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pimpmonkey2382: Who? Soyeong? Me too.
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iippo: Your claim part - not really anything to with Soyeongs opinion though.

Science often examines things that there is no clear evidence beforehand - rather just idea or gut feelings of. The possibility of.

Anyways, what do you mean by "evidence"? We have lots of mathematics about what happens inside the blackholes for example, but no ones has been inside there to see how right or wrong they are. Its all hypothesis in the end.

Also throughout the history alot of evidence of just about, well everything is discovered to be either totally wrong or just made up in the first place. Just as times change, so do facts.

btw i am totally pro-science, its just that there really is no such thing as 100% certain proof. Heck, scientists dont even really agree on the what our reality is made out of.
That's the good thing about science, once it's proven wrong those involved will admit to it. Where as religion goes "Ah-ha! That's what god is doing!" rather than try to find out what actually is going on.
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iippo: Your claim part - not really anything to with Soyeongs opinion though.

Science often examines things that there is no clear evidence beforehand - rather just idea or gut feelings of. The possibility of.

Anyways, what do you mean by "evidence"? We have lots of mathematics about what happens inside the blackholes for example, but no ones has been inside there to see how right or wrong they are. Its all hypothesis in the end.

Also throughout the history alot of evidence of just about, well everything is discovered to be either totally wrong or just made up in the first place. Just as times change, so do facts.

btw i am totally pro-science, its just that there really is no such thing as 100% certain proof. Heck, scientists dont even really agree on the what our reality is made out of.
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pimpmonkey2382: That's the good thing about science, once it's proven wrong those involved will admit to it. Where as religion goes "Ah-ha! That's what god is doing!" rather than try to find out what actually is going on.
...so youre specialist in which religions literature exactly?
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pimpmonkey2382: That's the good thing about science, once it's proven wrong those involved will admit to it. Where as religion goes "Ah-ha! That's what god is doing!" rather than try to find out what actually is going on.
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iippo: ...so youre specialist in which religions literature exactly?
Never claimed to be one, and also never knew you had to be one in order to debate.
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iippo: ...so youre specialist in which religions literature exactly?
I am an expert on team jamotide (the god team which created all other gods), ask me anything. What is your religious specialty?
I'm a prophet of the order of orgies, and also of the angry capuchin monkey.
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iippo: ...so youre specialist in which religions literature exactly?
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pimpmonkey2382: Never claimed to be one, and also never knew you had to be one in order to debate.
certainly not, but id still dare to say stating simply

"Where as religion goes "Ah-ha! That's what god is doing!" rather than try to find out what actually is going on. "

is rather bold thing to do. I would say even underestimating religion.

....you are aware science wasnt just suddenly born out of atheism? Whole lot of serious philosophist and such are monks, clerics and what not.

btw Do you think it would scientific or non-scientific thing to believe that we do not live in entirely objective reality?
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pimpmonkey2382: Never claimed to be one, and also never knew you had to be one in order to debate.
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iippo: certainly not, but id still dare to say stating simply

"Where as religion goes "Ah-ha! That's what god is doing!" rather than try to find out what actually is going on. "

is rather bold thing to do. I would say even underestimating religion.

....you are aware science wasnt just suddenly born out of atheism? Whole lot of serious philosophist and such are monks, clerics and what not.

btw Do you think it would scientific or non-scientific thing to believe that we do not live in entirely objective reality?
No shit, if you hadn't told me, I'd have never known. [/sarcasm]
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iippo: ...so youre specialist in which religions literature exactly?
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jamotide: I am an expert on team jamotide (the god team which created all other gods), ask me anything. What is your religious specialty?
god knows :D
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iippo: certainly not, but id still dare to say stating simply

"Where as religion goes "Ah-ha! That's what god is doing!" rather than try to find out what actually is going on. "

is rather bold thing to do. I would say even underestimating religion.

....you are aware science wasnt just suddenly born out of atheism? Whole lot of serious philosophist and such are monks, clerics and what not.

btw Do you think it would scientific or non-scientific thing to believe that we do not live in entirely objective reality?
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pimpmonkey2382: No shit, if you hadn't told me, I'd have never known. [/sarcasm]
oh well, maybe its then better ill just leave you with your 1+1=2 evidence. Ive got sandwiches to eat afterall.
Post edited February 06, 2014 by iippo
Doubt it! If the universe was really created out of nothing, then the theists god is nothing. Nothing knows probably nothing!
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jamotide: Doubt it! If the universe was really created out of nothing, then the theists god is nothing. Nothing knows probably nothing!
And I created the god. He brings me hookers on wednesday afternoons.
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jamotide: Doubt it! If the universe was really created out of nothing, then the theists god is nothing. Nothing knows probably nothing!
after i eat my sandwiches the plate will have nothing on it - but does the sandwiches existence cease?
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jamotide: Doubt it! If the universe was really created out of nothing, then the theists god is nothing. Nothing knows probably nothing!
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iippo: after i eat my sandwiches the plate will have nothing on it - but does the sandwiches existence cease?
It shifts form into monkey projectiles.
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iippo: after i eat my sandwiches the plate will have nothing on it - but does the sandwiches existence cease?
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pimpmonkey2382: It shifts form into monkey projectiles.
Well it does turn to poo at somepoint, so youre right on spot there.

Anyways, seeing the world in linear "beginning" -> stuff -> "teh endz *sob* " is rather constricted. Eventually the monkey projectile will become sandwich again. Gl waiting ;)
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iippo: after i eat my sandwiches the plate will have nothing on it - but does the sandwiches existence cease?
I'm sure Seyong could tell you how your sandwich is eternal and is therefor god, but I can't manage it.
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