Same thing - they are still seeking the truth. (BTW if you were trying to troll - you could have said what about the Women?)

Jesus went voluntarily into death.

* John 10:15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

* John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

* Matthew 26:53 53 Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels?


Afterwards He rose from the grave - there were many witnesses as to Jesus being alive after He had been crucified.

* 1 Corinthians 15 v3-8
3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.



Jesus suffered and died for us on the Cross so that believing we might have life in His name. Through his death, we have forgiveness of sins and the gift of Eternal Life.


* John 12:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

* John 3:14-18
14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

But that's the whole point!

Since you are an atheist, it will be hard for you to understand this but I'll try to explain it to you.

There are many "religions" in the world, each holding that their version of the truth is absolute and true. Obviously they cant all be correct. If one faith is correct then all other faiths must be wrong.

BTW why do you hold this charge exclusively against the Judeo-Christian religions? Hinduism cant agree with Islam. Buddhism cant agree with Judaism etc.


So you are saying you would respect others faiths provided that they don't convert anyone outside of their faith/culture?

Don't you see that if you found the truth, you would want to share it with others?


Mark 13:10 And the gospel must first be published among all nations.

@ Elmofongo - While I'd like to reply to your PM, you have blocked receiving private mesages.

This would rather create numerous sects fighting each other.
And completely off-topic, Jeff the Killer is so badly written it's painful to read :)

So suicide... And I thought christians frown upon this.

It's pretty arrogant and conceited to claim to have found the (single) truth when the majority of people doesn't agree with you. And "sharing" is a pretty euphemistic term for proselytization...

I on the the other hand believe the resurrection of this thread one of the worst cases of necromancy ;-) Zombie apocalypse is coming...

Indeed we are told that when the messiah comes the dead will come back to life. Clearly this zombie messiah and its resurrected minions will battle the flesh eating zombies created as a result of scientific mistake. That final battle between good and evil (zombies) will transform our world, as told in the Book of Revelation.

(And if nobody used this setting for a book/comic/movie/game, then they should.)

I'll leave this here. Don't you guys say I don't contribute to deep conversations.

We would never say that (unless forced by gunpoint, or fishpoint). Thanks a lot for your contribution.

I thought I blocked only messages from GOG itself like I don't want news from updates like "Hey there is a sale on GOG games now"

I will just write what I said in messages here:

From what I heard there are still jews that does not recognize Jesus or the new testament because they think Jesus has not properly fufilled the Messianic Prophocies correctly. What are the exact propheices and how is it that Judism thinks he did not fufill them properly?

As to why I hold the idea the Abrahamic Faiths are arrogant in there belief that the Abrahamic God is the True real God disregard thousands of cultures faiths and God/gods as false.

Well its my perception here since I live in a mostly Catholic island (but Protesetantism is strong here because of our Commonwealth with the US)

Since you say non Abrahamic Faiths don't agree with Abrahamic than I see. Mabye my perception will change if I ever lived in a Non Abrahamic Culture. (Which to me sounds really alien like going to Morrowind as an Imperial or Nord)

But the Abrahamic Faith is the only faith I am aware of that does commit proselytization on other societies. Not once have I heard of a Buddhist, Shinto, or Hindu, or any other faiths atttempt to convert other people and even if they do it is not as prevelent as the Abrahamic Faiths. Especially I have never seen a different faith coming to a Western country to convert potential followers. Imagine a Hindu person say comes to Spain to convert a mostly Catholic people to Hinduism?

Scientology? Hare Krishna?

We do have the Hare Krishnas here, though they are mostly rather unobtrusive in their "converting" activity. They sing and dance on the street and show how happy they are. And if you're curious they will give you some flyer.

Ninja'd...

And yes I forgot about scientology, although it's hard for me to classify them as "religion".

If Mormons and Scientoligist became there own "faiths"

How long until Bronies and Apple fans becomes a "faith?"

Also speaking of Scientology this is the best acting I have ever seen in modern movie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAQiAQROi7g

There's a prolific preacher (I forget which one) that firmly believes that all of the zombie movies/games/culture is specifically the work of the devil so that people will distrust the resurrected in Christ.