It seems that you're using an outdated browser. Some things may not work as they should (or don't work at all).
We suggest you upgrade newer and better browser like: Chrome, Firefox, Internet Explorer or Opera

×
Community
General discussionXBone vs PS4 - Which one to get?(81 posts)(81 posts)
(81 posts)
Pages:
1
2
3
4
5
6
This is my favourite topic
Posted October 12, 2015
I got both of them last November. So far i've used the Xbox One at something like 10 times the useage of the PS4. The PS4 has ended up mostly connected to my projector as a glorified Blu-Ray player- just like the PS3 before it. So far i class the PS4 as a dud, that isn't even the equal of the machine it replaced. Though both machines have been reliable and perfect functionality wise.

So far the PS4 only has one advantage, it has a power advantage. And even that hasn't shown itself yet, but i admit as more games are made from the ground up for the new systems the power advantage may become more noticeable. But remember the original Xbox had a huge advantage over the PS2 and Sony people said it didn't matter, but now it does apparently. Anyway, so far the best visual spectacles have been on Xbox One. Weird. So far the few games i've tried on both systems look so similar that i can't even decide what's best...and strangely they've seemed smoother on the Xbox. But that's only so far like i said.

In every other way the Xbox One has, so far been the better machine for me. Want more HD space? I did too. I had a 2TB USB3 HD lying around that i didn't need for storage anymore...plug into the Xbox and now i have a 2.5TB Xbox. There is no performance hit. Just add any USB3 HD and format it as a system drive. For the PS4 you have to open it up and swap the internal drive to get more space.

What's that, you have a huge 4TB USB drive with your porn collection on it and want to watch it on your TV? Plug it in and do it. Any USB 2 drive can work as a media drive for the Xbox. Though in fairness , i think Sony have or are finally about to, allow the PS4 to use external media drives, but i haven't seen it working yet. The reason i have 2 consoles is to use one for gaming and the other gets hooked to the projector as a general purpose media player and occasionally they swap places. Th PS4 has been a worthless media player...the PS3 did far more- they actually REMOVED functionality because Sony wants you to use their streaming services for media.

You want to pay $5 and rent all the EA sports titles using EA Access? To bad, Sony on your behalf, decided that you're far too stupid to decide how to spend your money and knocked it back for your own protection. Or is it because they want you using their own rental services again?

I prefer the Xbox controller, though the PS4 one is much improved over the little PS3 kiddie controller. The Xbox One controller is also a wired PC controller- just plug in a micro USB cable that's long enough- auto support for Win 10, needs to download drivers for earlier Win.

If you game online, then XBL is still, by far, the faster (fastest speeds i get on the net in fact) and more reliable service. It's also nice for me that my ISP treats everything XBL as unmetered...which was good that day when i downloaded 150G in one afternoon. PSN is still subject to performance issues often. But that may be geo localized to Australia- we don't even have the option of using PS Now.

It's only personal, but i prefer the games that are exclusive to Xbox, Sunset Overdrive is some of the best fun i've had in years and one of the most underrated games, plus the best soundtrack ever. Though Sony does have some good ones too- mainly Bloodborne.

Early access and mods? Only on Xbox One.

For the future: MS say that from November onward ALL GwG 360 games will also be compatible with Xbox One, and 360 games are still a purchase, not rentals (unlike Xbone and PS3/4 games with PSN+). So that's 4 games per month to play if you subscribe to Gold. To get full value from the Sony equivalent you need a PS3 and PS Vita as well. PSN Plus subs are region locked. XBL subs can be purchased as pre-paid international codes at 40% cheaper.
Also for the future MS are bringing out cross platform purchase for some games...buy it through XBL and you have access for both Xbox and Win 10 versions when they get this happening.

Xbox One is getting mouse and keyboard support. Mostly for PC streaming, though rumors say that it's possible it will be relaxed for use in bringing RTS and isometric RPG's to Xbox One with optional mouse control. I'm not sure i really believe that though.
Post edited October 12, 2015 by CMOT70
Posted October 12, 2015
Can you wait? If you are not in a hurry you may wanted to wait for more exclusive on the platform before making a decision.

If you want to buy now, you can get PS3 for cheap with a large selection of games. It will give better value of money.

If you can consider Wii, it would give better value by virtue of its backward compatibility with many older games.

Still, running an emulator on the PC offer the best value, as you have a crazy list of PC exclusive games on top of the ability to run every console exclusive. I bought the CDs of console games but run the emulator on PC as I think it is a bad investment chasing after so many console with new version coming out every few year.

Besides, games are going into the multi platform direction thanks to Unity / Unreal and whatever game engine offering multi platform compatibility.
Posted October 12, 2015
If your internet is good and you have Windows 10, go with the XBOne. You'll be able to stream your library back and forth between the 2 and have more options. With the PS4 you're kind of stuck waiting on exclusives that may or may not be ported. If you were in Japan then it would make more sense because they have way more games over there that never see the western sun. You can also get free rewards points for XBox, so you won't have to worry about subscription money for online services like PSN+.

The benefit of PS4 though would be the PSN network and access to classic titles that they won't port to PC cause that would put them out of business. Sony is great for living in the past that way. But in terms of modern support they're mostly obsolete and heavily reliant on the support and loyalty of their developers. Speaking of, you also get The Last of Us and anything else Naughty Dog makes. But is that worth it? Up to you to decide.

Have fun either way.
Posted October 12, 2015
Perhaps the only part of this question is that it suggests the only real two options are the two offered. Ever since E3 from when the two systems were revealed it's almost been a 'buy the one system and boycott the other' back when Microsoft had such horrible policies in place. And yet, buying what could have been an equally horrible system as telling MS off seems odd.

Some psychology has shown where if you're given 2 choices you'll choose one of the two. I've already recommended getting neither, but other than getting/upgrading a PC there are still lots of options that are considerably cheaper, namely going with older generation hardware.

Many of the 8th gen games have issues getting to 30fps, while older systems had no issues keeping 60, they just weren't in HD. Gamecube, PS2, both excellent systems with hundreds of games between the two to keep you happy, and at a fraction of the price. Maybe the games are 10 years old, but many of them with reviews to tell you if the game is worth getting, and usually at the $10 mark rather than the $60. Metroid prime 1&2, Odin Sphere, Dark Cloud 2, .hack... so many games to choose from.

So ultimately if you have to have games, look in the older libraries for systems you already have or can get rather inexpensively. At worst when you come back to getting one system or the other, there will be more games, and preferably when the price drops.
Post edited October 12, 2015 by rtcvb32
Posted October 12, 2015
I was in the same boat and ended up buying a PS4.

Both have pro's a con's that balance each other out. For example the XBox controller is smoother and sits more comfortably in the hand, but the PlayStation offers nicer-looking games because the colors stand out more. The Xbox has extensive backwards compatibility but the PSN offers much better sales deals in my opinion. And so on.

So I would use the 'exclusives' as the main factor, the best ones right now...according to my taste:

PS4: Bloodborne, Driveclub, Killzone Shadow Fall, Godzilla and The Last of Us Remastered.
Plus a fair number of JRPs. Critics hated Godzilla and Driveclub but I thought they were fun.

Upcoming PS4 exclusives that look fun: Uncharted 4, Horizon Zero Dawn and Hellblade.
There's Gran Turismo 7 too of-course.

XOne currently good exclusives: Forza Motorsport 6...not the best Forza game but better than #4 & 5.
There's the Halo The Master Chief Collection too...but you did not like Halo so...

Upcoming XOne exclusives that could be fun: Crackdown 3, Gears of War 4, Halo 5 and Scalebound.

In my opinion, and following my own tastes, the PS4 offers more fun and interesting games, it also seems to offer more fresh IPs.
Post edited October 12, 2015 by R8V9F5A2
Posted October 12, 2015
avatar
CMOT70: I got both of them last November. So far i've used the Xbox One at something like 10 times the useage of the PS4. The PS4 has ended up mostly connected to my projector as a glorified Blu-Ray player- just like the PS3 before it. So far i class the PS4 as a dud, that isn't even the equal of the machine it replaced. Though both machines have been reliable and perfect functionality wise.

So far the PS4 only has one advantage, it has a power advantage. And even that hasn't shown itself yet, but i admit as more games are made from the ground up for the new systems the power advantage may become more noticeable. But remember the original Xbox had a huge advantage over the PS2 and Sony people said it didn't matter, but now it does apparently. Anyway, so far the best visual spectacles have been on Xbox One. Weird. So far the few games i've tried on both systems look so similar that i can't even decide what's best...and strangely they've seemed smoother on the Xbox. But that's only so far like i said.

In every other way the Xbox One has, so far been the better machine for me. Want more HD space? I did too. I had a 2TB USB3 HD lying around that i didn't need for storage anymore...plug into the Xbox and now i have a 2.5TB Xbox. There is no performance hit. Just add any USB3 HD and format it as a system drive. For the PS4 you have to open it up and swap the internal drive to get more space.

What's that, you have a huge 4TB USB drive with your porn collection on it and want to watch it on your TV? Plug it in and do it. Any USB 2 drive can work as a media drive for the Xbox. Though in fairness , i think Sony have or are finally about to, allow the PS4 to use external media drives, but i haven't seen it working yet. The reason i have 2 consoles is to use one for gaming and the other gets hooked to the projector as a general purpose media player and occasionally they swap places. Th PS4 has been a worthless media player...the PS3 did far more- they actually REMOVED functionality because Sony wants you to use their streaming services for media.

You want to pay $5 and rent all the EA sports titles using EA Access? To bad, Sony on your behalf, decided that you're far too stupid to decide how to spend your money and knocked it back for your own protection. Or is it because they want you using their own rental services again?

I prefer the Xbox controller, though the PS4 one is much improved over the little PS3 kiddie controller. The Xbox One controller is also a wired PC controller- just plug in a micro USB cable that's long enough- auto support for Win 10, needs to download drivers for earlier Win.

If you game online, then XBL is still, by far, the faster (fastest speeds i get on the net in fact) and more reliable service. It's also nice for me that my ISP treats everything XBL as unmetered...which was good that day when i downloaded 150G in one afternoon. PSN is still subject to performance issues often. But that may be geo localized to Australia- we don't even have the option of using PS Now.

It's only personal, but i prefer the games that are exclusive to Xbox, Sunset Overdrive is some of the best fun i've had in years and one of the most underrated games, plus the best soundtrack ever. Though Sony does have some good ones too- mainly Bloodborne.

Early access and mods? Only on Xbox One.

For the future: MS say that from November onward ALL GwG 360 games will also be compatible with Xbox One, and 360 games are still a purchase, not rentals (unlike Xbone and PS3/4 games with PSN+). So that's 4 games per month to play if you subscribe to Gold. To get full value from the Sony equivalent you need a PS3 and PS Vita as well. PSN Plus subs are region locked. XBL subs can be purchased as pre-paid international codes at 40% cheaper.
Also for the future MS are bringing out cross platform purchase for some games...buy it through XBL and you have access for both Xbox and Win 10 versions when they get this happening.

Xbox One is getting mouse and keyboard support. Mostly for PC streaming, though rumors say that it's possible it will be relaxed for use in bringing RTS and isometric RPG's to Xbox One with optional mouse control. I'm not sure i really believe that though.
So what your saying is the biggest plus point for the xbone is its a limited pc, and all the games require son sort of DRM or download/account. Well feck me sideways with a point stick and take my £600 straight away! No, seriously, I will wait 5 years until idiot fanboys have thrown their money into the new version and chuck this one out, an old saying "a fool and their money are soon parted"
Posted October 12, 2015
avatar
mistermumbles: - lastly, the games!: I do know they share practically all third-party games between one another, so this may come down to the exclusives. Is it even worth getting one over the other for them anymore? Seems like all Bone has going for itself really is the Halos and GoWs (couldn't give a fig about the latter), while Sony historically seems to have a better breadth of options and variety in their catalog, but at the same time it's not a huge amount there either. Thoughts?
This is essentially the only big difference controllers not withstanding.

The question is, do you like Japanese games (or rather, Japanese games with anime aesthetics)? If you do not then both consoles are more or less viable. If you do then only PS4 is viable.

PS4 will be receiving all the big and small 3rd party support from both Japanese and western developers. Currently people cry about no exclusives but at the moment PS3 is still supported (for a year or so longer) and until that point many games will still get PS3 versions but developers will start ditching PS3 versions as the release dates get closer and closer to November 2016.

Bonus points on PS4 is if you're willing to import since there are games that will never be localised.

avatar
nightcraw1er.488: My thoughts exactly. £500 for a console, plus £80 a game, not that there is anything interesting currently. Must be mad to buy them.
Where'd you get those numbers from? PS4 is £280 and the games are generally around £40.

avatar
nightcraw1er.488: Well feck me sideways with a point stick and take my £600 straight away
No seriously, where do you pull these numbers from?

avatar
nightcraw1er.488: and all the games require son sort of DRM or download/account.
Not that different from PC considering Steam still remains by and large the only big platform to get games from.
Even physicals are dead more or less with only steam keys put inside the cases.

And no, GOG or Origin can't rival it at all.
Post edited October 12, 2015 by Yrtti
Posted October 12, 2015
avatar
mistermumbles: - lastly, the games!: I do know they share practically all third-party games between one another, so this may come down to the exclusives. Is it even worth getting one over the other for them anymore? Seems like all Bone has going for itself really is the Halos and GoWs (couldn't give a fig about the latter), while Sony historically seems to have a better breadth of options and variety in their catalog, but at the same time it's not a huge amount there either. Thoughts?
avatar
Yrtti: This is essentially the only big difference controllers not withstanding.

The question is, do you like Japanese games (or rather, Japanese games with anime aesthetics)? If you do not then both consoles are more or less viable. If you do then only PS4 is viable.

PS4 will be receiving all the big and small 3rd party support from both Japanese and western developers. Currently people cry about no exclusives but at the moment PS3 is still supported (for a year or so longer) and until that point many games will still get PS3 versions but developers will start ditching PS3 versions as the release dates get closer and closer to November 2016.

Bonus points on PS4 is if you're willing to import since there are games that will never be localised.

avatar
nightcraw1er.488: My thoughts exactly. £500 for a console, plus £80 a game, not that there is anything interesting currently. Must be mad to buy them.
avatar
Yrtti: Where'd you get those numbers from? PS4 is £280 and the games are generally around £40.

avatar
nightcraw1er.488: Well feck me sideways with a point stick and take my £600 straight away
avatar
Yrtti: No seriously, where do you pull these numbers from?

avatar
nightcraw1er.488: and all the games require son sort of DRM or download/account.
avatar
Yrtti: Not that different from PC considering Steam still remains by and large the only big platform to get games from.
Even physicals are dead more or less with only steam keys put inside the cases.

And no, GOG or Origin can't rival it at all.
That's the price it was at release, has it halved in value already? And yes, steam may be the biggest retailer, but I don't use them, can you say there are alternatives on the consoles?
Posted October 12, 2015
avatar
nightcraw1er.488: That's the price it was at release, has it halved in value already?
It never was even close to £500 or £600. PS3 60GB began at $600 (that's dollars, not pounds) while PS4 was at $400 or so (again, dollars, not pounds)

Now it's due for a price cut in NA and Japan at the very least. EU price cut might take a bit longer time since it's uncontested in EU when it comes to sales.

avatar
nightcraw1er.488: but I don't use them
Irrelevant. For the majority of PC games that's the only place you're going to get them nowadays. Only few games come DRM free these days.

avatar
nightcraw1er.488: can you say there are alternatives on the consoles?
Some games only get digital downloads, sure, but a vast majority of them get physical releases that aren't account bound.
Post edited October 12, 2015 by Yrtti
Posted October 12, 2015
avatar
nightcraw1er.488: That's the price it was at release, has it halved in value already?
avatar
Yrtti: It never was even close to £500 or £600. PS3 60GB began at $600 (that's dollars, not pounds) while PS4 was at $400 or so (again, dollars, not pounds)

Now it's due for a price cut in NA and Japan at the very least. EU price cut might take a bit longer time since it's uncontested in EU when it comes to sales.

avatar
nightcraw1er.488: but I don't use them
avatar
Yrtti: Irrelevant. For the majority of PC games that's the only place you're going to get them nowadays. Only few games come DRM free these days.

avatar
nightcraw1er.488: can you say there are alternatives on the consoles?
avatar
Yrtti: Some games only get digital downloads, sure, but a vast majority of them get physical releases that aren't account bound.
I cant be bothered to respond, just contact me in a couple.of years, I will give you £20 to take it away (although download only games its.probably not worth paying that for it).
Posted October 12, 2015
avatar
nightcraw1er.488: I cant be bothered to respond, just contact me in a couple.of years, I will give you £20 to take it away (although download only games its.probably not worth paying that for it).
Are you seriously that afraid to admit you were wrong about the pricings? Why do you even get into arguing about anything if you're going to cop out in such a passive-aggressive manner should you be wrong?
Posted October 12, 2015
avatar
serpantino: ...I think people take too much stock in the hardware side of things when it's not the most important thing, especially not if you have a half decent gaming pc.
Exactly, you don't buy a console if your priority is graphics or 'experience customization' (with FOV and all that).

Consoles should only be compared against each other, it is the proper way to make these kind of comparisons. Most people however insist on comparing consoles to a PC, even though they were designed for different things.

PCs are built for customization, to meet the ever-increasing demand of software, including AAA games and taxing niche-games. You can customize your PC for all kinds for purposes, gaming being just one of them. How much you can customize your PC for gaming depends on your budget and/or your priorities.

Consoles are built to last 6+ years. They are not designed for customization. So naturally the PC will always be ahead in terms of graphical performance. Comparing a static system with a dynamic one leads to the dynamic one always being "better" since it can adapt to changing conditions, therefore it is not an informative way of making a comparison since the outcome is pre-determined. The outcome in this case is concerned with 'which system offers the best graphical performance'.

Comparing stationary consoles against each other makes sense, comparing hand-held consoles against each other makes sense...comparing a PC against a PS4 makes as much sense as comparing it against a WiiU, in other words it makes no sense.
Posted October 12, 2015
avatar
nightcraw1er.488: I cant be bothered to respond, just contact me in a couple.of years, I will give you £20 to take it away (although download only games its.probably not worth paying that for it).
avatar
Yrtti: Are you seriously that afraid to admit you were wrong about the pricings? Why do you even get into arguing about anything if you're going to cop out in such a passive-aggressive manner should you be wrong?
No, you are the one who wants to argue. Xbox one was released at £429 in the UK. Add to that the subscription a game and tour not far off my price, which I just put in from memory considering it is 2 years ago. So £280 you say, so £150 down since release, rough guess of 35% decrease in value.
Posted October 12, 2015
avatar
nightcraw1er.488: No, you are the one who wants to argue. Xbox one was released at £429 in the UK. Add to that the subscription a game and tour not far off my price, which I just put in from memory considering it is 2 years ago. So £280 you say, so £150 down since release, rough guess of 35% decrease in value.
Not only did you try to say that PS4 launched at either £500 or £600 (since it varied in two replies) you're still off.
The initial Xbone cost was upped because of the forced Kinect initially (M$ failed their PR badly before launch and still after with the forced Kinect nobody wanted) and they soon made a version without Kinect available which cost $399 instead of the $499 it was with Kinect.

Including Gold membership for one year just to push the launch price up to your desirable number is downright ridiculous since it's not something that is completely forced upon you.

Either way, your replies have had little to do with the actual subject of the thread and have actually been more or less pushing platform wars or rather, just bashing consoles. Which again begs the question, why even respond to the thread?

avatar
nightcraw1er.488: which I just put in from memory considering it is 2 years ago
When were console games ever £80? It's pretty silly to spout outdated info anyhow. Even Xbone is just $349 for the 500GB version and $399 for the 1TB one.
Posted October 12, 2015
avatar
Yrtti: ...PS4 will be receiving all the big and small 3rd party support from both Japanese and western developers....
...Where'd you get those numbers from? PS4 is £280 and the games are generally around £40.
I've also been reading that Japanese developers are getting increasingly interested in the Indie-scene, and I think their preferred system of delivery will be the PlayStation, considering its extensive distribution channels and cost-cutting options. Most of us have already noted the growing battle over indie game exclusives on console, this is only going to intensify.

£280 is roughly what a decent graphics card will cost you today (depending on your location) if you want the game to look any better than on console. This is ignoring the cost of other upgrades you might have to do.

£40 is also the upper launch price of a console game, and £40 is what most AAA games on PC costs these days.

Just look at Green Man Gaming: Fallout 4 costs £40, Star Wars Battlefront £50, XCom 2 is also £40, Just Cause 3 is slightly lower at £36.

Heck even Far Cry 4 and Dying Light will still cost you £40 since their release in November 2014 and January 2015 respectively. In contrast Far Cry 4 on PS4, brand new, costs only £25 on Amazon UK, and Dying Light is even cheaper at £19.

Some games get cheaper on PC, but not all. Some get cheaper on console, but not all.
Post edited October 12, 2015 by R8V9F5A2
Pages:
1
2
3
4
5
6
This is my favourite topic
Community
General discussionXBone vs PS4 - Which one to get?(81 posts)(81 posts)
(81 posts)