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GOG.com: To claim it, all you have to do is click on the XIII banner visible on our main site
I would like to know who at your HQ thinks it is not only morally ok but also LEGALLY fine to openly LIE in the forum announcement (a type of PR announcement by ALL MEANS, ergo subject to customer protection as well as company disclosure laws).
"The banner" clearly states that clicking it means agreeing to receive your marketing materials. It's clearly a requirement. There doesn't seem to be any way around it to get to the giveaway short of asking someone else to give you their key.
So, to be precise, the information from the banner should be repeated in this forum announcement. Otherwise this is just plain deception and it's kind of illegal.
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Breja: Your Spring Sale marketing spam trojan horse you mean. Is that what all the giveaways are going to be now? Get a free game if you agree to get the spam we're pushing? Ok then. I'll pass on your games and your spam.
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pkk234: Just opt out right after through settings?

e: I will agree it's an annoying change. I thought naively it was a one time thing, whenever it happened the first time.
And since when is opting out AFTER the fact a "solution" by ANY standards?
So then what?
Any data they MAY collect during that time is theirs to keep?
Is that what you're saying?
Because their marketing emails do include trackers. Their website contains ton of them (and it's fair to assume it crossreferences email-account with email-agreed-to-marketing databases when doing website telemetry).
So they definitely do collect SOME data when sending those emails even in just mere seconds between opt-in and opt-out.

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Breja: I could. But I won't, because fuck them.
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XYCat: Maybe it's time to download all the installers for everything you bought here and delete your gog account.
Maybe it's time to stop being ignorant and acknowledge that things should be opt-in instead of opt-out and the amount of data they gather differs depending on if you opted in or not.

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Breja: How dare I criticise the almighty stupor mundi that is GOG!
Oh hey Breja /s
Yes another reunite under yet another controversial (as in anything that goes against "the precious GOG" is considered so apparently) move on GOG's part.

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Breja: Anyone else? Come on, the more the merrier!
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vv221: Well, I understand you with no difficulty at all.
Also using a service or playing a game (say free2play) doesn't warrant being blindly loyal and ignoring it's flaws.
Life isn't about everything or nothing, black or white, cheesecake or diet.

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Breja: Also, I'm very curious in what way I disrespected you guys by saying that I don't want GOG's spam :D I wasn't addressing any user at all, and still was told to GTFO. I guess some fanboys take anything said against GOG very personaly :D
*In Elliot Carver's voice*: "Touché"

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mad_crease: I do find it very sad that people who say they hate something so bad, still take the time to display their anger over the option to download a "free" game. It would have been easier to just not click the link and ignore it completely.
Why yes, it's far easier for most to ignore the issue until it affects them personally.

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mad_crease: If you're going to discuss aspects of the game, by all means drop your dis-satisfaction or enjoyment. Other people here are not "enemies". We all are just gamers trying to enjoy what little pleasures we can find in life.
With all due respect but you are not the one to dictate what can and cannot be said in this thread.
Also the people in question don't have an issue with the game itself.

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mad_crease: This is a game. You can chose to get it for "free" or elect to have nothing to do with it. It's a simple choice and doesn't need arguments, berating, or insults.
It's not free. You are just paying with things different than money (in this case giving away some of your privacy, as well as time required to dump marketing emails to bin).

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mad_crease: Just like all the info-stealing apps on your smart devices, all the web sites you go to, all the info-sites we log into, even the maps and location ID we have elected to give companies permission to use. Ever use an online service? You gave up some of your rights.
Speak for yourself. The very fact that there are people here voicing their discontent means that at least some of them don't accept how things stand and perhaps they do take measures to not be subject to corresponding privacy violations.

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mad_crease: We live in a crazy world where people do things that bring them misery, just to display contempt or anger. We have a choice to chose to add the game or not.
We live in a crazy world where people let sh*t slide because it's easier for them to not get out of their comfort zones and they will refuse to acknowledge the problem until it's too late and it affects them too.
Some people even have the nerve to crucify those who voice their concerns about the issues in question.

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firstpastthepost: I think you have every right to complain about things you dislike and many of the things I’ve seen you complain about are valid. A lot of the things I’ve seen you complain about seem to be minor or not really issues. This is a perfect example of that. Asking you to sign up for a newsletter to get something free isn’t a onerous or terrible practice. It’s a marketing strategy that’s easy for you to game. Demanding that you get free stuff only on your own terms is pretty entitled. I’m not trying to be insulting or say you shouldn’t speak your mind. I just don’t understand your motivation.
One man's issue is another man's jam. Just because YOU don't see something as a problem does NOT mean it cannot BE one.

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Breja: "delete your account"
By the way, isn't this a terribly convenient way of thinking for coprorate overlords?
After all at that point all the fuss gets shoved under the carped and "nobody knows" and "everybody is happy" /s

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tfishell: there are already several threads dedicated to criticizing GOG, people can rant in there
Ah yes, it would be very convenient to contain all constructive criticism in prelude of nuk*ng the thread to erase all public evidence of discontent wouldn't it?
But of course /s
Great!
Thanks !!
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MarkoH01: ... Is somebody out there who could explain to me WHY GOG decided to make subscribing to their newsletter a REQUIREMENT for a FREEBIE? Especially since you have the option to opt out afterwards - it hasn't been this way before, so it's obviously not a technical "issue". The only reason for this I can imagine is that they kind of hope that people don't unsubscribe or forget. ...
its not that simple, gog is spineless and very, very shady but not stupid. as far as i get it:

with the agreement (even if it lasts for 1 ms) gog gets the right to sell data, that they have about you in that moment (games you own, when you purchased them, your location, ..., i dunno maybe even what kind of porn you prefer), to other companies for marketing analysis. so this game is not free and otherwise they wouldn't make this shitty move. its all bout money.
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apehater: with the agreement (even if it lasts for 1 ms) gog gets the right to sell data, that they have about you in that moment (games you own, when you purchased them, your location, ..., i dunno maybe even what kind of porn you prefer), to other companies for marketing analysis. so this game is not free and otherwise they wouldn't make this shitty move. its all bout money.
Thing is, when one makes an account here GOG likely already collects (and perhaps sells to others) all that data and maybe more....even if one doesn't sign up to the newsletters.
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apehater: with the agreement (even if it lasts for 1 ms) gog gets the right to sell data, that they have about you in that moment (games you own, when you purchased them, your location, ..., i dunno maybe even what kind of porn you prefer), to other companies for marketing analysis. so this game is not free and otherwise they wouldn't make this shitty move. its all bout money.
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GamezRanker: Thing is, when one makes an account here GOG likely already collects (and perhaps sells to others) all that data and maybe more....even if one doesn't sign up to the newsletters.
You know, how do I say it... law outside US is vastly different and companies aren't exactly allowed to legally do sh*t like that by default...
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apehater: with the agreement (even if it lasts for 1 ms) gog gets the right to sell data, that they have about you in that moment (games you own, when you purchased them, your location, ..., i dunno maybe even what kind of porn you prefer), to other companies for marketing analysis. so this game is not free and otherwise they wouldn't make this shitty move. its all bout money.
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GamezRanker: Thing is, when one makes an account here GOG likely already collects (and perhaps sells to others) all that data and maybe more....even if one doesn't sign up to the newsletters.
yeah you are right, although i assume its not worth much. since in the best case that account is empty (no games) after creation and then the user opts out.
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GamezRanker: Thing is, when one makes an account here GOG likely already collects (and perhaps sells to others) all that data and maybe more....even if one doesn't sign up to the newsletters.
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B1tF1ghter: You know, how do I say it... law outside US is vastly different and companies aren't exactly allowed to legally do sh*t like that by default...
yeah and we all know, how much gog likes to not do any shady sh*t!
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GamezRanker: Thing is, when one makes an account here GOG likely already collects (and perhaps sells to others) all that data and maybe more....even if one doesn't sign up to the newsletters.
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apehater: yeah you are right, although i assume its not worth much. since in the best case that account is empty (no games) after creation and then the user opts out.
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B1tF1ghter: You know, how do I say it... law outside US is vastly different and companies aren't exactly allowed to legally do sh*t like that by default...
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apehater: yeah and we all know, how much gog likes to not do any shady sh*t!
Well I never said GOG is legally in the clear /s
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B1tF1ghter: You know, how do I say it... law outside US is vastly different and companies aren't exactly allowed to legally do sh*t like that by default...
I wasn't saying that to defend GOG or it's actions...but rather (in part) to point out said shady shit by GOG and other companies and also the fact that they(and others) collect such data even when one doesn't sign up to things like newsletters. ;)

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B1tF1ghter: Well I never said GOG is legally in the clear /s
You know that /s means the line that proceeds it is sarcasm, right? ;D

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apehater: yeah you are right, although i assume its not worth much. since in the best case that account is empty (no games) after creation and then the user opts out.
I am guessing that, like with ad clicks, it adds up over time. Still yeah, it likely would be a good idea for "new users" to get such games so GOG gets as little data as possible.

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apehater: yeah and we all know, how much gog likes to not do any shady sh*t!
Yeah, they're total saints, they are....why last week they gave copies of games(and galaxy) to all the orphans in town**. ;D
(**and then probably proceeded to collect and sell the orphans data afterwards)
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GamezRanker: ...
Yeah, they're total saints, they are....why last week they gave copies of games(and galaxy) to all the orphans in town**. ;D
(**and then probably proceeded to collect and sell the orphans data afterwards)
LOL you know, i wouldn't be surprised, if they would start to collect and sell orphans

thats gog/cdpr red for you, doing very shady stuff since 2014 (most likely even since 2010)
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apehater: LOL you know, i wouldn't be surprised, if they would start to collect and sell orphans
GOG: Oliver Twist Edition......now with added commitment(and galaxy)!

(Gog User: Can I get that without the galaxy?)
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B1tF1ghter: Well I never said GOG is legally in the clear /s
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GamezRanker: You know that /s means the line that proceeds it is sarcasm, right? ;D
I know that perfectly. Tho do YOU know that it's usage often lessens outrage? (I don't know why. It's almost like some sort of subconsciousness thing for some people)

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B1tF1ghter: You know, how do I say it... law outside US is vastly different and companies aren't exactly allowed to legally do sh*t like that by default...
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GamezRanker: I wasn't saying that to defend GOG or it's actions...but rather (in part) to point out said shady shit by GOG and other companies and also the fact that they(and others) collect such data even when one doesn't sign up to things like newsletters. ;)
Already breaking laws cannot be an excuse to do that some more. So it's irrelevant if they may possibly be already smuggling some data without consent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vt1OWkaJu0

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tfishell: there are already several threads dedicated to criticizing GOG, people can rant in there
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skirtish: And it's perfectly pertinent to also rant here about issues they have with this particular promotion.

Does Breja strike a mighty dramatic pose? Yes. Did he attack anyone personally? No. In turn, though, he was personally attacked and hit with downvotes; from where I'm standing: for the crime of having bad opinions and not stating them apologetically enough.

These mob dynamics are never a pretty thing to watch.
You know what? Fair points. However, for me, that style of posting ("mighty dramatic pose" I suppose) tends to push me to the other side - it's like a political group trying to achieve their goals by harassing average people they come across.

I downvote posts I find obnoxious so I don't have to constantly see them when I go through a thread. Obviously that happened with my post which is totally fair too.

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tfishell: there are already several threads dedicated to criticizing GOG, people can rant in there

Thanks for the free game btw
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mrkgnao: there are already several threads dedicated to praising GOG, people can thank in there
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B1tF1ghter: I know that perfectly. Tho do YOU know that it's usage often lessens outrage? (I don't know why. It's almost like some sort of subconsciousness thing for some people)
That usually works if a person says something others might not like(unpopular opinion, crude reply, etc), so then when the other person sees it wasn't serious they might not react to it as harshly.

But when someone says something as you did(something agreeable and civil) and then uses the sarcasm tag, it can become a bit confusing(to some).

Like if a person says "I also like chocolate ice cream /s", then the one reading it might be more like "does he like it or not, then?"

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B1tF1ghter: Already breaking laws cannot be an excuse to do that some more. So it's irrelevant if they may possibly be already smuggling some data without consent.
I was mainly trying to point out that they do it whether people sign up for the newsletters or not.....I wasn't trying to argue whether it's legal/morally right or not.
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B1tF1ghter: I know that perfectly. Tho do YOU know that it's usage often lessens outrage? (I don't know why. It's almost like some sort of subconsciousness thing for some people)
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GamezRanker: That usually works if a person says something others might not like(unpopular opinion, crude reply, etc), so then when the other person sees it wasn't serious they might not react to it as harshly.

But when someone says something as you did(something agreeable and civil) and then uses the sarcasm tag, it can become a bit confusing(to some).
The problem is that as evident in this and many other threads it really doesn't matter if someone is civil in what they say, they may still get attacked for NO REASON.
So in such case using the tag may be a preemptive desperate attempt at stoping it before it happens.
I do find large portion of the forums needlessly hostile (and also many people get outraged by facts).
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B1tF1ghter: The problem is that as evident in this and many other threads it really doesn't matter if someone is civil in what they say, they may still get attacked for NO REASON.
So in such case using the tag may be a preemptive desperate attempt at stoping it before it happens.
They're just words. Also people get needlessly upset over so many things these days...the best thing(imo) is to usually pay them no mind.

Side note: Using the sarcasm tag when one isn't being sarcastic can lead to confusion or even people getting upset regardless. If one wants to lighten the mood and not possibly confuse people, I find a smiley works wonders.....like :) or :D or something similar.

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B1tF1ghter: I do find large portion of the forums needlessly hostile (and also many people get outraged by facts).
Some are, but most aren't(from what i've seen).
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