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with energy blackout you probably wont have time or energy to play anyway
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morolf: If there's a real blackout lasting days or weeks, video games will be the least of our worries.
Depends if your residence has solar panels and live in a consistently sunny place.
Post edited November 02, 2021 by Crosmando
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ProzacFreak: i lose my internet all the time, and most of my steam games run fine. i just log in offline.
there are a few, like GTA 4&5 and the NFS games that I can't do this with, but most everything else is fine.
I was the opposite. So my family went to a rural area for over a month with no internet at all, so I filled my laptop with many downloaded steam games. But after almost a month all games failed to start and Steam keep demanding me to go online. That was when I decided to find no DRM solution and found GOG. I only use Steam for online games like TF2 and Battlefield games.
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Kelefane: Its safe to assume that for as long as Computers and gamers are around, Steam will always be around right along with them. Steam isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Definitely not in our life time.
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Chasmancer: Whilst I do acknowledge your point, if I had a brick for every time I heard this sentiment in regards to something that didn't last, I'd build a kremlin by this point and have plenty left over.
Sometimes, the bigger they are...
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With a power blackouts, how does the average joe download the game? Better yet, on computers that need that power to remain on? How many people actually back up their GOG games? I bet it's a lot less than you'd think. Anyway, why will there be blackouts? Has Brandon done something silly... again?
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ProzacFreak: i lose my internet all the time, and most of my steam games run fine. i just log in offline.
there are a few, like GTA 4&5 and the NFS games that I can't do this with, but most everything else is fine.
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RedRagan: I was the opposite. So my family went to a rural area for over a month with no internet at all, so I filled my laptop with many downloaded steam games. But after almost a month all games failed to start and Steam keep demanding me to go online. That was when I decided to find no DRM solution and found GOG. I only use Steam for online games like TF2 and Battlefield games.
How many of the games did you start before you left? I don't know if it's still a thing, but it was always wise to load the game online just once before going strictly offline. My laptop had dozens of games on it and was in Steam offline for years. But they were all "activated" first.
Post edited November 02, 2021 by darthspudius
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mechmouse: Now imagine someone like Disney owning Steam
Let's see. They'd take everything Valve/Steam is right now and completely change all aspects. Probably stop the current distribution model of buy/download/install and instead only offer streaming of games via subscription. Then they'd soak up all the IP they could and make it exclusive only on their new platform.

They'd ignore the backlash, because inevitably all the little sheep will have a subscription to the new service anyway.

Home and hosed. Disney grows even larger.
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ProzacFreak: With the energy blackout your PC isn't going to operate in the first place, so DRM is kind of moot. :P
Batteries,solar power,generators or bicycle connected to a generator to exercise while you game. :P
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darthspudius: With a power blackouts, how does the average joe download the game? Better yet, on computers that need that power to remain on? How many people actually back up their GOG games? I bet it's a lot less than you'd think. Anyway, why will there be blackouts? Has Brandon done something silly... again?
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RedRagan: I was the opposite. So my family went to a rural area for over a month with no internet at all, so I filled my laptop with many downloaded steam games. But after almost a month all games failed to start and Steam keep demanding me to go online. That was when I decided to find no DRM solution and found GOG. I only use Steam for online games like TF2 and Battlefield games.
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darthspudius: How many of the games did you start before you left? I don't know if it's still a thing, but it was always wise to load the game online just once before going strictly offline. My laptop had dozens of games on it and was in Steam offline for years. But they were all "activated" first.
When I give them my hard earned money, then I deserve to immediately play it after download. This BS "Authentication first" is just another stupid DRM step.

Oh yeah, I already purchased this house! But I'm not the owner unless I sleep in the house for at least night? I purchased this car but I'm not the real owner unless I ride it around Portland? Oh yeah waitress that's the food I ordered, what? What do you mean I have to at least lick the food to claim it as mine? I PAID MONEY FOR THAT GAME FOR F U C K SAKE!

Also dear GOG, I know what you did there. I'm a grown man and I use the F word to emphasize my comment. I'm not a 14 years old who use that word like sailor that gone thru surgery without anesthesia.
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ProzacFreak: With the energy blackout your PC isn't going to operate in the first place, so DRM is kind of moot. :P
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§pec†re: Batteries,solar power,generators or bicycle connected to a generator to exercise while you game. :P
we have a new puppy
i think if we hooked her tail up to a generator we could power our house, the house next door, the one next to that, the town, the county, the region....
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mechmouse: Now imagine someone like Disney owning Steam
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Braggadar: Let's see. They'd take everything Valve/Steam is right now and completely change all aspects. Probably stop the current distribution model of buy/download/install and instead only offer streaming of games via subscription. Then they'd soak up all the IP they could and make it exclusive only on their new platform.

They'd ignore the backlash, because inevitably all the little sheep will have a subscription to the new service anyway.

Home and hosed. Disney grows even larger.
Pretty much, and don't forget Steam already uses a subscription contract.

It would be bit by bit, but yeah. Something like that's going to happen.

Ironically, given how they've acted in recent times, Microsoft would be the best company to buy them out, but I doubt they'll be able to due to Antitrust.
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darthspudius: My laptop had dozens of games on it and was in Steam offline for years.
Was the laptop never connected to internet during all those years, even for a brief moment?

Keeping Steam in an offline mode on a computer that still is sometimes online, is a different thing from a Steam PC being completely offline for longer periods of time.

And yeah I had the same thing as RedRagan once. Games that I had already played on Steam, none of them worked anymore when I had no internet because when I tried to run the Steam client, it demanded I have to go online before it would let me proceed. There was no offline option to fall into.

Then again, I am sure some of those installed Steam games could have been still run, by just running the game executable manually (without trying to run the Steam client). But that is the unofficial way.
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Ancient-Red-Dragon: I think overall, Steam is much more secure than GOG.

Because Steam is sure to be around for many decades into the future.

On the other hand, GOG's future is always uncertain every year.

And most GOG users do not have all of their games backed up, so if GOG goes down, then most of their games will be wiped out of existence right then.
Games without drm are always going to be safer than a platform in which all your games are for rent and have their respective control through drm.
I do think the energy blackout will have a big impact for international audiences. An energy blackout in the US does not necessarily mean that there is a global blackout. Steam servers needing to be active for a user to play the games they purchased is a legitimate concern and Im not sure that Steam will set up additional servers globally to ensure business continuity. In those cases, GOG without DRM is the most optimal bet.

I do think GOG should promote this aspect and actively discuss why DRM-free is good. Having only just recently joined PC master race, I only knew of the big 3 (Steam, Epic, and GOG) and tbh didnt really understand what DRM-free meant, let alone what advantages I as a consumer gets to retain by going DRM-free apart from a sense that I have greater ownership of my games than I do at other platforms and modding becomes more feasible (a big part of why I transitioned to PC).

Showing that this additional ownership allows users to more freely mod and ensure they can continue to play their games is a huge plus over other services.
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mechmouse: Now imagine someone like Disney owning Steam
Worse yet, imagine Steam owning Disney... ;)
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morolf: If there's a real blackout lasting days or weeks, video games will be the least of our worries.
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Crosmando: Depends if your residence has solar panels and live in a consistently sunny place.
That might work...

Though if you are relying on a solar/wind farm, power transferred has to be within 2 miles to be efficient (i think i read somewhere) meaning solar/wind can't power a large area. Among other problems. Although you might get plenty of power sometimes, I'd think with solar panels you're better off low powered, so larger computers is a no-no, while laptops tablets and others would be a better choice.