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jefequeso: You could just read back a few posts, you know -___-
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Fever_Discordia: YEAH! - You tell him!
For the record though, despite the gentle ribbing, I'm sure its awesome and I'd love it!
Same. If my computer was any good, I'd probably own it.
Children are missing from Fallout games?? that is so wrong and disappointing. :(
Down with censorship. I'm completely in favor of this :)
Personally I'd appreciate an uncensored version for two reasons. 1. It's what the developer intended. 2. It's not someone else telling me what I should and should not see.

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lukaszthegreat: which?
I heard that it's impossible to kill kids in the GOG Fallout games. But to be honest I haven't tried. Indigo Prophecy is definitely censored though.
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lukaszthegreat: Children are missing from Fallout games?? that is so wrong and disappointing. :(
No, they're present. But they are not killable in the Bethesda versions. Bethesda has a rule about not allowing children to come to harm in their games. They will also block mods that violate this rule.

It is an understandable rule, one that the gaming community has generally heeded, and one that if it were violated more often, would bring down censorship that you don't even want to imagine.
Post edited February 13, 2012 by cjrgreen
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QC: There's a little something everyone here is missing. Some of these games are banned in countries, some in Europe, some in Australia, so on. Obviously, there are people around the world using this site, we've come across gamers from China and France and Britain and Australia. Distributing games that are banned to a person within that jurisdiction would probably put the site into legal trouble with the countries. And you can't just claim negligence.

Also, it's possible that a good chunk of people here are under 21, which would also be against distribution laws towards minors if they purchased the game. I know that in either of those cases, the chances of being found with it are impossibly low, but given the option I imagine this is what the official route is going to be.

As much as I'd like to see some of the unmodified games out there, I don't think it'll happen.
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Fever_Discordia: I know you said 'Europe' but I can't believe you didn't call out Germany specifically - those guys are ridiculous!
From what I've understood Germany doesn't actually ban a lot of games. They just have this thing where AO games can't be advertised to people below 18, so they have to be hidden off the shelves. Since publishers don't want that they voluntarily censor their games in order to stay on the shelves.

I'm sure someone from Germany can correct me if I'm wrong.
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lukaszthegreat: Children are missing from Fallout games?? that is so wrong and disappointing. :(
Only from the first one though. the second one is fine.

it was for some weird legal licensing reason.
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Navagon: Indigo Prophecy is definitely censored though.
Are you talking about the GOG version? It is uncensored.
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QC: I mentioned specifically the countries that I had with total certainty I had met forum users from. Germany wasn't one of them. To be fair, Germany bans and protests a whole lot of games and books, and obviously, much of it stems from World War 2.
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Fever_Discordia: My point was to say "and also Germany is fricking ridiculous for it" - I wasn't trying to have a pop at you - I was gunning for Gerry!
You know that we can hear you over here? You Tommy ;-P!
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Fever_Discordia: My point was to say "and also Germany is fricking ridiculous for it" - I wasn't trying to have a pop at you - I was gunning for Gerry!
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SimonG: You know that we can hear you over here? You Tommy ;-P!
There's so many ways I could go here, I'm going to go with
"Oh damn, I guess that means I'm first up against the wall when they're 'third time lucky' then!"
(trying to spread the LOLs rather than spread the hate here - sincere apologies to anyone genuinely offended!)
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SimonG: You know that we can hear you over here? You Tommy ;-P!
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Fever_Discordia: There's so many ways I could go here, I'm going to go with
"Oh damn, I guess that means I'm first up against the wall when they're 'third time lucky' then!"
(trying to spread the LOLs rather than spread the hate here - sincere apologies to anyone genuinely offended!)
Well, third time is the charm, isn't it. And this time we will have the decisive advantage of not having [country retracted] as an ally!

(I'm not offended, btw. I played Risk with an american, a dutch and a two brits. I've heard it all. And it was awesome!)
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Fever_Discordia: There's so many ways I could go here, I'm going to go with
"Oh damn, I guess that means I'm first up against the wall when they're 'third time lucky' then!"
(trying to spread the LOLs rather than spread the hate here - sincere apologies to anyone genuinely offended!)
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SimonG: Well, third time is the charm, isn't it. And this time we will have the decisive advantage of not having [country retracted] as an ally!

(I'm not offended, btw. I played Risk with an american, a dutch and a two brits. I've heard it all. And it was awesome!)
(Oh I didn't think YOU were - I was more concerned about who else might be reading!)
I'm think the retracted country begins with an 'I' BTW!
Bless - they were awesome 2000 years ago - you think us Brits miss having an empire? spare a thought for those poor buggers!
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Stixsmaster: I wanted to start a petition on here.
now Gamefly the new owners have become skared shitless and took the game off the site for buy...not only that they skrewd me a reliable customer over by not providing me now with their new site design with access to my account nor to any of my previous purchases...
Log in, go to My Account, and select "Purchase History". Everything I've purchased at D2D is there, all the way back to my first purchase in 2008. True, not everything is showing up on the Gamefly client at the moment, but you can still access everything on the actual GameFly website.
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Navagon: I heard that it's impossible to kill kids in the GOG Fallout games. But to be honest I haven't tried. Indigo Prophecy is definitely censored though.
they say that it is uncut. so now gog is lieing to us?
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lukaszthegreat: Children are missing from Fallout games?? that is so wrong and disappointing. :(
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WBGhiro: Only from the first one though. the second one is fine.

it was for some weird legal licensing reason.
i based what i said on this:
http://gogwiki.com/index.php?title=List_of_censored_games
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cjrgreen: No, they're present. But they are not killable in the Bethesda versions. Bethesda has a rule about not allowing children to come to harm in their games. They will also block mods that violate this rule.

It is an understandable rule, one that the gaming community has generally heeded, and one that if it were violated more often, would bring down censorship that you don't even want to imagine.
we weren't talking about Fallout 3. I know kids are immortal there (without mods)
but about fallout 1, 2, Tactics available here on gog.

I know 1 and 2 had children which you could kill, blow up, send your deathclaw to rip them apart.
Post edited February 13, 2012 by lukaszthegreat
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lukaszthegreat: i based what i said on this:
http://gogwiki.com/index.php?title=List_of_censored_games
I'm actually fairly sure the kids are present in the second game. will check later.
Post edited February 14, 2012 by WBGhiro