com
http://www.jw.com.au
http://www.mwave.com.au
http://www.centrecom.com.au
http://www.pcmarket.com.au
http://www.techbuy.com.au
Thank you! that is a generous offer.

As far as actually building the PC, that is a snap, i could do it with my eyes closed. The big time consuming part is installing the OS, but easy enough. Where it often tends to get complicated is installing drivers and or getting things working the way you want them too.
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mystikmind2000: Snip

I don't know if you've ever used an SSD before, I haven't until today... but I can now say they are REALLY fast! I mean, I installed Windows 7 in literally 5 minutes. It makes the tedious less tedious.

If you are skilled at building your own computer, then go for it... no point in spending extra money for someone else to do it...

Though, the FX series AMD CPUs are pretty awesome, I have an FX 8120... but honestly, if I could do my build over I would go with a Core i5 or an i7. The only problem with the FX CPUs is that they have weak single thread performance... and believe it or not, it does make a pretty big difference.
Post edited March 19, 2014 by YellowAries
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YellowAries:
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YellowAries:

I don't know if you've ever used an SSD before, I haven't until today... but I can now say they are REALLY fast! I mean, I installed Windows 7 in literally 5 minutes. It makes the tedious less tedious.

If you are skilled at building your own computer, then go for it... no point in spending extra money for someone else to do it...
Wanna make your Windows install faster, just put it on a USB3 flash drive and install from that. You will never want to install from a CD again.
You could build such a great machine with that budget...

Just spend a few days on google if you don't know how and build it yourself.. It's not hard at all.
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jjsimp: Snip

Yeah true, but i'm too lazy to do that. I'll stick to my CD and SSD installs. =Þ
Post edited March 19, 2014 by YellowAries
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mystikmind2000: Where it often tends to get complicated is installing drivers and or getting things working the way you want them too.
Drivers are a simple affair. Just download drivers from the manufacturers website before you install, Windows service packs, and security programs. Copy them all to a flash drive and install after the OS in this order.

1st Chipset

the rest don't really matter

2nd Service packs
3rd Video card drivers
4th Sound
5th Any other device drivers (mouse, gamepads, etc)
6th Network
7th Antivrus program
8th run windows update over and over and over and over and over and over and over until there's no more (Geez, Microsoft why can't we get a simple rollup of windows updates once they reach more than one reboot).

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YellowAries: Yeah true, but i'm too lazy to do that. I'll stick to my CD and SSD installs. =Þ
Incredibly lazy. For Win 7 you just have to copy the contents of the ISO/CD to the root of the drive.
Post edited March 19, 2014 by jjsimp
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Oh, that's easy... I thought you were talking about making like an iso image of my PC after the OS is installed with all the updates and drivers etc...
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mystikmind2000: Where it often tends to get complicated is installing drivers and or getting things working the way you want them too.
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jjsimp: Drivers are a simple affair. Just download drivers from the manufacturers website before you install, Windows service packs, and security programs. Copy them all to a flash drive and install after the OS in this order.
No doubt installing drivers is easy, what i meant was that it can be very difficult and tricky if a problem does occur.

In almost every computer i have ever built, installing divers have taken the most of my time - but admittedly i do spend allot of time making sure i have the best possible drivers, and that their functioning properly.
Post edited March 19, 2014 by mystikmind2000
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YellowAries:
Oh, that's easy... I thought you were talking about making like an iso image of my PC after the OS is installed with all the updates and drivers etc...
The only trouble you may have is with UEFI and secure boot, but it is a very easy thing to do. Even XP you can do that with, but it is a little more complicated with an additional program called rufus.

As far as slipstreaming (putting all the updates in your windows CD), even I am to lazy to do that.
Post edited March 19, 2014 by jjsimp
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Weird... It only takes me about an hour to install the OS, Drivers, and Applications I use...

Installing games is a lot longer though ^_^