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I heard it has gimped CPU performance, but some benchmarks might be useful.
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rojimboo: I heard it has gimped CPU performance, but some benchmarks might be useful.
https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/amd-ryzen-windows-11-patch-testing-gaming-benchmarks-L3-cache-bug


Haven't properly read through it, but I think this gives the info for AMD.
Post edited November 01, 2021 by pds41
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timppu: Something that means it shouldn't be installed on a work laptop, or otherwise all our company secrets go to Microsoft?
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teceem: You're describing a security issue, not a privacy one. Sure, there's some overlap, but not in your example. But maybe you weren't being serious...
For business use there is the Enterprise version. It should offer a zero-trust policy which means there shouldn't be any issues as with Home/Pro. Excessive telemetry, data collection and transfer, several pieces of bloatware, the inability to stop certain services - most of which aren't necessary to be executed, none of that. Depending on the system administrator there should also be no issues with privacy/security.

As far as personal data is concerned, shopping, internet banking and what have you, in Pro as well as home, a dedicated sandbox environment as many security suites offer them is advised. This doesn't necessarily preclude any security breaches by outside sources, though minimizes the chance that MS receives data containing information that's none of their business.
Post edited November 02, 2021 by Mori_Yuki
btw.... did you guys notice how easy it is to re-arrange windows with hovering over the full screen square icon that appears when working in a window ??? IT IS SO! Cute!!


edit: it works to btw with hovering over the half screen icon when working full screen
Post edited November 07, 2021 by Zimerius
As with upgrading 7 to 10, I'll upgrade 10 to 11 only when I have to. That might be when I'm replacing my computers (desktop and laptop) anyway, so maybe that's okay. Maybe they'll have sorted most bugbears by that time without me having to pay attention to the whole thing.
Window 10 is better than window 11 because win 11 is not professionally launched.
Post edited November 10, 2021 by CBDBoxMakers
Someone at work updated their W10 laptop to W11 and all hell broke loose, starting with the infamous bug of icons disappearing from the taskbar (including the clock and the start button). So when you open a program, there's no icon and if you minimize... not way of knowing if the program is even running. Please remember it's someone with no real knowledge of computers having this issue. We had to stay until 11:30pm to rolback to W10.

So yeah... some real world experience with W11, and not happy.
I'm running it for a couple of weeks now, did not experience any problems with games but that was to be expected. After all we have had several different Windows 10 versions and never had any problems. Windows 11 uses the same technical core.
The support for HDR and GSync works better than it did in Windows 10.

The new settings are MUCH better than the Windows 10 ones (honestly: how could they have become any worse?). I would just like to be able to position icons freely in the start menu, rather then having them in a flowlayout. And the dark mode is too dark. The windows explorer is not dark gray as it used to be, but black. It's harder to read this way.

Now that programmers are learning how to put commands in the new context menu, that one becomes quite usable too.
But I would like to have a way to remove some commands.
Post edited November 10, 2021 by neumi5694
Great info here, thanks!

I upgraded and so far I managed to test just two games (I'm absorbed into Linux due to work crunch, and when I have some spare time I'm playing Planescape: Torment EE also in Linux).

Worked flawlessly, no problem: Torchlight.

Had problems with The Talos Principle.

Initially I installed the Talos Principle in Win10 and experienced stuttering. These got fixed once I capped framerate at 30 fps.

After upgrading into Windows 11 the stuttering came back, even with framerate capped to 30 fps.
(btw, if anyone knows a workaround I'd be grateful).

Will update as I play more games, but I expect it won't be that soon.
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thegreyshadow: Great info here, thanks!

I upgraded and so far I managed to test just two games (I'm absorbed into Linux due to work crunch, and when I have some spare time I'm playing Planescape: Torment EE also in Linux).

Worked flawlessly, no problem: Torchlight.

Had problems with The Talos Principle.

Initially I installed the Talos Principle in Win10 and experienced stuttering. These got fixed once I capped framerate at 30 fps.

After upgrading into Windows 11 the stuttering came back, even with framerate capped to 30 fps.
(btw, if anyone knows a workaround I'd be grateful).

Will update as I play more games, but I expect it won't be that soon.
There are three things i would suggest you should try. Lower your mouse polling rate, in case the value is set to 1000hz or above. Depending your model you can set it to 900, 800 or 500hz. I wouldn't necessarily try anything below 500hz as this can also cause unwanted behavior...

Disable all overlays in: Galaxy (in case you use it), ANSEL, GameDVR, XBOX gaming overlay.

Activate V-Sync.

If it's a graphics card driver issue, maybe downloading and using the revision you used in Windows 10 can help solve this issue.

Edit: If you got an NVIDA GPU, switch to Display and click Adjust Desktop Size and Position. Set perform scaling to Display if it is set to GPU or vice versa. It might help to also activate Override the scaling mode set by games and programs to see whether this elminiates the stuttering.
Post edited November 12, 2021 by Mori_Yuki
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thegreyshadow: Great info here, thanks!

I upgraded and so far I managed to test just two games (I'm absorbed into Linux due to work crunch, and when I have some spare time I'm playing Planescape: Torment EE also in Linux).

Worked flawlessly, no problem: Torchlight.

Had problems with The Talos Principle.

Initially I installed the Talos Principle in Win10 and experienced stuttering. These got fixed once I capped framerate at 30 fps.

After upgrading into Windows 11 the stuttering came back, even with framerate capped to 30 fps.
(btw, if anyone knows a workaround I'd be grateful).

Will update as I play more games, but I expect it won't be that soon.
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Mori_Yuki: There are three things i would suggest you should try. Lower your mouse polling rate, in case the value is set to 1000hz or above. Depending your model you can set it to 900, 800 or 500hz. I wouldn't necessarily try anything below 500hz as this can also cause unwanted behavior...

Disable all overlays in: Galaxy (in case you use it), ANSEL, GameDVR, XBOX gaming overlay.

Activate V-Sync.

If it's a graphics card driver issue, maybe downloading and using the revision you used in Windows 10 can help solve this issue.

Edit: If you got an NVIDA GPU, switch to Display and click Adjust Desktop Size and Position. Set perform scaling to Display if it is set to GPU or vice versa. It might help to also activate Override the scaling mode set by games and programs to see whether this elminiates the stuttering.
Thanks, these are great tips. However, my GPU is just an Intel UHD 620 onboard. Will trye some of your suggestions, though.
This may sound like a dumb or newbie question but can anyone clarify how the amount of hard drive space used works in the update process? In other words, it seems Windows 11 requires a certain amount of free space, but what happens to 10? Does it "disappear" such that 11 can use the space it was occupying? What happens if there is not enough space but it wants to automatically update to 11?
I just want to post an update re: The Talos Principle on Win 11.

Yesterday Windows pushed an OS update. The stuttering went away with no changes to the game on my part.
Now it works as advertised again.
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rjbuffchix: This may sound like a dumb or newbie question but can anyone clarify how the amount of hard drive space used works in the update process? In other words, it seems Windows 11 requires a certain amount of free space, but what happens to 10? Does it "disappear" such that 11 can use the space it was occupying? What happens if there is not enough space but it wants to automatically update to 11?
Speculating as I didn't bother to look when mine upgraded. I'd expect it to be functionally the same as a feature update for Windows 10 - I believe these downloaded what was needed and then cleaned up after themselves. If you don't have enough space free to download the update, it won't update.
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thegreyshadow: I just want to post an update re: The Talos Principle on Win 11.

Yesterday Windows pushed an OS update. The stuttering went away with no changes to the game on my part.
Now it works as advertised again.
wish linux would be as good