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j0ekerr: The gist of it is: Valve is nice, they're not evil, I like them and their drm is mild enough that I don't even notice it.

Origin causes rectal prolapse.
Also I don't like kindles that are not for burning.
so true
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Dawnreader: Yep, those were easy ones. There are Daemon Tools And Alchocol 120% for "die hard" cases
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IAmSinistar: Oh god, I remember those too. They were great, but damned tricky at times. GOG has really spoiled me for "install and enjoy" convenience now. :)
so has bittorrent steamrips. much of what i own on steam i play using steamrips... sad but true. Plus one has to have insurance :)
Post edited June 25, 2014 by bernstein82
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txnca: So this is the last one for free? was there another over night that I missed?
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Tarnicus: Still Life 2
Omerta
Torchlight
Alan Wake's American Nightmare

were the freebies :)
This is the first sale that I've gotten more freebies than purchases from but the ratio of new games to giveaways dropped significantly to 2:2
Hey Tarnicus, good to see you back. :-)

If there's anything that particularly takes your fancy, please let me know - I'd like the opportunity to repay your Grimrock generosity!

How's the hand, by the way?
Newbie, coming through. I have a few questions I'm hoping someone might answer. First off, does anyone know how much longer the sale lasts? And second, do games ever appear in flash sales twice?

I'm asking this because I missed the sale on Blaz Blue this weekend because my card was empty and the banks were closed (I only found out about the sale recently) So i was wondering if i should wait, hoping that BlazBlue will be a flash sale again, or buy it now in case the sale ends. Can anyone help me out?

Thanks in advance
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ccotunai: Newbie, coming through. I have a few questions I'm hoping someone might answer. First off, does anyone know how much longer the sale lasts? And second, do games ever appear in flash sales twice?

I'm asking this because I missed the sale on Blaz Blue this weekend because my card was empty and the banks were closed (I only found out about the sale recently) So i was wondering if i should wait, hoping that BlazBlue will be a flash sale again, or buy it now in case the sale ends. Can anyone help me out?

Thanks in advance
Deals will run out on the 30th and yes, games repeat! So keep an eye out.
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ccotunai: Newbie, coming through. I have a few questions I'm hoping someone might answer. First off, does anyone know how much longer the sale lasts? And second, do games ever appear in flash sales twice?

I'm asking this because I missed the sale on Blaz Blue this weekend because my card was empty and the banks were closed (I only found out about the sale recently) So i was wondering if i should wait, hoping that BlazBlue will be a flash sale again, or buy it now in case the sale ends. Can anyone help me out?

Thanks in advance
1: Sale ends on the 30th.
2: Yes games in flash repeat. I'm not sure if your desired game is in line for another sale though.


http://www.gog.com/forum/general/2014_drmfree_summer_sale_tracker/post1
Post edited June 25, 2014 by DiscipleJF
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madeaj: GOG likes to keep us on our toes! I have already bought more then I intended. Sorry you missed it.
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CalicoPup: Oh, I'll survive. I got 4 other freebies so I can't complain. And I got a lot more than I'd originally planned anyway. I have enough to keep me busy for... well, until the Fall Insomnia sale. As long as it happens after Mid-November.
My backlog will also keep me busy through to the Fall Insomnia Sale... in 2025!

I've hauled in 3 bundles (Spellforce, Ultima and Age of Empires) and 21 other games (including the Blackwell Bundle which is 4 in 1) in this sale alone!

I think I'm becoming a digital game hoarder. (And a Gift Code hoarder as well!)
Lynette have you played Spellforce before? I admit I'd never heard of the games but they looked interesting. I couldn't tell if the game was more RTS with RPG mixed in (something like Dragonshard) or more of an RPG with RTS like controls (think Dungeon Siege - well before the most recent one). Anyway, impressions if you have them would be great - they're not high on my priority list now as I have *ahem* a few games to play now but I'm just curious for the future.
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IAmSinistar: SecuROM (specifically the one in BioShock) is what turned me off PC gaming all those years ago. It wasn't until I found GOG that I came back.

Amazing isn't it that companies still think DRM is a good idea, despite that it can actually cause customers to give up the entire hobby?
Indeed. I more or less did that very thing around 2006 after buying a shit tonne of Ubisoft games (the entire Tom Clancy series, plus many others) and being told by their online activator for multi-player that my legitimate CD key was "invalid" repeatedly. After reinstalling several times and getting the same errors regardless of how "careful" the license key was typed in letter for letter perfect, the game refused to accept the key as valid. Searching the Internet I discovered thousands of gamers experiencing the same problem, and my other buddies that bought the games on my recommendation so we could all play multi-player also all had the problem - every single one of them. Zero of us were ever able to play multi-player legitimately online and Ubisoft technical support basically told each of us to reinstall the game and be careful about typing the key in exact (which we'd already done a zillion times).

In reality, what had really happened is that hackers reverse engineer the DRM in games including the license key generation mechanisms and they write key generator programs to generate bogus license keys to game the system, then people pirate the games and use the bogus keys to be able to play multi-player also. The key-generators generate keys that Ubisoft or Gamespy or whatever considers legitimate but which could potentially conflict with a customer's legally purchased key, and when several people pirating a game end up all using the exact same fraudulently generated key - Ubisoft/Gamespy bans that license key and considers it invalid.

The problem with doing that, is that YOUR license key that you PAID MONEY for, is highly likely to be BANNED from their servers before you ever even pick the game box up off the shelf in the store and open your wallet to pay for it. After the fact Ubisoft considers you to be a pirate, or that you have given your key to other people or not kept them secure and someone else has stolen your key. The fact that you just opened the box and installed the game for the first time out of shrink wrap and it's not possible another human being even knows you even bought the game let alone seeing your license key or stealing it from you doesn't matter to them.

They just simply don't care. They only care that they THINK they are preventing piracy.

Myself and every friend of mine that bought all of those games ended up having to go to Game Copy World (Google it) and download game cracks to crack our own legally purchased games to play them properly in many cases, and we also had to install and set up Hamachi VPNs to be able to play multiplayer via LAN mode over the VPN and bypass the Gamespy servers while adding latency to our games. Some of the guys just got angry and refused to play at all.

What they did to me though on $500+ worth of games is turned me from being a huge Ubisoft fan who bought hundreds of dollars worth of their games and encouraged just about everyone I knew to do so as well - into someone who refuses to buy any of their games now ever, actively boycotts them and have personally convinced the majority of my friends to do the same. But we didn't just boycott Ubisoft, we had similar experiences with EA too and stopped buying their games as well. Just about everyone I know stopped buying games at all for some time and only bought very selectively after that, very carefully checking what DRM was used on the games, checking forums to see people having DRM-related problems etc and in most cases not buying games. Those people who were not opposed to pirating games if they wanted to play one of these games bad enough would sometimes go and pirate the game that they actually wanted to buy simply to not have to deal with all of the copy protection/DRM headaches as we did in the past.

My own personal choice was to just not buy or play any new games at all period. It wasn't hard to do that as my computer sucked and couldn't really run new games anyway, so I stuck with playing 2006-7 era games and older from then until roughly Oct 2012. That was when I had been watching GOG closely for some time and finally decided to buy some DRM-free games here and since then I've went apeshit. Now I own 303 games on GOG, and that even sparked me to embrace other digital distributed games mostly from bundles and deep discount sales even if many of them do include DRM. So far the only "asshole" game DRM I've encountered has been GTA4, and Mortal Kombat Kollection and Section 8. The difference this time around though is that I spent about $2-3 of my money for those inconveniences this time around instead of $500 so I can shrug it off easier now and be more careful in the future. :)

So that's a bit of my gaming story anyway. GOG is ultimately totally and completely responsible for me starting to give a crap about buying games again, and it is 100% because of DRM-free hassle-free bullshit-free. They make it super easy to game and to not have to be treated like a f***ing criminal for being an honest person that just wants a good deal at a fair price and no hassles. GOG is personally responsible for being the catalyst for me to buy well over 500 games (both on GOG, Steam and other stores) and without GOG I probably would have never bought a game again ever. I would have definitely PLAYED games, but none of my own money would have been spent on them. How that would have happened is left to the imagination of the reader.

Digital distribution with high quality customer service is the way to win customers and get people to pay for things and be happy about handing their money over. DRM is not the answer. Ubisoft, EA, Rockstar - if you're listening... screw you. I mean that in the nicest way. :)

Incidentally, while I boycott those three companies completely now and some others as well from bad experiences, I make exceptions for any games they might have provided DRM-free on GOG as I want them to see that DRM-free is the way to go, so I will buy their stuff here if it shows up here.
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j0ekerr: Let me guess... FreeBSD user?
No. I'm a Microsoft Windows user. (Maybe I'm a little slow today but - what was implied in the question?)

Let me clarify that my position is "DRM is a risk". I wasn't trying to make a moral judgement (that is why I specifically said it doesn't make you "bad"). Sometimes it does make sense to "take the DRM risk" or to "rent" software (e.g., speaking for myself, when I evaluated my options for getting Microsoft Office, an Office 365 subscription is what made more sense for my needs, and yes, there is a risk involved).

All I'm recommending is risk evaluation and risk management. And I'm very glad for GOG providing the choice to eliminate that risk. That should be easy to agree on: Consumer choice is good (when you're a consumer :)
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IAmSinistar: SecuROM (specifically the one in BioShock) is what turned me off PC gaming all those years ago. It wasn't until I found GOG that I came back.

Amazing isn't it that companies still think DRM is a good idea, despite that it can actually cause customers to give up the entire hobby?
Intersting. Bioshock's DRM was what sparked my hatred of DRM schemes as well. While I didn't go the extreme you have of refusing to buy games unless they're totally DRM-free, I certainly admire your adherence to your principles.

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skeletonbow: ...snip...
Similar story here, only the game was Bioshock as noted above (I only play single player). What the DRM hassles I had with that game ended up doing was basically vastly reduce the revenue the gaming industry would have made from me. Where before I would pick up a game at full price on a whim, now I research every game before purchasing to see what asinine DRM scheme the publishers have decided to put on it. And while I'm not opposed to buying games tied to clients (Steam/Origin) or with some milder forms of DRM, their value to me is vastly reduced. So I buy them only at a deep, deep discount (much like yourself, I surmise).

DRM-free games, on the other hand, I'll pay much more for. Which reminds me, I need to get my Witcher 3 pre-order done...
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Coelocanth: Intersting. Bioshock's DRM was what sparked my hatred of DRM schemes as well. While I didn't go the extreme you have of refusing to buy games unless they're totally DRM-free, I certainly admire your adherence to your principles.

Similar story here, only the game was Bioshock as noted above (I only play single player). What the DRM hassles I had with that game ended up doing was basically vastly reduce the revenue the gaming industry would have made from me. Where before I would pick up a game at full price on a whim, now I research every game before purchasing to see what asinine DRM scheme the publishers have decided to put on it. And while I'm not opposed to buying games tied to clients (Steam/Origin) or with some milder forms of DRM, their value to me is vastly reduced. So I buy them only at a deep, deep discount (much like yourself, I surmise).

DRM-free games, on the other hand, I'll pay much more for. Which reminds me, I need to get my Witcher 3 pre-order done...
Yep, with so many gaming options out there and prices so dirt cheap, it's easy to find DRM-free games or games with very light DRM that you almost don't know is even there for peanuts. The only way I'll crack the $5 barrier for any game is if it is one I want very bad *AND* it is DRM-free though. DRM on a game automatically caps the price at $5 tops for me and usually it's a max of $2-3. The Witcher 3 will be getting at least $47+ from me though. DRM-free chocolatey goodness. :)
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skeletonbow:
If I had kids, this would be their bedtime story.
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skeletonbow: The problem with doing that, is that YOUR license key that you PAID MONEY for, is highly likely to be BANNED from their servers before you ever even pick the game box up off the shelf in the store and open your wallet to pay for it. After the fact Ubisoft considers you to be a pirate, or that you have given your key to other people or not kept them secure and someone else has stolen your key. The fact that you just opened the box and installed the game for the first time out of shrink wrap and it's not possible another human being even knows you even bought the game let alone seeing your license key or stealing it from you doesn't matter to them.
Yeah that sucks big time. Especially that Ubisoft didn't issue you a new key. Well got the same result with Blizzard.
Happened to me with StarCraft, albeit a few years down the road. One day i just couldn't login to battle.net because they revoked my key because other people (presumably with keygens) used the same key...
Thank you for the replies! I guess i can wait a little longer, just in case
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Erufian: If the steemed competition is who I think it is (a certain place with DRM where you have to be logged on to start a game) that doesn't make you "bad" but it makes you a risk taker. If you lose your account for whatever reason (a couple of examples: your account is hacked and the DRM company decides to close it, or the DRM company takes a risky bet on a new OS platform and they go out of business) then all that you have purchased is gone, poof, not even a white cloud of water vapor remains... Take a look at your account there and think how would you feel if all of a sudden everything is gone tomorrow and you get nothing in exchange.

Do make sure you enjoy quickly anything that is DRM'd because you don't know how long it'll last. For "I'm not sure when I'll have time to play" and "collecting" you want something that is DRM-free.

Picking an example of something that is available here and was recently heavily discounted at a competitor - Syberia 1+2 for 1.49 may have looked good but, considering the DRM, I'd say GOG offers a better "deal" even if it costs more $$$
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synfresh: I don't get the 'enjoy it quickly or it's gone argument' because again it assumes something that may or may not happen. It's no more an absolute that you will lose your access to Steam games then it is that you won't. Games that I own on Steam that I bought circa 2005 still exist in my library. I certainly didn't make sure I 'enjoyed them quickly' or was worried in any way that whey were going away (which they have not).
I bought Magic the Gathering Tactics from steam and I received this message, and my $100 on that goes poof

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Today we announced with our partner, Wizards of the Coast, that we will discontinue game services for Magic: The Gathering – Tactics on M‌arch 28, 2014. We are honored to have been a part of bringing you the magic of the Multiverse over the last few years. It has been a fun and memorable journey, and we thank you for all of your dedication and support.
Magic: The Gathering – Tactics cards that players have in their existing deck inventory prior to N‌ovember 18, 2013 will continue to be accessible through M‌arch 28, 2014. No new packs will be available for purchase as of N‌ovember 18, 2013. For more details, information and FAQ, please visit magicthegatheringtactics.com.
We appreciate your understanding in this matter and your ongoing support.
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I bought Unreal Tournament 3 Black Edition that requires me to sign up for another account because it only allow me to save my games ONLINE. Some time later I forgot the password and cannot save my game at all and the game spy does not support the save server anymore thus I cannot reset my password. (I goes through many tries before I guess the correct password later)

If I ever want to beat the system and "Unofficially" save the game offline I have to follow some complicated steps
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-mac-discussion-1000004/unreal-tournament-iii-how-do-you-save-26052639/

Other games I realize is dark spore
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/125526-Darkspore-Gone-Forever-Due-to-Abandoned-DRM-UPDATED

Other community may feed you about other proof of games gone from steam due to online DRM
Post edited June 25, 2014 by Gnostic