Posted January 10, 2015

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justanoldgamer
Mainly human
Registered: May 2011
From Canada
Posted January 10, 2015
The venerable ENIAC which was at best a glorified calculator who pretended to be the world first computer because the British destroyed and classified theirs and Konrad Zuse was German.
I always wonder what the Japanese were doing on the computer front during WW2 but I never read anything about the subject.
I always wonder what the Japanese were doing on the computer front during WW2 but I never read anything about the subject.

ignisferroque
Lurker
Registered: Feb 2014
From Germany
Posted January 10, 2015
First we had at home:
Macintosh LCII
16MHz
10MB Ram
40MB Hard Disk
Installed coprocessor card
Later we added a 700MB HD (about 400 dollars i think) and a 4x CD Rom Drive for about 200 dollars. Im still amazed when i see offers for 32GB usb sticks for 10 bucks now :D
First own one was a (used) Macintosh LCIV (yeah, we liked the series...)
25MHz
16 or 24MB Ram can't remember
It sucked compared to my fathers PowerPC, but hey, first computer on my own desk, still awesome ;)
Macintosh LCII
16MHz
10MB Ram
40MB Hard Disk
Installed coprocessor card
Later we added a 700MB HD (about 400 dollars i think) and a 4x CD Rom Drive for about 200 dollars. Im still amazed when i see offers for 32GB usb sticks for 10 bucks now :D
First own one was a (used) Macintosh LCIV (yeah, we liked the series...)
25MHz
16 or 24MB Ram can't remember
It sucked compared to my fathers PowerPC, but hey, first computer on my own desk, still awesome ;)

snowkatt
Easily Bored
Registered: Oct 2010
From Netherlands
Posted January 10, 2015

Macintosh LCII
16MHz
10MB Ram
40MB Hard Disk
Installed coprocessor card
Later we added a 700MB HD (about 400 dollars i think) and a 4x CD Rom Drive for about 200 dollars. Im still amazed when i see offers for 32GB usb sticks for 10 bucks now :D
First own one was a (used) Macintosh LCIV (yeah, we liked the series...)
25MHz
16 or 24MB Ram can't remember
It sucked compared to my fathers PowerPC, but hey, first computer on my own desk, still awesome ;)
but there was an lc III+ and an LC 475 http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_lc/specs/mac_lc_475.html

ignisferroque
Lurker
Registered: Feb 2014
From Germany
Posted January 10, 2015

but there was an lc III+ and an LC 475 http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/mac_lc/specs/mac_lc_475.html
Post edited January 10, 2015 by ignisferroque

_Slaugh_
Feel the beat!
Registered: Apr 2011
From Canada
Posted January 10, 2015

snowkatt
Easily Bored
Registered: Oct 2010
From Netherlands

ignisferroque
Lurker
Registered: Feb 2014
From Germany
Posted January 10, 2015

lc
lc II
lc III
lc III+
lc 475
lc 520
and then power mac 8400 8500 8600 9600
and quadra
and centris
and urgh
al of that was sweeped away in 1998-99
you had the powermac G3 ( beige then blue and white )
the powerbook G3 ( kanga then wallstreet )
the imac
and the ibook
easy !
Post edited January 10, 2015 by ignisferroque

snowkatt
Easily Bored
Registered: Oct 2010
From Netherlands
Posted January 10, 2015

lc
lc II
lc III
lc III+
lc 475
lc 520
and then power mac 8400 8500 8600 9600
and quadra
and centris
and urgh
al of that was sweeped away in 1998-99
you had the powermac G3 ( beige then blue and white )
the powerbook G3 ( kanga then wallstreet )
the imac
and the ibook
easy !

a lot of the computers were crippled ( the lc's were crippled and the performa 6200 6300 and 4400 are abysmal )
just get a load of this bollocks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Macintosh_6200
and this
Depending on CPU speed, memory runs at one-half to one-third of CPU speed. (Because RAM is so slow compared to current CPUs, this is normal for PowerPC and Intel Macs. For instance, a G3 can run at up to 8 times motherboard speed.)
It takes four memory cycles to load a 64-bit word (which equals 8-12 CPU cycles, since the processor is two-to-three times faster than memory!). Cycle 1: read 32 bits. Cycle 2: store 32 bits. Cycle 3: read next 32 bits. Cycle 4: combine with first read for 64-bit instruction. Then the CPU can process the instruction.
Because it used a 32-bit motherboard, different functions are handled by different 32-bit buses, called Left 32 and Right 32.
Left 32 handles networking, audio, ADB, and SCSI. Networking, audio, and ADB are each 16 bits wide; SCSI (for CD-ROM and external devices) is 8 bits wide. This involves a lot of overlap and causes a lot of problems.
Right 32 includes the 32-bit memory controller, the 8-bit IDE hard drive controller, the 32-bit graphics controller, the 16-bit video controller, and the (thankfully optional) 8-bit TV controller. Again, this involves a lot of overlap and can cause a lot of problems.
Any time something on Left 32 needs to communicate with Right 32 – or vice versa – it must go through the CPU, which acts as a bridge. This really slows down the CPU, since it must divert its attention from processing data to moving data between sections. And don’t forget the four-cycles-per-64-bit-word problem noted above.
Because of the design, all data from the serial port, comm slot, or an ethernet card must pass though the CPU to reach system memory. This makes for very poor performers on the Internet.
Because of this peculiar architecture, upgrading the level 2 cache or increasing VRAM would actually slow things down. Good thing they aren’t options!
Apple saved money by using IDE hard drives instead of SCSI drives. Not only is IDE cheaper, but cheap IDE drives tend to be slower than cheap SCSI drives. (This is not the issue it once was, as the IDE/ATA specification has come a long ways since then.)
Again to save money, Apple left hardware handshaking off the serial ports. These were the only PowerPC-based Macs without GeoPort serial ports. (Even the Mac Plus has hardware handshaking!) This limited users to a comm slot modem or a 9600 bps or slower external modem.
A comm slot modem disables the modem port; a comm slot ethernet card disables the printer port.
these things are hideous frankenstein monsters
and the performa 600 isnt much better
and this
[url=http://web.archive.org/web/20100201100435/http://www.insanely-great.com:80/features/010806.html]http://web.archive.org/web/20100201100435/http://www.insanely-great.com:80/features/010806.html[/url]
Post edited January 10, 2015 by snowkatt

drealmer7
finding balance
Registered: Dec 2010
From United States
Posted January 10, 2015
Mine was a Leading Edge 0x86 from 1985. It had no hard drive but TWO 5.25" floppy drives. You had to put in 1 disc to boot up the computer and then another to run whatever program you wanted (LOTUS, etc.)

Dashe
Likes Potatoes
Registered: Nov 2012
From United States
Posted January 10, 2015
I never really knew exactly what my first computer was in terms of specs because I was still in grade school. All I can say for sure is that it had Windows 3.1 and no mouse at a time when computer mice were standard, and my next computer would end up being a downgrade from that to this boxy Apple thing with only black and white pixels, no games, and a dot matrix printer. :P

snowkatt
Easily Bored
Registered: Oct 2010
From Netherlands
Posted July 11, 2016
wise fwom your gwave !
its time to necro this thread
mostly due to this https://www.gog.com/forum/general/the_giveaway_of_the_community_giveaway_bestsellers/post7
its time to necro this thread
mostly due to this https://www.gog.com/forum/general/the_giveaway_of_the_community_giveaway_bestsellers/post7

Fairfox
New User
Registered: Sep 2010
From United States
Posted July 11, 2016
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Matewis
By Toutatis!
Registered: Jan 2011
From South Africa
Posted July 11, 2016
Mine was a 386 too! I later got a 486 and held onto that until the Wreck of the Maria Doria.
edit: Actually, might've been the deck.
edit: Actually, might've been the deck.
Post edited July 11, 2016 by Matewis

Gede
GNU/Linux user
Registered: Nov 2014
From Portugal
Posted July 11, 2016
Yeah! Lets!
The first computer I actually chose was a Pentium Pro 180MHz with 16MB of RAM with an 8X CD-ROM!
I spent a lot of time saving stuff to floppies so that I could import them to the new machine.
The first computer I actually chose was a Pentium Pro 180MHz with 16MB of RAM with an 8X CD-ROM!
I spent a lot of time saving stuff to floppies so that I could import them to the new machine.