Yup, permabanned from what I've heard.

Because how many do YOU know who like chemical synthesis puzzle games(with solitaire extras)? Not many, correct?

That sounds like a n*che audience(compared to more played genres) to me.

(Also to be fair it's one of the more recent n*che audience games I could think of that I noticed....if I needed to I could likely find a better one with a bit of effort)
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Even when I make good arguments and am civil I get low rated, so your point holds little water.

Also what about others like posts 243/244/249? They said nothing bad or insulting and also go l*w r*ted? Are you suggesting they are all as bad as some see me, or that they also talk out of their behind?

Good questions/post.

I can't speak for others but there are some exceptions to what I think should be allowed...but they are very few(obvious asset flip type stuff, etc).

Quite a few people, actually, and as I said - Zachatronics have a large fan base. Among puzzle games, they are considered one of the best developers. The games are very, very good, you should try them. Start with Opus Magnum.

edit... and I see you ignored the context... again...

(He had some nice posts, but his caustic spreading of distrust among some here[those he liked vs those he disliked] and derailing/trolling weren't helping...a shame, as I tried my best to encourage his rare good posts and behavior & get along with him)
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Compared to such games, maybe, but not to bigger genres/more well liked titles/series.....i.e. more n*che audiences(comparatively speaking).

I mean can we at least agree that Molek Syntez's audience is very likely to be much smaller than say Mass Effect series/Build engine games/etc? If so, then what would you call the audience of some games like Molek-Syntez(and others that are likely much better examples, but which I cannot think of atm) if not a more n*che audience than that of other games?

This bit doesn't disprove my point, though(though it is somewhat good for them/fans of such).

I'll look into it, but it is likely not my cup of tea if it's similar to Molek-Syntez(in look/play/feel/etc)....I will still look into it, though. :)

What did I ignore? I cannot know if I can or should rebutt/refute or how without info/details. :)

(Also you seem to be focusing too much on my example case....it's not the only one, and I just used it off the top of my head...there are likely better ones.....just because that game isn't the best proof of my point doesn't mean my point is invalidated fully: i.e. That games with much smaller potential user bases get approved and others with higher ones get rejected)

I have no idea what n*che is...and puzzle games are very popular

and? so will Wizardy: Labyrinth of Lost Souls... a lot less then Mass Effect. so you are sating gOg should not sell it then....

Do so, and start from Opus Magnum, it is more accessible, and have prettier graphics.

the "Context:" part of my my post with many links... it was the largest part of that post... it is one of the major rationale why Molek-Syntez is here.

It's a certain term gog uses in it's rejection letters usually and which some here l*w rate on sight....I censor it to avoid the l*w rate bots and those who dislike it.

Also yes popular, but how popular are games like Moletk-Syntez?

You don't seem to be getting my point.....that IF Molek-Syntez is approved so easily and it a small audience(compared to those such games) on the basis of too n*che the argument/reason begins to fall apart when games with larger potential audiences/player bases get rejected on the same reasoning/for the same reason.

I think Molek-Syntez should be sold here and that also those others games should as well....I think very few(non asset flip/etc) games should be rejected, actually.

I will look into ti after chores/doing some other net stuff...so at least within the month.


I cut it as I didn't have time to properly go through those links and give a proper read through/rebuttal and wanted to debate properly and not reply to things I hadn't read much of yet, to be fair when replying.

Although, if all of it was essentially "their games sell" and was done to rebutt me possibly saying that the game didn't belong here, know that(as said above) that wasn't the case.....I want that game to be here, for those that want it.....I was debating what I said last reply: That if games with smaller n*che audiences get approved and those with bigger ones(but still less than AAA) get rejected the whole "too n*che" reply by Gog falls apart.....and then one wonders why they really re rejecting those games and other things.

Go eat sum crow, bro!

Grimoire, which you were ADAMENT about not being released here, outsold a quarter of the entire gog catalogue (minus DLC) within a week of release. lol

Grimoire also outsold the latest Zachtronics game, despite the latter having da yuuge fanbase!

Das rite! I'm smart enough to make my own purchasing decisions. Maybe you aren't, but that's no reason why the rest of us should have to suffer. I'm into freedom of choice. I'm the kind if guy who wants to sit in a greasy spoon and think, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol. I want to eat bacon, butter and buckets of cheese, okay? I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in a non-smoking section. I wanna run through the streets naked with green Jello all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to. Okay, pal? I've seen the future, you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sittin' around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake singing "I'm an Oscar-Meyer Wiener".

What a wonderful night to have a shitflinging contest. :)

If it finally comes out, they should release it here too. It's Wizardry, goddammit!

Ok then, but why did you skip answering so much of my post? What about the question in part 1? And did you get my point or not in part 2(and what your stance on that was)? And what about my point/"argument" in the last part?

I get if you're done with this and want to move on, or don't have time atm, but a quick "I will answer the rest later" or "I am done with this/for now" would help clear up whether I should keep going or not, or if I should wait on a possible reply or not. :)

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I wonder if any nahysayers or those who think that Gog always knows best will ever admit they're wrong....I am willing to if I was ever wrong(or proven wrong).....they should be willing as well.

This is what I meant.....these sorts of games seem to usually sell more copies overall and appeal to more people, yet such games(zachtronics one game) get approved right off the bat & these others get rejected.

If n*che was a valid excuse the approvals/rejections would be reversed.

Great reference, btw.

(Also that scene where they were singing that jingle in the car was hilarious)

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If you want free uprates just disagree with me....seems anyone who does so gets instant high ratings. :D

(But what do you mean by sh*tflinging? The talk between me and amok? Or the one between others, me, and rwarehall?
Just curious)

That doesn't change the fact Grimoire is a game with horrible reviews outside the obvious brigading from people all calling it better than any Wizardry game ever made and upvoting these one-sided reviews to stack the deck of "most helpful" reviews. And even with all that, it seems to have only a 3.9 rating...

We'll see what long term sales it has as you compare it to a game which has yet to see a sale...

MOLEK-SYNTEZ has a 94% positive review score on Steam among actual purchasers from 232 reviews in just 2 months. Grimoire has a 68% positive score on 432 reviews in over 2 years. Other Zachtronics games are selling even better.

There isn't a single positive review on GoG for Grimoire outside the first week it was released with more than half of them posted the same day of its release. You may have convinced some people to buy it initially, I wonder how many of them are now regretting that decision and whether they will follow you into that madness again...

But as usual you want every game here, while GoG still has problems keeping games up to date with the latest patches and isn't in the best of financial states as it's essentially breaking about even.

Meanwhile people complain about GoG curation in favor of games with terrible reviews and calling successful genres like Zachtronics puzzle games "niche" when they are significantly outselling knockoff RPG clones like Grimoire.

At least Wizardry: Labyrinth of Lost Souls received middling reviews on the PS3 and was not universally panned. They plan to release the upgraded port for a seemingly reasonable price, and assuming its a good port (which there is no guarantee), this title might actually be worth picking up. Then again, it has also been released on iOS (with a similar middling review score 6/10), so we'll have to see if the quality is actually closer to the freemium iOS version or is really upgraded into a decent PC title.

But all these calls about how horrible GoG curation is for denying a game which has been ported to iOS and was never well reviewed says a lot about those complaining about GoG curation...

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(Had to repost this way as Gog borks posts and edits to fix posts if you mess up one bracket...sorry everyone for this...post parts and replies are numbered for easy reference)
1. Who cares how many GOOD REVIEWS a game gets if it gets less sales than another? Which does Gog care more for, do you think? The money to be made or what people write in reviews? I don't think good reviews pay their server bills and other costs.

2. People who reviewed might own another store's version and know the game well enough to review some of it's aspects.....also if people were regretting it they'd stop buying and tell others to not buy....that isn't happening as far as I can see.

3. We want more games, not every game.....please keep up, as many of us keep saying this yet you keep misstating our stance on this.

Also that poor financial state is why Gog should be accepting SOME more games(not all) that would sell well.

4. Puzzle games as a genre(barring casual stuff like candy crush and also stuff like HOGs) is less popular/less well selling than the bigger/more popular genres...that has been proven time and again.

Also those games were brought up NOT to focus on them specifically but to showcase how games with smaller sales bases get accepted while those with bigger ones get rejected.

Or in other words: You are not seeing the forest for the trees.

5. Decent points here.

6. That doesn't disprove our points.

You don't see the forest through the trees. Puzzle games from Zachtronics ARE outselling old-school turn-based RPGs like Grimoire, Fall of the Dungeon Guardians and all the other "niche" titles you keep touting as bestsellers.

Proof is in the pudding with data from the largest online video game retailer in the world.

You have literally stated you want every game here except asset flips...that's pretty much every game. That's your statement, not mine. I've also gone into the costs GoG incurs to bring titles here and have explained in detail why GoG loses money on poorly selling titles.

You keep acting as if you know better than GoG about their own business and what it takes to make money. It's painfully obvious that you don't.