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foxworks: In all the above posts no one has mentioned Jack Keane nor Jack Keane 2? Oh the humanity :p
They're actually really fun games, but if there's something they don't have, it's a dark setting and occult background :P
Shadow of Destiny (Memories) - Greatest story ever told! (you'll have to emulate it though)

Journey of a Roach - Surprisingly good and clean if you have children watching (puzzles are geared for teen-level intellect so not a kiddy game) . http://store.steampowered.com/app/255300/

The Cat Lady - I thought it was going to be horribly stupid (and it is) but it really gets your attention and is hard to put down. I really liked how the official opening doesn't take place until about forty-five minutes in and is introduced with death metal.
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mystikmind2000: Dungeonsiege 2 is brilliant!

If you can get the boxed version on disk, it lets you do the campaign in co-operative mode with only the one game copy installed on two computers.

I played through the campaign with my wife, we had so much fun. Never been able to do that with any other game ever since because either the co-operative campaign option is not there or playing from two computer with one game copy is not allowed. (These problems are what make Consoles so popular)
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Aveweto: dungeon siege 2 is from my perspective and standards an rpg game and not an adventure
I get it, in an adventure game you don't play a role, and in a role playing game, there is no adventure, understood.
well so far ive got me the humble weekly bundle and thinking bout the fusion bundle from bundlestars coz of the cat lady and another title
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Aveweto: dungeon siege 2 is from my perspective and standards an rpg game and not an adventure
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mystikmind2000: I get it, in an adventure game you don't play a role, and in a role playing game, there is no adventure, understood.
thats not what i said but dungeon siege if u like it or not falls much more into the roleplaying genre than the adventure genre
Post edited February 26, 2014 by Aveweto
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Aveweto: well so far ive got me the humble weekly bundle and thinking bout the fusion bundle from bundlestars coz of the cat lady and another title
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mystikmind2000: I get it, in an adventure game you don't play a role, and in a role playing game, there is no adventure, understood.
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Aveweto: thats not what i said but dungeon siege if u like it or not falls much more into the roleplaying genre than the adventure genre
I don't really understand what make an adventure game an adventure game and not an RPG anyway. So i looked it up on the internet and found this quote:

"Technically, just about every game could be considered a role playing game (RPG) since you are playing as someone, and almost every game could be considered an Adventure game since you usually undertake some adventure."

However it went on to explain that Adventure games tend to have less emphasis on character development and more emphasis on exploration and puzzle solving.

In which case a game like Turok is an adventure game right?
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mystikmind2000: I don't really understand what make an adventure game an adventure game and not an RPG anyway. So i looked it up on the internet and found this quote:

"Technically, just about every game could be considered a role playing game (RPG) since you are playing as someone, and almost every game could be considered an Adventure game since you usually undertake some adventure."
That's just pointing out in a tongue-in-cheek way how imprecise and vague the genre names are.

For once wikipedia is good enough:
"An adventure game is a video game in which the player assumes the role of protagonist in an interactive story driven by exploration and puzzle-solving.
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Combat and action challenges are limited or absent in adventure games, thus distinguishing them from action games.
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Adventure games are also distinct from role-playing video games that involve action, team-building, and points management. Adventure games lack the numeric rules or relationships seen in role-playing games, and seldom have an internal economy. These games lack any skill system, combat, or "an opponent to be defeated through strategy and tactics."

So no (or minimal) action and combat, with focus on puzzle solving, exploration and/or dialogues instead.
Post edited February 26, 2014 by MoP
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Aveweto: well so far ive got me the humble weekly bundle and thinking bout the fusion bundle from bundlestars coz of the cat lady and another title

thats not what i said but dungeon siege if u like it or not falls much more into the roleplaying genre than the adventure genre
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mystikmind2000: I don't really understand what make an adventure game an adventure game and not an RPG anyway. So i looked it up on the internet and found this quote:

"Technically, just about every game could be considered a role playing game (RPG) since you are playing as someone, and almost every game could be considered an Adventure game since you usually undertake some adventure."

However it went on to explain that Adventure games tend to have less emphasis on character development and more emphasis on exploration and puzzle solving.

In which case a game like Turok is an adventure game right?
Though these genre and sub-genre classifications I'm about to give are prone to subjectivity, do take into account I'm just an old guy who grew up playing point-and-click adventure games and forgive some of the eventual outdated knowledge.

Turok is kind of an adventure. Like you said, every kind of game can, widely speaking, be considered an adventure or a role playing game, but it's generally accepted that "pure" adventure games are more like... interactive novels or movies. Examples of adventure games are Dark Seed, the Gabriel Knight series, Loom, the Myst series, the Broken Sword series, Grim Fandango, I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, or, in more recent terms, most of Telltale's games (Walking Dead, Wolf Among Us, etc). Adventure games are usually slow-paced and if/when they have action scenes these are highly choreographed, and in older games tended to rely on reflexes and timed events.

When an adventure game had more intense, action-oriented gameplay, we used to call those games "action-adventure" (Legacy of Kain series -- post-Silicon Knights --, early Tomb Raider games, Shadow Man, or more recently Psychonauts). Turok would have been considered an action-adventure, if it wasn't for the fact it was in first person perspective and relied way more on shooting things than actual puzzling and adventuring, thus making it an FPS -- first person shooter --, rather than an action-adventure. Usually, action-adventure games were in third person perspective, though some innovative games challenged genre definitions back in the day (Half-Life, Deus Ex), and can definitely be seen as, among other things, action-adventure games.

"Pure" adventure games were deemed dead a long time ago, mostly due to the FPS genre flooding the market during the late 1990's/early 2000's, but it has seen a strong resurgence in the past years, due to the efforts of small indie studios like Wadjet Eye, Daedalic and the huge boost that was Tim Schafer's Kickstarter success, "Double Fine Adventure" (now Broken Age). Telltale was greatly influential as well, after some lukewarm received titles, with their critically acclaimed The Walking Dead episodic adventure games which, whether we like it or not, undoubtedly put adventure games back under the mainstream spotlight once again.

I hope this somewhat confused explanation helped, but, when all's said and done, my advice would be: enjoy your games, regardless of genre, sub-genre, sub-sub-genre, whatever! If you think Turok is an adventure game, there's nothing wrong with that -- just make sure you're aware of the definition that is considered "the standard norm", so you can communicate with other people with the minimal amount of misunderstanding: Turok is an FPS. The point is: enjoy Turok. Enjoy Baldur's Gate, The Cat Lady, Skyrim, Peggle, Syndicate, Street Fighter, Super Mario, independently of genre, as long as you're having great experiences and good fun with your games.
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mystikmind2000: I don't really understand what make an adventure game an adventure game and not an RPG anyway. So i looked it up on the internet and found this quote:

"Technically, just about every game could be considered a role playing game (RPG) since you are playing as someone, and almost every game could be considered an Adventure game since you usually undertake some adventure."
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MoP: That's just pointing out in a tongue-in-cheek way how imprecise and vague the genre names are.

For once wikipedia is good enough:
"An adventure game is a video game in which the player assumes the role of protagonist in an interactive story driven by exploration and puzzle-solving.
...
Adventure games are also distinct from role-playing video games that involve action, team-building, and points management. Adventure games lack the numeric rules or relationships seen in role-playing games, and seldom have an internal economy. These games lack any skill system, combat, or "an opponent to be defeated through strategy and tactics."

So no (or minimal) action and combat, with focus on puzzle solving, exploration and/or dialogues instead.
Yea Turok It is an FPS (first person shooter).

The only game i have played that would have any chance at all of coming close are as i mentioned Dungeonsiege 2. That is the best i can offer as a suggestion, take it or leave it.
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mystikmind2000: I don't really understand what make an adventure game an adventure game and not an RPG anyway. So i looked it up on the internet and found this quote:

"Technically, just about every game could be considered a role playing game (RPG) since you are playing as someone, and almost every game could be considered an Adventure game since you usually undertake some adventure."

However it went on to explain that Adventure games tend to have less emphasis on character development and more emphasis on exploration and puzzle solving.

In which case a game like Turok is an adventure game right?
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groze: Though these genre and sub-genre classifications I'm about to give are prone to subjectivity, do take into account I'm just an old guy who grew up playing point-and-click adventure games and forgive some of the eventual outdated knowledge.

Turok is kind of an adventure. Like you said, every kind of game can, widely speaking, be considered an adventure or a role playing game, but it's generally accepted that "pure" adventure games are more like... interactive novels or movies. Examples of adventure games are Dark Seed, the Gabriel Knight series, Loom, the Myst series, the Broken Sword series, Grim Fandango, I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream, or, in more recent terms, most of Telltale's games (Walking Dead, Wolf Among Us, etc). Adventure games are usually slow-paced and if/when they have action scenes these are highly choreographed, and in older games tended to rely on reflexes and timed events.

When an adventure game had more intense, action-oriented gameplay, we used to call those games "action-adventure" (Legacy of Kain series -- post-Silicon Knights --, early Tomb Raider games, Shadow Man, or more recently Psychonauts). Turok would have been considered an action-adventure, if it wasn't for the fact it was in first person perspective and relied way more on shooting things than actual puzzling and adventuring, thus making it an FPS -- first person shooter --, rather than an action-adventure. Usually, action-adventure games were in third person perspective, though some innovative games challenged genre definitions back in the day (Half-Life, Deus Ex), and can definitely be seen as, among other things, action-adventure games.

"Pure" adventure games were deemed dead a long time ago, mostly due to the FPS genre flooding the market during the late 1990's/early 2000's, but it has seen a strong resurgence in the past years, due to the efforts of small indie studios like Wadjet Eye, Daedalic and the huge boost that was Tim Schafer's Kickstarter success, "Double Fine Adventure" (now Broken Age). Telltale was greatly influential as well, after some lukewarm received titles, with their critically acclaimed The Walking Dead episodic adventure games which, whether we like it or not, undoubtedly put adventure games back under the mainstream spotlight once again.

I hope this somewhat confused explanation helped, but, when all's said and done, my advice would be: enjoy your games, regardless of genre, sub-genre, sub-sub-genre, whatever! If you think Turok is an adventure game, there's nothing wrong with that -- just make sure you're aware of the definition that is considered "the standard norm", so you can communicate with other people with the minimal amount of misunderstanding: Turok is an FPS. The point is: enjoy Turok. Enjoy Baldur's Gate, The Cat Lady, Skyrim, Peggle, Syndicate, Street Fighter, Super Mario, independently of genre, as long as you're having great experiences and good fun with your games.
Well said, thanks.

I did not even realize i have never played an adventure game until this thread! I now know the genre is not to my taste, that along with Sims, and minecraft!

And i played Tomb raider - but did not like it.
Post edited February 26, 2014 by mystikmind2000
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mystikmind2000: And i played Tomb raider - but did not like it.
Classic Tomb Raider or the new one?
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mystikmind2000: And i played Tomb raider - but did not like it.
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zaine-h: Classic Tomb Raider or the new one?
I don't know? All i know is that Acrobatics is not overly interesting to me (unless i'm killing something).

I think the only reason i got the game is because of the movie with Angelina Jolie.... HOT!
Post edited February 26, 2014 by mystikmind2000
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51nikopol: Some other suggestions for you, Syberia (not so much atmosphere but great visuals, puzzles and a good story), The Longest Journey, The Broken Sword series and of course the classic Monkey Island series. Good luck with the search and keep pointing and clicking Aveweto.
I don't know that I agree with that recommendation. I found Syberia fairly boring and puzzles rather arbitrary at times. And for the first one, it just, stopped is probably the best word. I expected at least two more stations, then he just shows up out of the blue.


The Edna and Harvey adventures are twisted fun.