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It's almost certain that Windows 11 will be announced by Microsoft on June 24th. There are videos and screens from the leaked version, so we can be sure that the new system is coming. What's more, sources tell that there will be a free upgrade option from Windows 7, 8.1 and 10.

Personally I'm planning to stick with Windows 10 for some time. The main reason is that I play a lot of old games and I can bet there will be compatibility issues for some time after the new system is released. While I expect DOSBox to be fully compatible even with W11, this might not be the case for games using DirectX 8 and older. Of course there's always an option to keep two operating systems installed simultaneously, for example W11 for new games and W7 for older titles. This may be the best available option once the new system is released.

Are you planning to upgrade, considering the fact that these rumors will be confirmed? W10 will be supported to year 2025 at least, so there's no need to rush.
I'm giving it an immediate "wait and see", as well as if I actually need to right now. Unless mandated by the office.

But considering my bad experience with Windows 10; from it suddenly "upgrading" my Win 8 laptop without warning to Win 10, also updating during work hours and during shut down. Making my laptop run so slow that I lost time during office hours I filed a request to revert my laptop to Windows 8 OS that day.

"Free upgrades" aren't that appealing if the device you are using can't handle it.
Post edited June 20, 2021 by anizawa
No, not really, unless they promise and deliver some form of speed gain, in that case i will be upgrading before you know it
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No way. Fuck that noise.
Didn't go to 8 or 10, so i certainly won't touch 11.
If it's free, yeah.
If it's a subscription model, nah.
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I will glady update to a newer, stable and more performant OS. But Windows 10/11 is a "service" so i will stick with Windows 7.

Seriously, i don't see the point of an OS that changes things around every six months. It's an operative system, not a piece of forniture.
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Sarafan: Are you planning to upgrade, considering the fact that these rumors will be confirmed? W10 will be supported to year 2025 at least, so there's no need to rush.
Nope. They can't even get W10 right after 6 years of trying (bi-polar settings app vs Control Panel, buggy updates, ugly overly-flat "wall of whitespace" UI redesigns, etc). A lot of gamers who hate W10's unstable "Feature Updates" quietly use Enterprise 2019 LTSC which is probably the least worst version of W10 and is actually supported through to 2029. So if Microsoft does something stupid like remove DirectX5-9 compatibility to "enhance" that nouveau chic supercilious "modern experience", there's always that option as a backup plan.
Post edited June 20, 2021 by BrianSim
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Sarafan: It's almost certain that Windows 11 will be announced by Microsoft on June 24th. There are videos and screens from the leaked version, so we can be sure that the new system is coming. What's more, sources tell that there will be a free upgrade option from Windows 7, 8.1 and 10.

Personally I'm planning to stick with Windows 10 for some time. The main reason is that I play a lot of old games and I can bet there will be compatibility issues for some time after the new system is released. While I expect DOSBox to be fully compatible even with W11, this might not be the case for games using DirectX 8 and older. Of course there's always an option to keep two operating systems installed simultaneously, for example W11 for new games and W7 for older titles. This may be the best available option once the new system is released.

Are you planning to upgrade, considering the fact that these rumors will be confirmed? W10 will be supported to year 2025 at least, so there's no need to rush.
Ah, I see. New version of windows and everything will break. Nonsense. Nothing will stop working. I will likely update my main machine. The version I got is an OEM pro injected onto the motherboard, even though I paid lots for it (which is why I will not bother with pcspecialist again). So I might just fork out a proper license/disc. Whilst I still have another win10, and a win 7 box, I rarely use them now. Windows apparently does everything I need juxtaposed to the insistence of the world at large stating nothing runs on it.
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anizawa: I'm giving it an immediate "wait and see", as well as if I actually need to right now. Unless mandated by the office.

But considering my bad experience with Windows 10; from it suddenly "upgrading" my Win 8 laptop without warning to Win 10, also updating during work hours and during shut down. Making my laptop run so slow that I lost time during office hours I filed a request to revert my laptop to Windows 8 OS that day.

"Free upgrades" aren't that appealing if they device you are using can't handle it.
Yeah, hardware compatibility can be a big problem, especially when we're talking about older computers. I know people who have trouble with new W10 updates on older machines. Basically everything worked like a charm until some updates were installed. Besides that there won't be a 32-bit version of the new system, which may affect some users.
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Zimerius: No, not really, unless they promise and deliver some form of speed gain, in that case i will be upgrading before you know it
The people who installed the leaked version say that there is a noticeable performance improvement in comparison to W10. We have to wait for official announcements and tests however to be sure that this is the case.
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TomNook: If it's free, yeah.
If it's a subscription model, nah.
Fair enough. If the new system will be distributed only in a subscription model, I won't update as well. But I highly doubt Microsoft will risk such a move.
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Tharon: I will glady update to a newer, stable and more performant OS. But Windows 10/11 is a "service" so i will stick with Windows 7.

Seriously, i don't see the point of an OS that changes things around every six months. It's an operative system, not a piece of forniture.
The changes that are delivered through "major" updates aren't usually so major. To be honest, I barely notice the difference. There are some changes here and there, but nothing huge.
Post edited June 20, 2021 by Sarafan
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BrianSim: Nope. They can't even get W10 right after 6 years of trying (bi-polar settings app vs Control Panel, buggy updates, ugly overly-flat "wall of whitespace" UI redesigns, etc). A lot of gamers who hate W10's unstable "Feature Updates" quietly use Enterprise 2019 LTSC which is probably the least worst version of W10 and is actually supported through to 2029. So if Microsoft does something stupid like remove DirectX5-9 compatibility to "enhance" that nouveau chic supercilious "modern experience", there's always that option as a backup plan.
Personally I think that sooner or later Microsoft will drop support for 32-bit applications. This will be a major and controversial change that will force users to use some kind of emulator to launch older software. The drop of DirectX 5-9 isn't impossible in the foreseeable future, but I highly doubt that so radical changes will be introduced in W11.
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nightcraw1er.488: Ah, I see. New version of windows and everything will break. Nonsense. Nothing will stop working. I will likely update my main machine. The version I got is an OEM pro injected onto the motherboard, even though I paid lots for it (which is why I will not bother with pcspecialist again). So I might just fork out a proper license/disc. Whilst I still have another win10, and a win 7 box, I rarely use them now. Windows apparently does everything I need juxtaposed to the insistence of the world at large stating nothing runs on it.
I had some compatibility issues after updating to W10 in the first months after the system was released. My USB TV tuner stopped working and I had some troubles launching some older games (these were mostly using DirectX 8 or older). These were mostly fixed by the updates. The question is whether Microsoft is planning to introduce a new version of DirectX along with the release of W11. If so, the compatibility issues will be present to some extent.
Post edited June 20, 2021 by Sarafan
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Sarafan: It's almost certain that Windows 11 will be announced by Microsoft on June 24th. There are videos and screens from the leaked version, so we can be sure that the new system is coming. What's more, sources tell that there will be a free upgrade option from Windows 7, 8.1 and 10.

Personally I'm planning to stick with Windows 10 for some time. The main reason is that I play a lot of old games and I can bet there will be compatibility issues for some time after the new system is released. While I expect DOSBox to be fully compatible even with W11, this might not be the case for games using DirectX 8 and older. Of course there's always an option to keep two operating systems installed simultaneously, for example W11 for new games and W7 for older titles. This may be the best available option once the new system is released.

Are you planning to upgrade, considering the fact that these rumors will be confirmed? W10 will be supported to year 2025 at least, so there's no need to rush.
Yes. at some point in the not too distant future from launch, but really it will depend on exactly what is changing, what the cost is etc. As such, this thread is probably a bit premature.

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Sarafan: Personally I think that sooner or later Microsoft will drop support for 32-bit applications. This will be a major and controversial change that will force users to use some kind of emulator to launch older software. The drop of DirectX 5-9 isn't impossible in the foreseeable future, but I highly doubt that so radical changes will be introduced in W11.
There are already wrappers for 16 bit programmes on Windows x64, so I have no concerns over the incredibly unlikely dropping of 32-bit support in the next couple of years (there's zero point in MS dropping WOW64 at this stage; plus historical context - WOW32 was only dropped when the OS went 64-bit)

I also have no concerns about a drop of <DX10 - we already have a number of wrappers that very effectively pass the calls through to DX10-12, so again, no reason to be concerned at all. There are already games using old versions of DX where you're better off using a wrapper as performance is much better.

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Nightcraw1er.488 is as ever correct. Obviously, updating in the first months is higher risk. so you wait for 6 months (assuming free upgrade stands) and then pull the trigger.
Post edited June 20, 2021 by pds41
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pds41: Nightcraw1er.488 is as ever correct. Obviously, updating in the first months is higher risk. so you wait for 6 months (assuming free upgrade stands) and then pull the trigger.
That's exactly what I'll probably do. I don't see any reasons to rush considering that the support for W10 will keep going. At some point I'll upgrade as well. The question is for how long the free upgrade will be possible. We have to wait for details.
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BrianSim: Nope. They can't even get W10 right after 6 years of trying (bi-polar settings app vs Control Panel, buggy updates, ugly overly-flat "wall of whitespace" UI redesigns, etc). A lot of gamers who hate W10's unstable "Feature Updates" quietly use Enterprise 2019 LTSC which is probably the least worst version of W10 and is actually supported through to 2029. So if Microsoft does something stupid like remove DirectX5-9 compatibility to "enhance" that nouveau chic supercilious "modern experience", there's always that option as a backup plan.
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Sarafan: Personally I think that sooner or later Microsoft will drop support for 32-bit applications. This will be a major and controversial change that will force users to use some kind of emulator to launch older software. The drop of DirectX 5-9 isn't impossible in the foreseeable future, but I highly doubt that so radical changes will be introduced in W11.
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nightcraw1er.488: Ah, I see. New version of windows and everything will break. Nonsense. Nothing will stop working. I will likely update my main machine. The version I got is an OEM pro injected onto the motherboard, even though I paid lots for it (which is why I will not bother with pcspecialist again). So I might just fork out a proper license/disc. Whilst I still have another win10, and a win 7 box, I rarely use them now. Windows apparently does everything I need juxtaposed to the insistence of the world at large stating nothing runs on it.
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Sarafan: I had some compatibility issues after updating to W10 in the first months after the system was released. My USB TV tuner stopped working and I had some troubles launching some older games (these were mostly using DirectX 8 or older). These were mostly fixed by the updates. The question is whether Microsoft is planning to introduce a new version of DirectX along with the release of W11. If so, the compatibility issues will be present to some extent.
I wouldn’t expect so. Dx12 hasn’t been around that long. If it was coming, I suspect they would pair it with a new range of graphic cards, for which I have not heard anything (on say a 40xx). Yes, there will be some niggles, drivers catching up and such like. If it’s old game, maybe look at some of the wrappers which are available now, may help with compatability. Biggest change I have seen is the love from 32bit to 64bit, that was a real ball ache, even now from a work point of view we are running into these issues.
How about we wait and see what this thing is about. The only thing we know for sure right now is that it is coming. If kernel is the same as 10, then there will be no reason not to upgrade (in that case 11 will be basically the same thing as 10 but with longer support time). If there are some bigger changes - then I want to see more details before making a decision.