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carnival73: Those in strange and uncanny circumstances are usually and erroneously demonized by naive world views. It's why those world views are usually the first to go.
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Vestin: Oh, I don't think it's a matter of practicality. I think the impact a traumatic experience has on the mind strips the vague cultural bs right off. It simply becomes irrelevant and is seen as, precisely, "naive", not "hostile" or merely "false".
Then again - I think the above is more applicable to situations where the suffering is internal. If a person IS treated like crap by outsiders and THAT shatters his finely-crafted ordinary mind, I guess it would only be logical to be disillusioned on a level more sociological and anthropological than philosophical/metaphysical/epistemological/etc.
There's more time to explore your inner self when you pull away and recluse. It's only natural for folks to avoid what harms them however.....I mean I know better than to run naked into the center of a bonfire.

You will find most of what ate everyone before resigning was never being able to get over being ashamed of themselves for foolish running through their early days in life blinded by complete and utter faith and never once stopping to ask questions and second guess their environment and its inhabitants.

It's like your first day entering a penitentiary suspecting all of the other senior and return convicts to be your 'Support Group.'
Post edited November 17, 2012 by carnival73
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carnival73: Sounds a bit arrogant and pretentious - Usually associated with the college age group 18 to 23 right before cognitive dissonance strikes and they spend the rest of their lives in Religion and Philosophy boards.
Nope, the average 4channer would make fun of someone on a philosophy board, and generally aren't religious. If anything, they're far more science and technology oriented, if you tell them you're doing a college course in art or something, they'll laugh at you. If you want pretentious kids pretending to know it all, you should go to Reddit - a place that is absolutely hated on 4chan for all the reasons you seem to be agreeing with.

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You talk about being pretentious and people ending up on philosophy boards, sounding like perma-teenagers, and then you write that post above this one? Holy fucking hypocrisy, Batman. And they do say you hate in others what you hate in yourself... I mean no offence, but it's like you're actually intentionally spoofing what you incorrectly assumed about 4chan. In fact, please tell me you were.
Post edited November 18, 2012 by Export
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carnival73: There's more time to explore your inner self when you pull away and recluse.
Of course. "Solitude is the mother of wisdom", they say...

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carnival73: It's only natural for folks to avoid what harms them however.....I mean I know better than to run naked into the center of a bonfire.
It's sentences like these that usually elicit a nod out of even the most argumentative of people... but then again, the first thing that came to my mind was a quote from an article, roughly a decade old; I can't conjure it word-for-word but it first said that given a choice between life, happiness, creativity on one hand and death, suffering, destruction on the other, we would swear that nobody could even consider the latter... but, as we nowadays know all too well, there are those willing to prove us wrong.

Also - on a broader scale - aside from people touched by the anxiety spectrum of mental disorders, don't we all actively seek out that which can or will cause us harm ? People go parachuting, jump on bungee ropes, they fall in love even though it makes them incredibly vulnerable, they buy things and think they own them... but, really, they become all the more miserable when they (or because they CAN) get stolen, broken, outdated, fall out of fashion...
That's not even mentioning people who willingly cause their own bodies harm through physical or chemical means...

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carnival73: You will find most of what ate everyone before resigning was never being able to get over being ashamed of themselves for foolish running through their early days in life blinded by complete and utter faith and never once stopping to ask questions and second guess their environment and its inhabitants.
I guess school curriculums everywhere could use some more philosophy, huh ;) ? Literally every other subject instills a sense of intellectual security, comfiness... complacency even. People grow up feeling like they live in a world which makes sense, is governed by some eternal rules which all smart people know by heart and where things are either one google search away or are completely subjective matters...

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Export: the average 4channer would make fun of someone on a philosophy board, and generally aren't religious. If anything, they're far more science and technology oriented (...)
Huh. That sounds really arrogant and pretentious. I sincerely hope this is something people grow out of...
Post edited November 18, 2012 by Vestin
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You talk about being pretentious and people ending up on philosophy boards, sounding like perma-teenagers, and then you write that post above this one? Holy fucking hypocrisy, Batman. And they do say you hate in others what you hate in yourself... I mean no offence, but it's like you're actually intentionally spoofing what you incorrectly assumed about 4chan. In fact, please tell me you were.
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How do you think I wound up in philosophy boards? =)
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Vestin: People wind up feeling like they live in a world which does not make sense intentionally, is governed by some eternal rules which all people knew once by heart and where most things are either one google search away or are completely subjective matters...
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With some slight editing above you pretty much describe me. XD
Post edited November 18, 2012 by carnival73