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foad01: The example with the Selaco developers shows that is not always a smart idea to raid and spam social media channels of developers.
That was certainly the first impression, but I don't think it'll stay that way for much longer.

GOG's ridiculously inconsistent curation that often forces developers to apply multiple times doesn't help either, if we're looking for reasons why developers get angry at such requests.
Post edited March 12, 2023 by SargonAelther
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foad01: The example with the Selaco developers shows that is not always a smart idea to raid and spam social media channels of developers.
What happened ?
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foad01: The example with the Selaco developers shows that is not always a smart idea to raid and spam social media channels of developers.
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DD & Ji Ji: What happened ?
This is what the developer of Selaco said about the incident:
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/selaco_upcoming_gzdoom_engine_powered_game/post252
https://www.gog.com/forum/general/selaco_upcoming_gzdoom_engine_powered_game/post257

In short: users of ZP's Discord channel raided and spammed the social media channels of Selaco so that they release Selaco on ZP.
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foad01: In short: users of ZP's Discord channel raided and spammed the social media channels of Selaco so that they release Selaco on ZP.
Thank you for the reply .
Post edited March 12, 2023 by DD & Ji Ji
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foad01: In short: users of ZP's Discord channel raided and spammed the social media channels of Selaco so that they release Selaco on ZP.
Considering how many active users the Discord server had, at the time, I'd say that's a gross exaggeration. Three or four people joining to request a release at Zoom is neither a raid nor spam. Nobody was raided or spammed, and nobody was asked to raid or spam. If that many people making a request is a raid and spam then what would you call all of the people here that asked, pleaded, and demanded Skyrim be released here for years? How about Dawn of War or any other popular game?

Anti-marketing! Lies! Conspiracy! Poaching! SMOG!
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DoomSooth: [...]
LOL!

You are still trying to ignore what the developer of Selaco said.

You are even ignoring ZP's staff that told you to stop.
Post edited March 12, 2023 by foad01
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foad01: LOL!

You are still trying to ignore what the developer of Selaco said.

You are even ignoring ZP's staff that told you to stop.
The developer is free to choose where the game is released. I have no problem with that. All I did was contradict what you said. I have no reason to lie because I personally don't care about the game one way or the other. If I had bought it from Zoom or GOG, it would have been to help support them. As I said before, if someone talks crap about GOG and/or Zoom when they are wrong, I will defend either or both.

Troll harder.
Post edited March 12, 2023 by DoomSooth
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DoomSooth: [...]
I have no reasons to tell any lies here. All I did was to describe what ZP themselves said on their channels. The Selaco incident is linked and everyone can see what happened.

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DoomSooth: Troll harder.
And now you are shooting the messenger because you don't like the message.
Post edited March 12, 2023 by foad01
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DoomSooth: [...]
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foad01: I have no reasons to tell any lies here. All I did was to describe what ZP themselves said on their channels. The Selaco incident is linked and everyone can see what happened.

And now you are shooting the messenger because you don't like the message.
If you have no reason to do it then why are you doing it? Shooting the messenger doesn't mean what you seem to think it means. You can say whatever you like. If I see something I disagree with, I will disagree with it. It doesn't matter what it's about. You said what you said in an attempt to get me to be quiet.
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DoomSooth: If you have no reason to do it then why are you doing it? Shooting the messenger doesn't mean what you seem to think it means. You can say whatever you like. If I see something I disagree with, I will disagree with it. It doesn't matter what it's about. You said what you said in an attempt to get me to be quiet.
I am not trying to stop you. I also can't stop users of ZP's Discord channel to spam and hijack threads here.
Post edited March 12, 2023 by foad01
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foad01: I am not trying to stop you. I also can't stop users of ZP's Discord channel to spam and hijack threads here.
You can't really complain much about this one. Zoom is in the subject. If this were about GOG "poaching" from Zoom or anywhere else, and I noticed it, I'd probably still post.
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foad01: I am not trying to stop you. I also can't stop users of ZP's Discord channel to spam and hijack threads here.
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DoomSooth: You can't really complain much about this one. Zoom is in the subject.
I am not really complaining about this one, but it is fascinating how many people from ZP's Discord channel have already posted in this thread.
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foad01: I am not really complaining about this one, but it is fascinating how many people from ZP's Discord channel have already posted in this thread.
How many people from GOG have posted here? Why does it matter who from both sides posts here? I also have a Steam, Epic, Red Candle, Microsoft, and other accounts. I don't expect anyone to buy anything at Zoom, though it would be nice. Did you see the post about FlatOut: Ultimate Carnage that someone made? Pretty sure you replied to it. Was the person that said it's at Zoom just supposed to say nothing? There's no harm in mentioning it, if no other DRM-free stores have it. Is that also anti-GOG marketing to mention a game that GOG doesn't have? Others feel free to mention games that GOG and Steam have in common when Steam is having a sale. It happens a lot because Steam is never not having a sale. "Why buy from GOG when it's cheaper at Steam?" Then a DRM versus DRM-free argument is started.

Also, you were the first to reply to the original post in this topic. You had nothing better to do than respond immediately to it? Anti-Zoom marketing and spam!
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DoomSooth: [...]
You continue to shoot the messenger because you don't like the message...
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foad01: You continue to shoot the messenger because you don't like the message...
No answer, huh? Anyway, I'm not shooting anyone or anything. You don't like my messages. Does that mean you're shooting the messenger?