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Siannah: So cheating is okay as long as you get caught? One might see it that way, I don't.
Yes, it's not always the best team that wins. But you can win fair and square or in a cheesey way. For me, Uruguai took the second.

First of all keep in mind that every single player tries to 'cheat' at one point or another in every match. They play the ball with their hands, they try to score goals with their hands, they grab each other, they send opponents to the ground, they fall to the ground on their own (meaning they 'act'), etc, etc.
All players have these illegal moves at their disposal and they use them. When they get caught and punished accordingly it doesn't make those moves any less 'ugly' to watch but it does mean that the outcome of the match is being settled according to the rules everybody agreed on, and that's all anybody can ask in terms of fairness.
Suarez' move, is a last resort that every player in every team has at their disposal, and i bet most, if not all, would've done the same. The fact that the red card he got ended up coming across to some as not really a punishment, since the game was endidng anyway, is purely incidental and hardly Suarez' or Uruguai's fault. Had he done it 5 minutes in and Uruguai would have played an entire match with 10 and this wouldn't even be an issue. Had Ghana not failed at a crucial stage in the match and this wouldn't even be an issue. Basically you're punishing Uruguai's team for something purely incidental and for Ghana's failure.
I really can't see how anyone can question the merit or fairness of Uruguai's win. People (or teams) who win on their own merit, playing by the rules, without 'aid', deserve to be congratulated, or at least they do in my book.
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Namur: I really can't see how anyone can question the merit or fairness of Uruguai's win. People (or teams) who win on their own merit, playing by the rules, without 'aid', deserve to be congratulated, or at least they do in my book.

Bad youtube video but it shows clearly why I can't support your claims of winning "fair and square" - please watch at least the part from 2:20 on.
For me, this is winning in a cheesey way. You may still see it otherwise, but I can't and won't.
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mystral: Most players in that same situation, including me, would do exactly the same thing.
So get off your high horse.

Witch won't make it any better in my book. Again, and as I already stated earlier, you may see it that way, but I don't. And no, I won't even comment on the high horse part.
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Siannah: Bad youtube video but it shows clearly why I can't support your claims of winning "fair and square" - please watch at least the part from 2:20 on.
For me, this is winning in a cheesey way. You may still see it otherwise, but I can't and won't.

The guy was in tears because inspite of his move there was virtually no chance of his team moving on, and then he celebrated when Ghana missed the penalty ? Man, what an evil bastard, he should be banned from football forever...
Crazy crazy crazyyyyyy.
Craaaaaaaazyyyy match.
Post edited July 03, 2010 by Cambrey
Congratulations Spain! :D
Foi uma batalha suada, vocês mereceram!
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Namur: The guy was in tears because inspite of his move there was virtually no chance of his team moving on, and then he celebrated when Ghana missed the penalty ? Man, what an evil bastard, he should be banned from football forever...

Nice sarcasm. I can accept something as this as reality but please, allow me to have a different opinion then you have. Moving on.
Spain won and all crazyness (which mostly came from the 2 penaltys) aside, I can't say that they impressed me. Will be an interesting match against Germany. Right now I probably would bet on Netherlands vs. Germany for the final if I would gamble.
Gongrats Germany and Spain.
I'm very surprised to see 3 European teams in the last 4 all things considered.
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Namur: The guy was in tears because inspite of his move there was virtually no chance of his team moving on, and then he celebrated when Ghana missed the penalty ? Man, what an evil bastard, he should be banned from football forever...
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Siannah: Nice sarcasm. I can accept something as this as reality but please, allow me to have a different opinion then you have. Moving on.
Spain won and all crazyness (which mostly came from the 2 penaltys) aside, I can't say that they impressed me. Will be an interesting match against Germany. Right now I probably would bet on Netherlands vs. Germany for the final if I would gamble.

And you would lose that gamble, but it's ok, you're allowed to be wrong.
Yes, Germany was very good in this last game, congratulations! :)
Volta pra casa Maradona! :p
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Siannah: Spain won and all crazyness (which mostly came from the 2 penaltys) aside, I can't say that they impressed me.

Overall, I too am a little bit disappointed with Spain's performances, but on the other hand, what an amazing striker that they have. I barely knew David Villa before the world cup, but that guy is a demon. He kind of reminds me Rudi Völler.
Netherlands 3 x 2 Uruguay. I'm surprised by how long Uru and Paraguay lasted, and I really wished Uruguay would win today... but that wasn't what happened.
Another superb match coming tomorrow.
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Namur: And Brazil is out too. Probably not a good day to be around Dunga :|

I have no words about it. :(
2014 it is, for Brazil.
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Drelmanes: Volta pra casa Maradona! :p

E vai voltar vestido. re re re
Congrats Netherlands.
And Uruguai, what a big heart on that team, unbelievable. I hope they get 3rd place even if that game is kind of a punishment and i really wish FIFA would take it off the calendar already.
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taczillabr: I have no words about it. :(
2014 it is, for Brazil.

Yeah, better luck for us both for 2014 ;)
Oh, o Maradona a correr nú pelas ruas de Buenos Aires ? Não Obrigado.
Mas aposto que não te vais importar se a Larissa Riquelme tirar os trapitos caso a Espanha ganhe. ;)
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Drelmanes: Volta pra casa Maradona! :p
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taczillabr: E vai voltar vestido. re re re

Hahaha! Ainda bem, né? :)
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Namur: Oh, o Maradona a correr nú pelas ruas de Buenos Aires ? Não Obrigado.
Mas aposto que não te vais importar se a Larissa Riquelme tirar os trapitos caso a Espanha ganhe. ;)

Claro que não! :)
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Namur: Yeah, better luck for us both for 2014 ;)
Oh, o Maradona a correr n� pelas ruas de Buenos Aires ? N�o Obrigado.
Mas aposto que n�o te vais importar se a Larissa Riquelme tirar os trapitos caso a Espanha ganhe. ;)

Digo o mesmo pro Maradona, Não. E sem obrigado.
Larissa Riquelme?? *googling*
Não sabia dessa "aposta" da tal Larissa... Você agora me convenceu a torcer pela Espanha, ao invés da Alemanha... hahaha "Go Go Go, Espanha!"
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Drelmanes: Hahaha! Ainda bem, n�? :)

Aiiinda bem.
Tomara que em 2014 o Ronaldo não prometa sair pelado por aqui... junto com suas companheiras Ronaldetes.
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Drelmanes: Claro que não! :)
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taczillabr: Larissa Riquelme?? *googling*

Ok, então tá combinado. Todos a torcer pela Espanha amanhã. Já que o Escrete e a Selecção estão fora ao menos que algo nesta copa nos dê algum alento ;)