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Posted June 28, 2014
With 700+ games discounted up to 90% off, daily special Bundle Deals, a constant stream of exciting Flash Sales, and some fantastic surprise giveaways, we launch into the season of gaming joy!

The biggest celebration of DRM-Free gaming this season is right now, right here on GOG.com! It's warm and nice outside, the summer draws ever closer, so let's make sure it's full of fantastic games. There's no one good way to spend your summer, but we know well that gaming can make every single one of them better. So, whether you plan to stay inside, hike into the wilderness, or take a boat into the calm sea, we'll make sure your laptop is filled with great DRM-Free games you can enjoy anytime, anywhere. To that end, we're holding our [url=http://www.gog.com]2014 DRM-Free Summer Sale!

Each day we'll present you with at least two special Bundle Deals with a selection of of great classics and indies available up to 90% off! As usual, you'll be able to buy just selected titles out of the bundle with a slightly lower discount, or complete your collection with just the ones you're missing, retaining the higher discount rate. Let's take a look at our offers for today, shall we?

Today, we seriously mix things up to bring you both lighthearted comedy as well as dark and morbid horror. The Legacy of Kain Saga is the Full House of gaming with its family themes and colorful presentation. Across four episodes ironically titled Soul Reaver, Soul Reaver 2, Blood Omen 2, and Defiance the series explores the relation between Kain, a authoritative father with obvious god complex, and Raziel, his rebellious son with questionable fashion sense. The story also includes many of their relatives from extended family, that cannot help but to make a mess in their imaginary homeland called Nosgoth. Hilarity ensues! All this cheerful moments for only $5.96 (that's 75% off!). The other of our offers today, is bound to chill the blood in your veins with its terrifying setting alone. The Deponia Complete Trilogy takes place on a distant planet. A planet, that long ago must have been not so different from our own Earth. Yet now, it is a grim and dark place that suffered a tragic environmental disaster. The surface of the planet is now completely covered with waste. Toxic rain flushes the pollution deep into the ground, poisoning it and making the land barren. Way above, there's the remaining enclave of civilization, housing the remnant of the human race. Now imagine one of them, a defenseless girl, falls down to the toxic junkyard below. Even though she doesn't die instantly poisoned with every imaginable toxin, her future looks grim. The wasteland is filled with danger, and soon she'll find out that she is not alone among the towering piles of garbage. What strange mutated monsters could have survived in such conditions? And what do they eat? The horror! All the thrills for just $11.97 (that's 80% off!). There you have it, a mix of laughter and cries of despair to fill your weekend with gripping gaming. Or did we overdo the mixing?

On top of that, almost all of our catalog has been discounted by up to 50%. On top of that, our front page is overflowing with excellent Flash Sales on single games. You can grab them up to 90% as well, but don't take to long, as they come and go pretty fast! Why don't you head out to GOG.com front page, and see what's happening right NOW!
Posted June 28, 2014
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JustSayin: It's better for companies like GOG to not be associated with them. I doubt GOG wants to be known as the place to get maybe legal games.
That for sure.
Posted June 28, 2014
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skeletonbow: I think something on the Internet that even *comes with* a ".nfo" file pretty much speaks for itself without bothering to download it or open the file. Seriously. :)
That's the first thing that came to mind the moment I read "Now that I've read the .nfo file." in the post of who's_name_shall_not_be_mentioned. ;-)


EDIT: removed name to lift any and all potential curses. ;-P
Post edited June 28, 2014 by HypersomniacLive
Posted June 28, 2014
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skeletonbow: I think something on the Internet that even *comes with* a ".nfo" file pretty much speaks for itself without bothering to download it or open the file. Seriously. :)
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HypersomniacLive: That's the first thing that came to mind the moment I read "Now that I've read the .nfo file." in Heimklonhm's post. ;-)
Please, use not my name for it is now and forever cursed! ;)
Posted June 28, 2014
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HypersomniacLive: That's the first thing that came to mind the moment I read "Now that I've read the .nfo file." in Heimklonhm's post. ;-)
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Heimklonhm: Please, use not my name for it is now and forever cursed! ;)
The FBI, cyber division unit got your I.P. already.... and it will be forwarded to your country's assigned department....
LOL
Posted June 28, 2014
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mortalkombat: The FBI, cyber division unit got your I.P. already.... and it will be forwarded to your country's assigned department.... LOL
Today is not a good day to die... :'(
Posted June 28, 2014
I always get a laugh when people express ideas that "abandonware" is legal software. Actual "legal" software is software which the legal owners of the copyrights and other intellectual property have given someone (or everyone) an officiall legally documented license which explicitly indicates each individual legal right they are granting to be able to copy, use, modify, distribute, etc. their software. By default if you do not have an explicit grant of license to a copyrighted work then you have no legal right to it whatsoever under copyright law because rights can only be granted explicitly, not implicitly.

The owner of a copyrighted work may or may not be aware someone is exploiting their work, or they are aware of it they may at that time decide not to sue or persue any legal course of action against any parties that are infringing upon their work - but they can at any time decide to file a lawsuit if they wish. Unlike trademarks which must be defended in order to be retained, copyrights do not expire or become legally abandoned by any implicit means into the public domain for people to do as they wish.

There are copyrighted works out there with which the legal owner may simply not care and may never care if people infringe upon their work, but that is not legal license to do it - it's still a violation of their copyright, even if they knowingly turn a blind eye or are otherwise unaware of the infringement. In other cases, the owner of a work may have passed from one person to another, or one company to another in acquisitions/mergers, etc. and they don't even know what they own or how it might be being infringed upon. 2 years later that might end up not being the case and they find out they own some game and go through the process to put it on Steam or something and along the way discover people have been pirating their game on abandonware sites for 5 years and go on a mass lawsuit rampage.

Never ceases to amaze me how little the average person knows about copyright law. I'm no IP attourney but I had to learn a fair bit about it myself at a former job to ensure that my own work was not infringing others copyrights, and others weren't infringing ours. It's all really very simple though: If you have not been given an explicit grant of license to do something with a copyrighted work in writing by the authentic owner of the copyrighted work, then you have no rights to that work, implicit or otherwise.

But, if anyone ever has any doubt about it, the only way to truly resolve it is to contact an intellectual property attourney.
Posted June 28, 2014
dont worry....
just play it ignorant....
buy 100 games and if they come show them the receipt that you get games legally....
also leave your wireless network unlocked...
so you will have the excuse that someone connected in your network and he downloaded illegal material...

DONT GET PARANOID
Posted June 28, 2014
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Heimklonhm: Please, use not my name for it is now and forever cursed! ;)
Better now? ;-)


Though you'd to remove it from your own post as well for the curse to be completely lifted. ;-P
Posted June 28, 2014
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Heimklonhm: Today is not a good day to die... :'(
That's not what I've been hearing! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEzfzis725k#t=32

;o)
Posted June 28, 2014
hahaha the light-hearted hijinks of Kain and Raziel juxtaposed with the grim survival horror of Deponia
Posted June 28, 2014
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skeletonbow: Never ceases to amaze me how little the average person knows about copyright law.
There is a large (and pretty much last) game magazine in Poland. They are dead set against piracy, and yet around times I mentioned before (2000 - 2001, where they actually was even larger) they openly write about abandonware, encourage their readers to try it and even give a links to most popular sites. Without it, I personaly wouldn't even know that such sites exist.
Post edited June 28, 2014 by Bambusek
Posted June 28, 2014
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skeletonbow: I always get a laugh when people express ideas that "abandonware" is legal software. Actual "legal" software is software which the legal owners of the copyrights and other intellectual property have given someone (or everyone) an officiall legally documented license which explicitly indicates each individual legal right they are granting to be able to copy, use, modify, distribute, etc. their software. By default if you do not have an explicit grant of license to a copyrighted work then you have no legal right to it whatsoever under copyright law because rights can only be granted explicitly, not implicitly.

The owner of a copyrighted work may or may not be aware someone is exploiting their work, or they are aware of it they may at that time decide not to sue or persue any legal course of action against any parties that are infringing upon their work - but they can at any time decide to file a lawsuit if they wish. Unlike trademarks which must be defended in order to be retained, copyrights do not expire or become legally abandoned by any implicit means into the public domain for people to do as they wish.

There are copyrighted works out there with which the legal owner may simply not care and may never care if people infringe upon their work, but that is not legal license to do it - it's still a violation of their copyright, even if they knowingly turn a blind eye or are otherwise unaware of the infringement. In other cases, the owner of a work may have passed from one person to another, or one company to another in acquisitions/mergers, etc. and they don't even know what they own or how it might be being infringed upon. 2 years later that might end up not being the case and they find out they own some game and go through the process to put it on Steam or something and along the way discover people have been pirating their game on abandonware sites for 5 years and go on a mass lawsuit rampage.

Never ceases to amaze me how little the average person knows about copyright law. I'm no IP attourney but I had to learn a fair bit about it myself at a former job to ensure that my own work was not infringing others copyrights, and others weren't infringing ours. It's all really very simple though: If you have not been given an explicit grant of license to do something with a copyrighted work in writing by the authentic owner of the copyrighted work, then you have no rights to that work, implicit or otherwise.

But, if anyone ever has any doubt about it, the only way to truly resolve it is to contact an intellectual property attourney.
by law, any material is protected, either patent-protected or copyright protected.....
this is both international law, but not strictly enforced (or enforced at all) in some countries (3rd world)

abandonware: no material, including abandonware is legal for usage or exploitation, unless stated in the "Copyright-Disclaimer"
or unless its free-ware
or unless its share-ware, not-protected for specific types of usage
or unless the sole 100% OWNER of this material gave up the rights to that material...aka removes the copyright, aka makes it freeware to the public -> you can do almost any use but doesnt allow for usage for gain/profit
Post edited June 28, 2014 by mortalkombat
Posted June 28, 2014
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skeletonbow: That's not what I've been hearing! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEzfzis725k#t=32

;o)
haha. I was referring to the saying of the Klingons when they enter battle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFxGPI1Uvlg
Post edited June 28, 2014 by Heimklonhm
Posted June 28, 2014
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Bambusek: There is a large (and pretty much last) game magazine in Poland. They are dead set against piracy, and yet around times I mentioned before (2000 - 2001, where they actually was even larger) they openly write about abandonware, encourage their readers to try it and even give a links to most popular sites. Without it, I personaly wouldn't even know that such sites exist.
That's pretty funny. :) In my experience and observation over the years I've found that in most cases those who speak out the loudest against piracy most likely themselves are pirates or have in their possession copies of copyrighted works that they do not have a legal license for, or have otherwise engaged in copying/viewing/listening to copyrighted content without having the right to do so - even if they are unaware that they are or have done so.

Just about everyone has gotten a photocopy of a recipe or some other material that someone made and handed to them before, or they've photocopied pages out of a book or a magazine without obtaining the rights from the copyright owner. People record music off the radio, make mixed tapes and possibly give them to friends, ditto with movies on VHS tape or other media. People watch dozens of youtube videos every day which contain content that is copyrighted for which the person who uploaded it has no legal right to have done so, then people watch it and share the links on Facebook etc...

The fact is that it is almost impossible to find a living human being who has not violated copyright law either knowingly, or unknowingly just by being human and going about regular day to day activities without thinking about it too much. ;) But that doesn't stop some people from barking up one side and down the other about it. :)

I just call a spade a spade myself. My preference is to have easily obtainable hassle-free legal content whenever that is possible and generally to just do without when it isn't, but I'd be lying if I said I don't click on random youtube videos people post without tracking down the copyright owners of the content and ensuring I have a legal right to view the content or listen to the background music etc. beforehand and other such things.

Everyone is a pirate, whether they know they are or not. Arrrrr thar mateys!

GOG just helps make it soo much easier to be legit and not have to deal with the darker side of all that stuff. I'll take a GOG released game over a pirated copy of some game any day! Even if it is the exact same binaries!

With regards to "abandonware" though, I personally don't care what people choose to do for themselves with that stuff, but to think the stuff is "legal" or "legit" is just a big laugh. I say do whatever you want, but don't fool yourself about the legal aspects of such things folks. :)
Posted June 28, 2014
Found some opportunities for Blood Omen for folks:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=m570.l3201&_nkw=blood+omen&_sacat=0

It's mostly just PS1 games by the look of it, but they might run in an emulator on the PC I imagine.

Doh, a bit better search term locates the PC version!
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=blood+omen&_osacat=0&_trksid=m570.l3201&_nkw=blood+omen+PC&_sacat=0

Might be tricky to get it to work though, probably will need some good googlin skills to screw around with such an oldie. :)
Post edited June 28, 2014 by skeletonbow
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