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Posted September 28, 2015
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NovumZ: Nope on steam you rent and you don't own games you *supposedly* purchase. I do not need to make a bigger thread about this then I need to.
you are so wrong on so many accounts that it is silly. Your ownership on Steam and gOg is the same. There are many other things which are better or worse with Steam vs gOg, but ownership is not one of them - as it is exactly the same. This argument just makes the DRM free 'revolution' seems silly and have no idea what they are talking about...

Nice slogan, though... No point being right when you have a nice slogan.
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amok: Steam can take away access to manage the game via Steam only, and the same goes for gOg.
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Smannesman: Oh my god!
GOG can take away my access to Steam games?
That's diabolical!
lol.. YES!!!
Post edited September 28, 2015 by amok
Posted September 28, 2015
Amok I'm very happy you're enjoying steam, good for you, applause!
I stand for something along with many millions more. I will rather wait with the possibility of never getting my wish then to be a sellout.
Post edited September 28, 2015 by NovumZ
Posted September 28, 2015
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HanselPete: I would love to see mor Star Trek games here.
Elite Force, yay!!!
And I would like to see more RPGs here. Much more RPGs. In fact, I wouldn`t mind if GoG would change their name into GORPG (Good Old Roleplaying Games). :-)
Posted September 28, 2015
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NovumZ: Amok I'm very happy you're enjoying steam, good for you, applause!
I stand for something along with many millions more. I will rather wait with the possibility of never getting my wish then be a sellout.
I have no problems with you standing for something, good for you and it is your right. Just get your facts right and don't base your arguments on slogans. Nothing wrong with taking a stand against Steam, but they do enough bad things for you to take a stand against. You make a much better stand if it is based on reality, rather than silliness.
Post edited September 28, 2015 by amok
Posted September 28, 2015
We know the reality. :)
Posted September 28, 2015
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NovumZ: We know the reality. :)
apparently not...

Consider this - as ownership of a game is the same on gOg as on Steam, and if you are only renting a game on Steam - then what happens to the games on gOg?

It is a silly argument, and I am sorry I harp on about it, but it is a pet hate of mine. Please do boycott or attack steam or what-ever, but please do so for the right reasons. DRM is a fine enough reason, and it is enough. Your OP should have been: "Racing Games on gog since I'm only using this service. I don't like steam and others because of the DRM." - and that would have been all nice and dandy. And, most importantly - it would have been correct. The rest you added was fluff which was pointless and untrue.
Posted September 28, 2015
In conclusion: your reality is different from mine.

Now that we've settled on the differences; lets all enjoy our realities. :)

https://embed.gog.com/wishlist/games/assetto_corsa
Post edited September 28, 2015 by NovumZ
Posted September 28, 2015
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NovumZ: In conclusion: your reality is different from mine.

Now that we've settled on the differences; lets all enjoy our realities. :)

https://embed.gog.com/wishlist/games/assetto_corsa
Indeed. - my reality is based on what is happening, laws, IP's and the real world. Your reality is based on a slogan and emotions. And that's is fine, and your right. But don't be surprised if people to point at you and giggles a little bit. Which I guess is all I can do, really.
Posted September 28, 2015
...good old First Person Shooter games from happy mindless DOS era. Get lost nostalgia, you're killing me! ;)
Posted September 28, 2015
Let's not forget about the principles.

-Your reality is based on your perception of it and geoeconomic background you're from.
Posted September 28, 2015
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NovumZ: Let's not forget about the principles.

-Your reality is based on your perception of it and geoeconomic background you're from.
indeed... and you are from the US...

and before we continue with this, there is no point before you answer my previous question:
"Consider this - as ownership of a game is the same on gOg as on Steam, and if you are only renting a game on Steam - then what happens to the games on gOg?"

edit- (ps: there is a button on the top-right corner of a post with an orange arrow that says "reply". If you use this, the other person know you have responded to a post)
Post edited September 28, 2015 by amok
Posted September 28, 2015
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NovumZ: snip
It's as simple as that: legally you don't own your games on GOG either.

When you were talking about "owning a game" vs "renting a game" you did not clarify what you mean by that. Since you did not clarify what you mean by "owning a game", it is fair to correct you because legally (and thus officially) you don't acquire any ownership of he game or its content but just a license, which you could consider being the same thing as renting a game -Even on GOG.
Post edited September 28, 2015 by 0Grapher
Posted September 28, 2015
Amok you're very well written, I am not. This is very simple, simple statement from a gamer: We want to own the games we purchase. Ownership is very satisfying experience and it's our right. I have quite a bit of games that are collecting dust because I refused to accept licence agreement. They are licensing games now, there was no such thing back in a day! you bought it - you played it, it was yours!

My last reply to this thread and I just want to thank gog for being pro gamer and I will do my best to support you guys. Thank you CDPR for making a Brilliant game!
Posted September 28, 2015
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NovumZ: They are licensing games now, there was no such thing back in a day!
Yes, there was.
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NovumZ: you bought it - you played it, it was yours!
No, it wasn't.
Post edited September 28, 2015 by 0Grapher
Posted September 28, 2015
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NovumZ: Amok you're very well written, I am not. This is very simple, simple statement from a gamer: We want to own the games we purchase. Ownership is very satisfying experience and it's our right. I have quite a bit of games that are collecting dust because I refused to accept licence agreement. They are licensing games now, there was no such thing back in a day! you bought it - you played it, it was yours!

My last reply to this thread and I just want to thank gog for being pro gamer and I will do my best to support you guys. Thank you CDPR for making a Brilliant game!
It has always been like this. You are mixing up "ownership" and "access", which are two different concepts. In the old days of "disk-only" you still only licensed the game, you did not own it. In fact, when you bought a game you owned the disk, but licensed the game which was on it. Even back then it was licenses. This can be exemplified with breaking the disk, i.e. loosing access to it. Where you then only renting the game?

The same with gOg - I have some hundreds games here which I have not downloaded. What if gOg deletes my account tomorrow? i.e. I loose access to my games. Does it mean I only rented my games on gOg?
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