Gilozard: American parties can't exclude people like that until the primary. ... It's not really possible to exclude candidates for 'incompatible views', ... Trump is a Republican party member, so he's running in the Republican primary. ...
Trilarion: Hmm, this is indeed a bit strange. I don't really understand why Trump cannot be thrown out of the GOP, why the party cannot distance itself from him and why they cannot exclude him already now unstead of waiting until the primaries.
What really stops them from saying: "This guy has views that are not worthy of a GOP member and we will never ever let him continue in the primaries and already now he is not running in our name - in short he is not a candidate for the GOP." As it is now, it looks more like they don't want to say it because they partly sympathize with his ideas. I don't say this must be true but that is certainly the impression that is transported and it is not doing much good. Showing tolerance to extreme guys like Trump is just crazy. One should not do it.
US party system != EU party system.
There's simply nothing a political party can officially do at this stage.
The primary is the official party candidate selection. We are currently in campaigning-for-party-endorsement season. Only at the primary will the official party candidate be selected. Currently no one running for president represents either party.
There's no way to kick someone out of the party for political views, and is illegal/ unconstitutional to limit membership of a public organization based on political views, just like it is for race, gender, sex or religion. Also, any attempt would be massively unpopular and viewed as a deliberate attack on free speech, civil rights, and the constitutional right of Americans to run for political offices. Any party who tried it would lose every election, everywhere, for all time.
A lot of things that are OK in the EU are illegal/unconstitutional in the US when it comes to limiting free speech and political expression or association. One example is banning Nazi symbols - I know some EU countries have done it, but it's flat out illegal suppression of free speech over here.
Or saying 'showing tolerance to extreme guys is crazy' - this is a huge debate in the US, and Trump has not crossed the established line. He would have to actively advocate direct violence to specific people , as in 'I will now go and attack Person X who is at Y_place with my Weapon_Z' before our free speech laws would stop protecting him.
Trump has run every chance he could for a long time.
He never wins at the primary, i.e. never gets the official party endorsement. His run now doesn't mean anything, reporters are just giving him airtime because he's so outrageous he gets lots of clicks/views.
Trilarion: Hmm, this is indeed a bit strange. I don't really understand why Trump cannot be thrown out of the GOP, why the party cannot distance itself from him and why they cannot exclude him already now unstead of waiting until the primaries.
What really stops them from saying: "This guy has views that are not worthy of a GOP member and we will never ever let him continue in the primaries and already now he is not running in our name - in short he is not a candidate for the GOP." As it is now, it looks more like they don't want to say it because they partly sympathize with his ideas. I don't say this must be true but that is certainly the impression that is transported and it is not doing much good. Showing tolerance to extreme guys like Trump is just crazy. One should not do it.
Klumpen0815: Do you really think it's about ideology? As long as no socialist tendencies are visible, the republicans probably really don't care.
It's only about money and he got plenty thanks to his heritage.
US party system != EU party system.
There's simply nothing a political party can officially do at this stage.
The primary is the official party candidate selection. We are currently in campaigning-for-party-endorsement season. Only at the primary will the official party candidate be selected. Currently no one running for president represents either party.
There's no way to kick someone out of the party for political views, and it's illegal to limit membership of a public organization on the basis of political views, just like it is for race, gender, sex or religion. Also, any attempt would be massively unpopular and viewed as a deliberate attack on free speech, civil rights, and the constitutional right of Americans to run for political offices. Any party who tried it would lose every election, everywhere, for all time.
A lot of things that are OK in the EU are illegal/unconstitutional in the US when it comes to limiting free speech and political expression or association. One example is banning Nazi symbols - I know some EU countries have done it, but it's flat out illegal suppression of free speech over here.
Trump has run every chance he could for a long time.
He never wins at the primary, i.e. never gets the official party endorsement. His run now doesn't mean anything, reporters are just giving him airtime because he's so outrageous he gets lots of clicks/views.
TL;DR People are campaigning for party endorsement now, and they can't be barred from that. The primary is the official party endorsement, no one has it yet. Free speech and civil rights laws forbid barring people from membership on the grounds of political views.