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Posted June 26, 2014
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Tarnicus: Yeah I grabbed that for my girlfriend as she also loves the movies. I don't seem to appreciate them as I did when I was younger :) I said to her "we already have that one on DVD" (referring to the above game) and fortunately she set me straight and told me that no Dark Athena was the sequel to the game we have.

I'm starting to really enjoy being proven wrong as it reminds me that I am a human being after all :)
LOL, my wife is good at keeping me human too :)

For me it seems to be opposite. The older I get the more I enjoy the sci-fi/fantasy genre more in movies. Now at 42 I own more of that genre than I did at any point in the past.
Posted June 26, 2014
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vulchor: GOG is what got me embracing digital downloads as well! I was a naysayer before, but I really love what this service has done for the industry, and for my gaming life in general. The only time I purchase a physical copy anymore is if it doesn't force Steam AND has a really cool collector's edition to go with it.
What was the first game you purchased here?

The first game I got was The Witcher being gifted to me at full price(as I mentioned to you via PM last night) and the first game I bought for myself was Might & Magic 1-6. It was so refreshing to find a site dedicated to getting old games working on modern gaming systems, and I can't wait to see what GOG Galaxy is like and am so curious to see which titles will finally get Linux support. I've always preferred control over things that I own(such as my computer) and it's great to see the industry heading back in that direction!
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Cyberevil: Yea I hate having Skyrim on there though. Mine is VERY modded and sure it makes it a tad unstable, but I know that the "steam updates" CTD me just as often as my own obsession with mods.
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vulchor: A word of advice regarding Skyrim mods, coming from someone with almost 20 years modding experience and has modded TES games since Morrowind first released, stay away from the Steamworks mods. Not because I hate Steam, but because it doesn't do any of the things necessary to give a crashless modding experience, like load-order. It also auto-updates your mods, which can can cause catastrophe if you have multiple mods installed. Stick to using the Nexus Mod Manager and mods from Skyrim Nexus (the Nexus was the original mod resource for TES since Morrowind). Mods are usually released there first, and you'll hardly ever find the really good high quality mods on Steamworks.
Will those mods work on Steam?
Post edited June 26, 2014 by Tarnicus
Posted June 26, 2014
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trentonlf: I'm looking forward to trying out the Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena, really love the movies ;)
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Tarnicus: Yeah I grabbed that for my girlfriend as she also loves the movies. I don't seem to appreciate them as I did when I was younger :) I said to her "we already have that one on DVD" (referring to the above game) and fortunately she set me straight and told me that no Dark Athena was the sequel to the game we have.

I'm starting to really enjoy being proven wrong as it reminds me that I am a human being after all :)
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Tarnicus: I'm slowly learning not to be as combative as I once was but it is a very slow process lol. Hopefully some day I will learn to shrug off rudeness and perceived injustice but at this stage in life I still bite far too often.
My problem is I'm very defensive.

It comes from being bullied A LOT as a kid - being Scottish and living on a council estate in Yorkshire did not make me popular, coupled with being the eldest of seven kids so there were no fashionable clothes, latest gadgets, etc. making me the odd kid out. Over the years I've learned to embrace my 'oddness' - hence the pink and blue hair and heavy, dramatic makeup. Being a singer gives me a great excuse for my outlandish appearance! :-)
Posted June 26, 2014
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BlackThorny: Just pirate them altogether in the first place. The only two reasons Not to do so is Publisher and Multiplayer support.
3rd reason is it is very illegal to do so. I admit, I have a sordid past, but that was when I young and broke and didn't appreciate the effort that goes into making a game. Now I have too many games to play in a lifetime, so I just take the Don't Buy, Don't Play route and the publishers don't get my money. But at least I don't have to worry about the feds, or being booted by my ISP and have to get DSL instead (yuck!)

I'm actually a network engineer, so I'm certainly capable of pirating safely, but I choose not to anymore so as to take a moral high-ground, but most people (in the US, anyway) can relate to my first paragraph.
Posted June 26, 2014
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trentonlf: LOL, my wife is good at keeping me human too :)

For me it seems to be opposite. The older I get the more I enjoy the sci-fi/fantasy genre more in movies. Now at 42 I own more of that genre than I did at any point in the past.
I love both genres and am unsure of what it was about the Riddick trilogy that didn't grab me on my last viewing. Probably my mood at the time knowing me. I've definitely moved away from my enjoyment of sci-fi though, and I think that has to do with the philosophy that has formed from my almost 38 years(birthday next month!) on this planet. I don't see our focus on technology at the expense of other lifeforms and a peaceful co-existence with the rest of nature as being productive in the long term. I know I'd prefer to go back to living in the trees if I could. I've trained enough survival knowledge to live in almost any environment if I have to so I won't be totally unprepared if that eventuates in my lifetime.

I'm amazed by how many humans die in survival situations when water and food are abundant if one knows how to source them.
Posted June 26, 2014
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zeroxxx: Steam can set each games so it won't auto update or let you bypass it completely.

Except for online games like Dota 2.

Get the fact right first before posting.
In theory. In practice, Steam has ignored my no auto-update settings more than half a dozen times after updating the client. Get your head out of your ass and read others posts first before condemning someone.
Post edited June 26, 2014 by vulchor
Posted June 26, 2014
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Cyberevil: Yea I hate having Skyrim on there though. Mine is VERY modded and sure it makes it a tad unstable, but I know that the "steam updates" CTD me just as often as my own obsession with mods.
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vulchor: A word of advice regarding Skyrim mods, coming from someone with almost 20 years modding experience and has modded TES games since Morrowind first released, stay away from the Steamworks mods. Not because I hate Steam, but because it doesn't do any of the things necessary to give a crashless modding experience, like load-order. It also auto-updates your mods, which can can cause catastrophe if you have multiple mods installed. Stick to using the Nexus Mod Manager and mods from Skyrim Nexus (the Nexus was the original mod resource for TES since Morrowind). Mods are usually released there first, and you'll hardly ever find the really good high quality mods on Steamworks.
thankfully, I already do this. AND run Boss and still sometimes have to figure out what hates what on my own. Plus Nexus has the adult mods that you won't find on Steam either... Although even they draw a line that one other site (name eludes me now, I'm a little sleepy) crosses.
I haven't added even one mod off steam, even when it's not available on Nexus (my one complaint with them is they seem VERY temperamental, and ban great modders and mods WAY too often.
Posted June 26, 2014
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Tarnicus: lol you do know that there are professional animal wankers? The things one learns when one has a girlfriend who studied a precursor to veterinary science. Was tempted to take this thread right into the gutter but I shall refrain...for now :P
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txnca: I know there are! lol I used to work as a pig breeder and we used tubes of pig sperm to inseminate the sows. I once asked the boss where it came from and he told me about the guys that do that work. It takes all kinds!
LOL yup I do know that's why I made the joke - and you two don't know how unnaturally ecstatic I am that it landed squarely on two people who knew exactly what I was talking about!

So, how's the sale tracking going? I ducked out to once again *gasp* play a bit of a game before I called it a night... though I'm terrified by the prospect that I will once again sleep with a timer to wake me up every two hours dare I miss - makes for a terrible next day! ;)
Posted June 26, 2014
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LynetteC: My problem is I'm very defensive.

It comes from being bullied A LOT as a kid - being Scottish and living on a council estate in Yorkshire did not make me popular, coupled with being the eldest of seven kids so there were no fashionable clothes, latest gadgets, etc. making me the odd kid out. Over the years I've learned to embrace my 'oddness' - hence the pink and blue hair and heavy, dramatic makeup. Being a singer gives me a great excuse for my outlandish appearance! :-)
I suffer from that as well. I am slowly learning not to be so defensive. Being a short skinny kid who started school a year younger than everyone else had me learn to use my tongue to defend myself, and when that generally lead to a physical confrontation, I was fortunate to have the strongest kid in school as my best friend. I made him laugh, he protected me :) Things changed in high school when I became a tall skinny kid and quite a target for bullies. If only I'd trained mixed martial arts back in those days...nah I'm glad I didn't as I learned empathy and compassion and later in life learned to defend myself physically :)

Scottish! Awesome <3 My lineage on my mother's site was traced back to Gillemichael MacDuff, the third Earl of Fife. When I told my ex-girlfriend that(who's father is Scottish) she laughed and told me that Fife is a shithole these days lol. I'd love to visit Scotland and Ireland some day :)
Posted June 26, 2014
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Tarnicus: To others commenting on Steam as being DRM, it only uses DRM if the developer or publisher include it by using their:

"CEG (Custom Executable Generation) is Valve's alternative to the pitfalls of DRM and part of Steamworks, the company's free suite of publishing and development tools. What this technology does is register each copy of a game unique to one user, who can then use the title between compatible PCs without any kind of limits or root kits."

There are many Steam games who installation folders can simply be copied to other computers and don't even require the client once downloaded. Fortunately for those who care, GOG offers this with EVERY game :)

A lot has changed with Steam over the years and it is a hell of a lot better than it once was. I consider it a place to rent games mostly, not own them as I do with games from here and other DRM free sites.

Oh fuck it I got lured in to beating off that dead horse and feel dirty already :P
Sorry for bringing you back into this, man. You are technically correct right, however every list I've seen has been quite incomplete. Although that is the technical case, effectively it still remains DRM in every instance that I've been forced to use it for. But yeah, Steam itself is just the platform for the more notorious Steamworks DRM.
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vulchor: A word of advice regarding Skyrim mods, coming from someone with almost 20 years modding experience and has modded TES games since Morrowind first released, stay away from the Steamworks mods. Not because I hate Steam, but because it doesn't do any of the things necessary to give a crashless modding experience, like load-order. It also auto-updates your mods, which can can cause catastrophe if you have multiple mods installed. Stick to using the Nexus Mod Manager and mods from Skyrim Nexus (the Nexus was the original mod resource for TES since Morrowind). Mods are usually released there first, and you'll hardly ever find the really good high quality mods on Steamworks.
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Cyberevil: thankfully, I already do this. AND run Boss and still sometimes have to figure out what hates what on my own. Plus Nexus has the adult mods that you won't find on Steam either... Although even they draw a line that one other site (name eludes me now, I'm a little sleepy) crosses.
I haven't added even one mod off steam, even when it's not available on Nexus (my one complaint with them is they seem VERY temperamental, and ban great modders and mods WAY too often.
Good to hear!! Nexus didn't use to draw ANY line for mods, just as long as it was marked adult. Then came child rape mods. That didn't last long.
Post edited June 26, 2014 by vulchor
Posted June 26, 2014
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vulchor: 3rd reason is it is very illegal to do so. I admit, I have a sordid past, but that was when I young and broke and didn't appreciate the effort that goes into making a game. Now I have too many games to play in a lifetime, so I just take the Don't Buy, Don't Play route and the publishers don't get my money. But at least I don't have to worry about the feds, or being booted by my ISP and have to get DSL instead (yuck!)

I'm actually a network engineer, so I'm certainly capable of pirating safely, but I choose not to anymore so as to take a moral high-ground, but most people (in the US, anyway) can relate to my first paragraph.
We've got some similarities there! I was just about to link you something I wrote to skeletonbow last night on this topic via PM, but it appears to have vanished :( Looks like PMs are on the blink again.

Short version - with the state the gaming industry was in, I pirated everything and thought 'fuck you!' was my right of reply for direction it was heading. Since then I have purchased almost everything I used to own or pirated on digital distribution sites such as GOG. I like to support creative people with their hard work and avoid those publishers and developers I dislike. Fortunately gaming changed from a "nerd" industry into a mainstream activity.
Posted June 26, 2014
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vulchor: GOG is what got me embracing digital downloads as well! I was a naysayer before, but I really love what this service has done for the industry, and for my gaming life in general. The only time I purchase a physical copy anymore is if it doesn't force Steam AND has a really cool collector's edition to go with it.
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Tarnicus: What was the first game you purchased here?

The first game I got was The Witcher being gifted to me at full price(as I mentioned to you via PM last night) and the first game I bought for myself was Might & Magic 1-6. It was so refreshing to find a site dedicated to getting old games working on modern gaming systems, and I can't wait to see what GOG Galaxy is like and am so curious to see which titles will finally get Linux support. I've always preferred control over things that I own(such as my computer) and it's great to see the industry heading back in that direction!
EDIT: Oooh, I didn't see this awesome part of your question. M&M1-6 was about the 8th thing I purchased here. I think the very first purchase was the Fallout Collection, then followed by the DND collection.

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vulchor: A word of advice regarding Skyrim mods, coming from someone with almost 20 years modding experience and has modded TES games since Morrowind first released, stay away from the Steamworks mods. Not because I hate Steam, but because it doesn't do any of the things necessary to give a crashless modding experience, like load-order. It also auto-updates your mods, which can can cause catastrophe if you have multiple mods installed. Stick to using the Nexus Mod Manager and mods from Skyrim Nexus (the Nexus was the original mod resource for TES since Morrowind). Mods are usually released there first, and you'll hardly ever find the really good high quality mods on Steamworks.
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Tarnicus: Will those mods work on Steam?
Absolutely! Since the Steam version is the only version of Skyrim. But yeah, they work with Steam versions of Oblivion and Morrowind as well as the newer Fallout games. Just disable the auto-update feature, which should be a problem anyway since I doubt we'll see more updates for those games.
Post edited June 26, 2014 by vulchor
Posted June 26, 2014
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vulchor: In theory. In practice, Steam has ignored my no auto-update settings more than half a dozen times after updating the client. Get your head out of your ass and read others posts first before condemning someone.
I'll have to test it out again as I had set a few games not to auto-update before the latest client upgrade and finally they stopped updating! It would be a shame to know that after so many years of people begging Valve to fix the issue that it has been reverted so soon.
Posted June 26, 2014
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vulchor: In theory. In practice, Steam has ignored my no auto-update settings more than half a dozen times after updating the client. Get your head out of your ass and read others posts first before condemning someone.
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Tarnicus: I'll have to test it out again as I had set a few games not to auto-update before the latest client upgrade and finally they stopped updating! It would be a shame to know that after so many years of people begging Valve to fix the issue that it has been reverted so soon.
Ugh, it wouldn't surprise me.
Posted June 26, 2014
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Ixamyakxim: LOL yup I do know that's why I made the joke - and you two don't know how unnaturally ecstatic I am that it landed squarely on two people who knew exactly what I was talking about!

So, how's the sale tracking going? I ducked out to once again *gasp* play a bit of a game before I called it a night... though I'm terrified by the prospect that I will once again sleep with a timer to wake me up every two hours dare I miss - makes for a terrible next day! ;)
Eek sale tracking, thanks for the reminder! That is why I went to check this thread again so I could see what was on offer. I didn't think I'd have anything to spend on this sale but managed to get a little money to throw on it :)
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