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bevinator: I think the issue is that Moffat has a tendency to write himself into corners, or get started developing a story without ANY IDEA where he plans for it to go.
Oddly, I don't get this impression about Moffat at all, and this is exactly what drove me nuts about Davies's story arcs ("I invented a pocket dimension no one's ever heard of before to resolve this two-episode-long crisis in the last two minutes"). Different strokes?
Post edited November 15, 2011 by nuuikle
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Delixe: I would like Paul Cornell or Andrew Cartmel but likely it will be Chris Chibnall knowing our luck.
I'd love JMS to do it as it would take it hopefully in a more intellectual direction than Hollywood tends to go and his 1 on 1 scene writing is superb.
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Delixe: I would like Paul Cornell or Andrew Cartmel but likely it will be Chris Chibnall knowing our luck.
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tarasis: I'd love JMS to do it as it would take it hopefully in a more intellectual direction than Hollywood tends to go and his 1 on 1 scene writing is superb.
no no no no no You do not put an american writer incharge of a british production it never ever ends well.

Personally I think this will just enter development hell yet again and we can just ignore it
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tarasis: I'd love JMS to do it as it would take it hopefully in a more intellectual direction than Hollywood tends to go and his 1 on 1 scene writing is superb.
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wodmarach: no no no no no You do not put an american writer incharge of a british production it never ever ends well.

Personally I think this will just enter development hell yet again and we can just ignore it
While I generally agree with your statement I would trust JMS to do right by it. However he is the only American writer that I would trust.

To your last line: You mean like the Red Dwarf movie thats been coming since the mid to late 90's :) (I remember first reading about it on Channel 4's Teletext service when they had the Entertainment news)
Post edited November 15, 2011 by tarasis
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bevinator: I liked the #3-5 Doctors, thought Eccleston was okay, loved Tennant (but not as much as Baker).
Yeah, the good old days of Pertwee, Jon; Baker, Tom and Davison, Peter <3<3<3<3<3
In order of preference : Baker, Davison, Pertwee.

These reboot series have been far too pathetically "American" for my tastes : ie - written specifically to be sold in America, and not really for UK consumption because they're so light-weight, and blindingly obvious plot "solutions".

Ecclestone was better getting stabbed in the gut, and killed by Dr Nicholas "Stargate Universe" Rush in the original "Cracker" telly-films. He probably did the right thing getting out of Who after just one series.

Tennant is where it really begins to get silly.

Smith? I'm sure he's really a good worker, but now the writing is just getting "WTF???!", more and more, and it's not helping him, at all.

This film news might be a good thing, if they move away from this Americana crap...
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wodmarach: no no no no no You do not put an american writer incharge of a british production it never ever ends well.

Personally I think this will just enter development hell yet again and we can just ignore it
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tarasis: While I generally agree with your statement I would trust JMS to do right by it. However he is the only American writer that I would trust.

To your last line: You mean like the Red Dwarf movie thats been coming since the mid to late 90's :) (I remember first reading about it on Channel 4's Teletext service when they had the Entertainment news)
one of the reasons we had to wait so long for a new series was bbc gave exclusive rights to another company for 15 years! all they produced was a single tv movie -.-
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rampancy: This is the same problem that I think is going to hamper the new BSG movie.
Wait what? I've heard they're going to make a second prequel series called "BSG: Blood and Chrome" about the first Cylon war. But what is this about a movie?

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Not enough information to go on to judge quality with this possible Dr. Who movie. However, to those who are worried, don't be too concerned. Frankly at this point, the project has more chance of never getting off the ground than actually becoming a movie. Productions which have scripts and casts attached even have a pretty high probability of never actually being made. With no script, no cast, and just a director attached to the idea of doing a Dr. Who movie, chances are rather slim this movie will ever be made. Even if it does get made, chances are good it will go through 3 or 4 directors, 2 or 3 main leads, and five scripts before reaching the silver screen. So if you don't like David Yates, again I wouldn't worry.
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rampancy: This is the same problem that I think is going to hamper the new BSG movie.
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crazy_dave: Wait what? I've heard they're going to make a second prequel series called "BSG: Blood and Chrome" about the first Cylon war. But what is this about a movie? .
At last reports Blood and Chrome has become a web series rather than a TV show and the new movie is Bryan Singer thing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica#Feature_film_.282013.29
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tarasis: Bryan Singer
*shudder*
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Lone3wolf: This film news might be a good thing, if they move away from this Americana crap...
I'm pretty sure if this film gets made, it'll be more Americanised.
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crazy_dave: Wait what? I've heard they're going to make a second prequel series called "BSG: Blood and Chrome" about the first Cylon war. But what is this about a movie? .
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tarasis: At last reports Blood and Chrome has become a web series rather than a TV show and the new movie is Bryan Singer thing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestar_Galactica#Feature_film_.282013.29
Already ninja'd by tarasis, but here's another link: http://www.slashfilm.com/bryan-singers-battlestar-galactica-movie-written-band-brothers-writer-john-orloff/

The assumption is that the movie will be an independent reboot of the franchise, but of course Singer and Orloff seem to be coy about it. That the writer did Band of Brothers is a good sign of course, but then again, he was the man who wrote the astonishing disappointment that was Legend of the Guardians.
I shall unleash the other horrors from the Time War, sealed in the Time Lock, not only the Daleks, but the Skaro Degradations, the Horde of Travesties, the Nightmare Child, the Could've Been King with his Army of Meanwhiles and Neverweres if they shall screw that movie up
Well

they said they want to make Doctor Who movie. that's it. They have nothing.
This kind of "wants" are extremely common and we simply don't hear about them. There are probably fifty "wants" for another godfather movie or even reboot of Final Fantasy spirits within. No need to worry.

anyhow

I like Matt Smith. I loved series 5 and series 6 was very very good (a bit less tough. mid series was a bit lacking)
but like I pointed out in that other Doctor Who thread... I had not seen old series at all.
Breaking news: Ricky Gervais is being considered for the part of the Doctor.
I don't know if this is relevant, but what has happened to Doctor Who seems like a microcosm of what has happened to UK drama generally. Its all bloody emotion, shakicam jumping around like captain spazz, six orchestras and choirs in the background belting out O Fortuna. Look at me! Look at me! Its like telly has turned into a child desperate for attention.

I contrast that with some of the old drama we used to have; I Claudius, with some of the best actors around making for riveting telly with a miniscule amount of music or special effects. Some of the ghost stories for Christmas, where I enjoyed watching Michael Hordern eating breakfast for about 45 mins with the odd chill in between and yes, it actually works. Even Robin of Sherwood, where instead of that tedious bell end Keith Allen you had the wonderful camp and menacing Nickolas Grace, and an amazing Celtic vibe provided by both the script and the subtle, haunting Clannad sountrack.

The only thing we can do right - ie. with proper acting - is costume drama which, whilst enjoyable (I find Downton Abbey very watchable), gets a bit stale.

What goes for video games seems (IMHO) to go for TV as well. A gradual descent to the lowest bloody common denominator for the fickle and the hard of thinking.